Model-50-1926 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 I already have a 1927 Chrysler that is all original and runs great, so I think this on is going to be a street rod. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28anut Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 So your gonna rod it so it will be worth $0 dollars when your finished because it's not the body style or year other rodders are looking for? Or are you saying your just gonna upgrade the machanicals? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Bring it back to its former glory. The car deserves it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 That is not good street rod material. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike "Hubbie" Stearns Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 It’s way too nice to hot rod. Mike 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model-50-1926 Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 28anut, that is why I would like to rod it. It is different it’s not the same as what everyone else has. I am doing this build for the enjoyment not to make money, if that’s even possible lol. You said it’s the wrong year, what is your best guess on the year? alsancle, why is it not good street rod material? all advice is helpful. Thanks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelfish Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 You may find that this is a site that likes original cars. That's not to say that you won't find people willing to help, but you will also find people, like me, who cannot understand destroying a very nice original car. The HAMB might be more helpful. But turning a nice old car into a street rod is the same as graffiting a Charlie Russell painting. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 42 minutes ago, Angelfish said: You may find that this is a site that likes original cars. That's not to say that you won't find people willing to help, but you will also find people, like me, who cannot understand destroying a very nice original car. The HAMB might be more helpful. But turning a nice old car into a street rod is the same as graffiting a Charlie Russell painting. As soon as you use the words “street rod” on the hamb, you will be immediately banned. So believe it or not, this is more welcoming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Mead Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Really ? Huh….. You bought it, you build it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) 13 hours ago, Model-50-1926 said: 28anut, that is why I would like to rod it. It is different it’s not the same as what everyone else has. I am doing this build for the enjoyment not to make money, if that’s even possible lol. You said it’s the wrong year, what is your best guess on the year? alsancle, why is it not good street rod material? all advice is helpful. Thanks "Street Rod" vs "Hot Rod". The latter is typically a 3 or 5 window coupe or a roadster. A traditional hot rod follows certain rules. If you read the HAMB long enough you will get the idea. Those are cool. Street Rod can be any car to start with and follow no rules. Think crate engine and air conditioning. You can't discuss these on the HAMB. The reason I think this is a poor car to create either out of is the hours and money invested far out weigh having a car in hand that not appropriate. Better to sell this to someone else and start with a better basis. As far as not making money, my guess is you will lose 75% of all the money invested in making this any kind of rod. Better to get that number closer to 25%. Zero is very hard to do. Edited February 10 by alsancle (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 The car rebuilt in any fashion will be a loosing proposition. Restored original or in a "Street Rod" configuration will not make it a worthy project. It looks like it was a real good original and someone has already given it a haircut for parts to build a roadster or touring car. Look at whats missing ... all parts that could be substituted to a more desirable model. JUST MY OPINION..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Don Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Hello, if it is the body that was your first attraction, you can make molds of it, then lay-ups and use those to create the body of your dreams! Modifying the "new" to fit whatever chassis you have or can buy. The chassis and engine to this original won't make for much in the way of a "Hot" rod. Use what you've got, redress it and then do a form of "Catch and Release"! Maybe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsmoke Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 A "restomod" seems the best way to go. These cars in original factory specs are not much in demand, a complete decent running one hard to sell at $12k-$15K. And at that, they can only be used for occasional short trips and shows. however, if the out ward appearance can be fully retained and modern power train etc installed, you get a good runner for about the same price, and it can be maintained by most mechanics with off the shelf parts. A friend is doing such with a previously disheveled '31 Chrysler, will be able to drive it anywhere, including long trips. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 On 2/9/2024 at 5:41 PM, Model-50-1926 said: 28anut, that is why I would like to rod it. It is different it’s not the same as what everyone else has. I am doing this build for the enjoyment not to make money, if that’s even possible lol. You said it’s the wrong year, what is your best guess on the year? alsancle, why is it not good street rod material? all advice is helpful. Thanks I'll bet NONE of the above offer to buy that car so THEY can give it what it "deserves". Carry on! Ben 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 On 2/9/2024 at 3:41 PM, Model-50-1926 said: 28anut, that is why I would like to rod it. It is different it’s not the same as what everyone else has. I am doing this build for the enjoyment not to make money, if that’s even possible lol. You said it’s the wrong year, what is your best guess on the year? alsancle, why is it not good street rod material? all advice is helpful. Thanks The only thing I can think of as to why it would not make a good street rod is the wood body structure beneath the metal. Probably won't hold up to a lot of torque. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce W Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 You might want to make sure the car wasn't stolen and stripped for parts. Its condition looks suspicious. