alsancle Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Somebody smarter than me clear this up. Did they just ruin a great car? Why would they do that? https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/26887/lot/11 1965 Chrysler Imperial LeBaron Limousine Coachwork by Gia Chassis no. Y353103693 6.1 Liter DOHC 16-Valve V-8 Engine Electronic Port Fuel Injection 425bhp at 6,200rpm 5-Speed Automatic Transaxle 4-Wheel Independent Suspension 4-Wheel Disc Brakes *Last year of the Ghia Limousines, One of only ten built *Comprehensive 5 year restoration by Chip Foose and Metalcrafters *Single family owner since 1967 *Was known to be the most expensive limousine of its time THE IMPERIAL CROWN Although Chrysler Corporation introduced a prestige model, the Imperial, in 1926, its third year of production, it was nearly three decades before it became a marquee in its own right. What had long been the most expensive Chrysler model became, for model year 1955, simply "Imperial," and offered three body styles in two series. This separate branding was a direct challenge to Lincoln and Cadillac. For the next two years, Imperial was largely a long-wheelbase Chrysler with a bolder grille, the latter appropriated for Chrysler's performance model, the 300. In 1957, however, Imperial was reinvented with a new personality, its gun-sight taillights incorporated into growing tailfins and curved side glass foretelling an industry trend. This year also marked the appearance of a faux spare tire embellishment on the decklid, a device first seen on the Exner-designed and Ghia-built concept cars of 1952-53. With the announcement of Imperial contracting Ghia to build their ultra luxurious limousines, these were destined to become some of the most expensive limousines of their era. Utilizing only the finest woods and leather for these vehicles, production numbers were kept low giving these Imperials the highest in exclusivity. From 1957 to 1965, a total of approximately 132 Ghia built limousines were completed, with only 10 being completed in the last year of 1965. THE MOTORCAR OFFERED The limousine offered here is the perfect balance of classic luxury and modern performance. Being one of the most expensive limousines of its time, this 1965 Imperial LeBaron limousine was built in Detroit, Michigan and completed in Turin, Italy by famed Italian coachbuilders Carozzeria Ghia. Manufactured as one of just ten built in the final year of production clearly makes this one rare example. This vehicle started life as a luxury factory built limousine meant to be the pinnacle of affluence in America. It is believed that this very car was custom made for American entertainer Bob Hope, in which Chrysler would contract the use of this car for Mr. Hope and his television show, which Chrysler sponsored at the time. As soon as Bob Hope switched sponsors for his television show, Chrysler took the car back and brought it to a California Chrysler dealership in Pasadena. The current owner and consignor of this Imperial saw the car at the Pasadena dealership and inquired to purchase it. The dealership told him that it wasn't available because legendary actress, Joan Crawford had purchased the car. Several months later, he sees the car back at the same dealership and was able to finalize the purchase, becoming the first registered owner in the fall of 1967 when the car had approximately 11,000 miles on the odometer. Fast forward to approximately 40 years later, this Ghia limo was in the family storage when a conversation was struck with legendary automotive icon Chip Foose and well known fabrication experts from Gaffoglio Family Metalcrafters in Orange County, CA. This conversation resulted in a fantastic plan to restore this beautiful limousine, but with a modern twist. Not wanting to take away from the iconic looks and classic Ghia design from the car, the owner of the car along with Mr. Foose and Metalcrafters devised a detailed plan to give the car a restomod type of build, but keeping the cars classic good looks in mind. Definitely not an easy project, but with a talented team of Chip Foose and Metalcrafters handling the fabrication and design, the finished goal was definitely achievable. After 5 years, and well over $300,000 in invoices later, the restoration of the Ghia limousine was completed. This talented team took a modern Chrysler 300C SRT8 donor car, and transferred the complete drivetrain, wiring, suspension and other creature comforts, in which it was adapted to fit the Imperial limousine in a factory like fit and finish. This documented restoration was done in such high standard, the quality of work can easily be appreciated down to the many details. With new modern Hemi V8 power, and suspension, the car drives like new with modern day performance and reliability. With five years of work, the level of fabrication and expertise invested in this Imperial makes for a wonderful restoration and useable everyday driver. From acid dipping the body to remove the hundreds of pounds of lead used to initially manufacture the car to custom fitting the new coilover suspension and Brembo brake systems, the details on this build were spectacular. Custom cut Foose billet wheels, and a Kenwood custom stereo system round out just a few of the extra details featured on this fantastic limousine. With the whole restoration documented with photos and set in an included file, this project was highly organized and well thought out. Included with the car is a history file documenting the restoration, additional paperwork, invoices, manuals, a Chip Foose original framed drawing of the project, as well as miscellaneous paperwork and signage accompanying the build. A custom-built metal rolling cart containing the original engine, transmission and radiator are also included with the sale ensuring the factory delivered powertrain stays with the vehicle ensuring the vehicle's originality. Having such a great story and assembled by some of the best names in the industry, this Ghia built Imperial limousine would be such a wonderful addition to any prominent collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Yes they did. 🤔🙄 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Pointless, same as most any of that "upgrade" malarkey. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Beer Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 so they spent 300K to make a car that basically will now become a statue some place once any "coolness" wears off. I doubt even Jay Leno would touch it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 The thing with “upgrading” is the upgrades get old and then you really have a hard to maintain mongrel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gossp Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 What’s really awful is that the original car was a perfectly good road car with a bulletproof drivetrain. I wouldn’t do it, but I at least understand when someone does this to a difficult or expensive to maintain vehicle, provided it isn’t overly rare in need of preservation. My buddies Chevy powered Wraith is a lot more pleasant to drive than it was pre conversion, and a hot rod shop did it for a fraction of the cost of rebuilding a Rolls engine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billorn Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Is a moden hemi engine a DOHC? I thought they used pushrods????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthcranbrook Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 I read far enough into the ad to see the words “Chip Foose”. That answered it for me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32tatra Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 A case of somebody with more money then brains. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 The car looks pretty good, but there they go again, writing all about the history of the company and the Imperial model. What Chrysler did in 1926 has little bearing on this modified car for sale. And when paragraphs use the word "icon" and "legendary" and "motorcar" and "prominent," we can tell immediately that their words have a lot of hyperbole. It's just a car-- longer than most, but just a car. I would have enjoyed it as it was originally made. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, John_S_in_Penna said: The car looks pretty good, but there they go again, writing all about the history of the company and the Imperial model. Trying to white wash the Spruce Goose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 The spend 300k ruining a perfectly good 30k dollar used car. Their ROI- -250k? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 16 minutes ago, edinmass said: The spend 300k ruining a perfectly good 30k dollar used car. Their ROI- -250k? The before pictures would be interesting. It might be worth about the same amount before they touched it as after. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Jake Moran Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Ruined. But there are plenty of old cars. Do what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG57Roadmaster Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 But, but - the sale includes a Chip Foose original framed drawing of the project! And who, by the way, is Gia? You'd think Bonhams would know better. What a hot mess. TG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, TG57Roadmaster said: But, but - the sale includes a Chip Foose original framed drawing of the project! And who, by the way, is Gia? You'd think Bonhams would know better. What a hot mess. TG Gia is the lead lady in “Our Man Flint”. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Huston Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, TG57Roadmaster said: But, but - the sale includes a Chip Foose original framed drawing of the project! And who, by the way, is Gia? You'd think Bonhams would know better. What a hot mess. TG Prior to this post I was happily ignorant regarding not knowing anything about Chip Foose. Unfortunately, I can’t go back. Edited July 25, 2021 by Mark Huston (see edit history) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 31 minutes ago, Mark Huston said: Unfortunately, I can’t go back. Couldn't have worded it any better myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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