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock 70 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 I say do whatever vision you see and like. If money isn’t the object then you should build the car however you like, you’re still saving it from the crusher. At the end of the day it’s in your garage and no one else’s. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bennett Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 OK…….if you were a merchant, advertising your goods, but once you attracted customers interested in your product, you absconded without further comment. That is called fraud or, in cyber language “phishing”. The sole purpose I belong to these forums, I.e…..pay dues and waste time reading posts like yours, is to learn what fellow old car enthusiasts are doing and track along their progress. I compare myself to a person who is pursuing a degree in Archeology, yet is unable to explore the tomb of King Tut or make a trip to document Machu Picchu, or even watch a complete series of Lost Cities, on NATGEO, and features a archeologist named Albert Lin. So, in those times when I’m not actually exploring the innards of one of my antique machines, I follow the endeavors of others who shares my addiction on these antique car forums. And then comes along a guy who visits the swimming pool, buys a stylish bathing suit, gets some swim goggles and a set of rhongs, goes to the pool, sticks his big toe in the water, and tries to convince others he is a Olympic class swimmer. Of course the mod is, at this very minute, considering deleting this post and banning me from the forum……and this is probably a decision made by a person of words, but lacks the experience in action to appreciate the wealth of knowledge the million or so years the members of this forum can share, if it doesn’t become a place where little boys have discovered a zipper in their knee length nickers, and can’t help but wonder what happens if it is pulled. A good excuse for leaving posts like this unfinished is critical…..meaning “terminal” illness or death. Jack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bennett Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 On 2/9/2024 at 3:41 PM, Model-50-1926 said: 28anut, that is why I would like to rod it. It is different it’s not the same as what everyone else has. I am doing this build for the enjoyment not to make money, if that’s even possible lol. You said it’s the wrong year, what is your best guess on the year? alsancle, why is it not good street rod material? all advice is helpful. Thanks My suggestion is that you give this car body to someone who can appreciate its antique technology and the artistry of its design, and then go to a reputable builder, who professionally designs and builds Rat Rods…..Street Rods…..or whatever they are called in the circles which can’t accept that something less than 400 horsepower and needs that to propel the chrome, gizmos and gimmicks at a snails pace, and pay them a bit of money it seems like you are ready to spend, and buy a real Rat or Street rod. Or, stop by my house and take a ride in a stock 1927 Willys Knight, and see the Washington state coastal roads, the marvelous coastline and the awesome bridges in a way you will never see them through the bastardized windshield of a “T bucket” rat rod. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bennett Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 On 2/9/2024 at 11:39 AM, Andy J said: Bring it back to its former glory. The car deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model-50-1926 Posted June 12 Author Share Posted June 12 OMG jack, what a load of verbal diarrhea 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kar3516 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 On 2/9/2024 at 5:41 PM, Model-50-1926 said: 28anut, that is why I would like to rod it. It is different it’s not the same as what everyone else has. I am doing this build for the enjoyment not to make money, if that’s even possible lol. You said it’s the wrong year, what is your best guess on the year? alsancle, why is it not good street rod material? all advice is helpful. Thanks My two cents is as follows: yes it’s an original car in relatively good shape but is missing all the hard to find parts for a restoration. The hobby is full of 1925 to 1930 boxy four door sedans that no one will ever restore because it’s so easy and cheap to buy similar complete cars that are already restored and in decent running condition. There will be more and more of these cars coming to market without buyers because it’s too expensive to restore them. I say do what you want with it; however, I agree that no matter what you decide the economics will be upside down. It’s not whether you will lose money but how much will be lost. Maybe one of the naysayers here will make a cash offer you can’t refuse but I doubt it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 9 hours ago, kar3516 said: My two cents is as follows: yes it’s an original car in relatively good shape but is missing all the hard to find parts for a restoration. The hobby is full of 1925 to 1930 boxy four door sedans that no one will ever restore because it’s so easy and cheap to buy similar complete cars that are already restored and in decent running condition. There will be more and more of these cars coming to market without buyers because it’s too expensive to restore them. I say do what you want with it; however, I agree that no matter what you decide the economics will be upside down. It’s not whether you will lose money but how much will be lost. Maybe one of the naysayers here will make a cash offer you can’t refuse but I doubt it. Agree!! Most "HOBBIES " cost money. What fisherman ever sold his gear [ boat? ] for more than he paid? Build the rascal YOUR way. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1lark Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Wow, some of y'all are being really hard on this guy. After the reception he got from some of you, when he said he might 'street rod' it, is it any wonder he hasn't posted on this thread any more? BTW, I looked and he visited the AACA forum 10 hours ago, so he's still active, just not on this thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 14 minutes ago, r1lark said: Wow, some of y'all are being really hard on this guy. After the reception he got from some of you, when he said he might 'street rod' it, is it any wonder he hasn't posted on this thread any more? BTW, I looked and he visited the AACA forum 10 hours ago, so he's still active, just not on this thread. The problem is we are all heavily biased just based on being members of this forum. I like hot rods, mostly despise street rods, but I also know what is good starting material for those types of projects. This is not one of them. So in this instance, our first instincts are probably also correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Its your car, do what you want with it. As a street rod it will def be unique. Is it worth a full restoration, most likely not, so as was mentioned at least its getting back on the road. When I was a kid I loved street rods and hoped to have one someday. That sparked a love of old cars. Today I like cars that are original, be it a 1910 model or a 1960's muscle car. Everyone has their own tastes in auto's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bennett Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 On 6/12/2024 at 4:56 PM, Model-50-1926 said: OMG jack, what a load of verbal diarrhea Wow! What with the ridiculous amount of money, and resources, spent just to escort us old, Alzheimer’s and dementia impaired guys to a hospice, thanks for the compliment. Isn’t it magnanimous to know that people like me will still be spewing our verbal diarrhea for years to come. And equally laudable is cujos to the brains which developed the innate ability of those who are irritated by verbal diarrhea to simply push a toggle on their internet device to instantly change what they are being bothered by. Maybe, a few more of our flat screen, movie streaming, non-verbal and socially impaired youth needs a tad of the same laxative to rejoin the functional members of a real civilization. Jack 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bennett Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 5 hours ago, Sidemount33 said: Unless you really know the person sending an email, never presume that someone will just "get" your meaning or intent. Everyone filters and absorbs information differently, and even someone who is trying to be "kindly, but direct" can come across as stupidly judgemental, unnecessarily severe, or just weird. Then, add in the "passion" element with this hobby and that fuels things up even more. From what I've read in some of the forum content, there are a lot of 13 year-olds who are disguised as adults, working through their adolescent self-esteem issues: seemingly fine, then one comment makes them go sideways and you wonder "Where did this reaction come from?" - and in case anyone is ready to take offence at this post: No, I am not talking about anyone above who has posted on this thread. However, there are a few other forum regulars who seemingly fit this bill. Very few adolescents can pop a cool thousand bucks for a device capable of accessing anything posted on the internet. But their parents can, do, and are ultimately responsible for monitoring how this device is used. That said, I will leave it to the reader to determine the level of responsibility the writer has, as compared to the level of responsibility the parent has regarding what should, and should not be allowed as media posted on a internet web site. To my knowledge, there are paid mediators who realize that there are parents who endorse some really weird things to be taught in schools under the first amendment of the Constitution. And, hopefully, among their qualifications to act as the mediator of a antique car collectors forum is the ability to sort the dung out for disposal and allow the nutritious part of sharing our hobby to be posted. As I rose in rank, and responsibilities increased, while in the Army, it became apparent that; I could please some of the people all of the time. I could please all the people some of the time. But it was impossible to please all the people all the time. So, in fairness, I adopted the rule which states that “It is my responsibility to say it…….but it is not my responsibility to say it in a manner everyone understands”. Implied or factual, that does place a certain level of responsibility of the recipient of any thing posted on these forums either to accept it as it is……change their aptitude and attitude to accept it as it was meant…..or move on to a forum which discusses sewing or horticulture. Jack 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidemount33 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Jack, you've just underscored my message - I wasn't talking about actual 13 year olds: I was talking about some of the 50+ year olds who act like wounded teenagers on here. Clearly, this forum requires a "sarcasm" button, or I need to stop being so subtle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 So what did the OP ever do with this car? The street rod guys, wherever they hang out, would be best to seek advice from if that is your direction. Not a criticism but definately not traditional hot rod material. Non-Fords are an uphill battle in that camp today just like in 48 or 55. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 On 2/8/2024 at 4:48 PM, Model-50-1926 said: I already have a 1927 Chrysler that is all original and runs great, so I think this on is going to be a street rod. I've always been a purist first and foremost, but based on your first sentence I can understand why you would want to have "one of each" (original and rod). I recall your first intro to the forums when you asked about the photo of your grandfather. Clearly you showed an appreciation for the history of these vehicles and have an attachment to the Dodge and Chrysler brands (I assume due to the ties you have to the photo of your grandfather below). I for one can look beyond the fact that you'd like to rod the 2nd Chrysler, but as others have pointed out, make sure you know how it will react with the wood frame structure for your own safety. I would encourage you to use another forum like Hamb or Jalopy Journal for the rodding discussions. Honestly, most of us have a natural instinct to cringe when we hear of such things, but it's only because we respect the history so much that we won't allow ourselves to go off course. It is your car so do what you want, but again consider another forum because you won't get much help here for those reasons mentioned. Good luck and thanks again for sharing the photo of your grandfather and the Dodge he drove. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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