bob duffer Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Must be a powerful engine to pull all that through the mud. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) Cut down 1928 Buick Master series. 77 HP with lots of torque! 178 lbs. Coupled to a tractor axle it can do the job. Edited February 24, 2021 by dibarlaw Added content (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Carl Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Doing this job with the tire size and “mud paddles”, is less dependent on engine output than it is on reduction gearing through a compound low. - Carl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomobile Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Someone sold a kit to convert model T's to a farm tractor. My Dad said they were pretty common at one point like during the depression. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 What do you suppose that thing is behind the front wheel of the trailer? Brakes maybe? Looks like it would drag in the mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 40 minutes ago, JACK M said: What do you suppose that thing is behind the front wheel of the trailer? Brakes maybe? Looks like it would drag in the mud. The trailer's parking brake, for when it's parked solo. I don't see a way it can be actuated from the prime mover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHuDWah Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 55 minutes ago, JACK M said: What do you suppose that thing is behind the front wheel of the trailer? Brakes maybe? Looks like it would drag in the mud. I don't think it's attached to the trailer. Looks like something sticking up beside the trail, part of a fence post, boundary marker, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdh7475 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 The 1910 Enger 40 touring car that I am in the middle of restoring was turned into a grain grinder for a small cattle operation in Aurelia Iowa by the original owners of the car. I would have to think that a 20 year old car at the beginning of the depression was fair game for anything to happen to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHuDWah Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Wonder when the picture was taken? A lot of those conversions got pretty beat up as cars before they were made into tractors. What's left of the Buick still looks shiny and undamaged as if it wasn't very old when converted. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I suspect, from how nice the front looks, that the car was only a couple years old at most and wrecked. Either a rollover or nasty rear collision (train?) left a good front half and needing rear end and wheels adapted along with some general creativity. Form-a-tractor kits had been sold since the early 1910s for a wide variety of automobile conversions. Model T Fords of course were the most often used cars. Some of those kits were designed to convert back and forth in a matter of minutes (more likely a hour or two?) so the car could be used to plow the South twenty and then converted back and driven into town. One rather expensive rig actually did take only a couple minutes to switch back and forth. It was a trailer platform with rear wheel rollers and pulleys that transferred power to the lower geared tractor steel wheels. The entire car was driven on and into place, locked/chained down, and used as a tractor. Then when the car was needed, back the tractor against a small levee or berm (ramp?), a simple unchain the car, and drive the mostly unaltered car off and head to town. Notice the farmer below working steering and controls outside the car! Some of the rigs for farmers were quite amazing! What some of the do-it-themselves crowd did was even more incredible! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Very interesting, I am sure there were plenty of failed ideas as well, The third photo down has all the potential for disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 It probably has 2 transmissions in line giving it an extremely low gear...when I was in HS the best local junk yard, Bills Auto Parts, had a Franklin chassis, around 1928-30, with 2 transmissions and a snow plow. I can't I saw it working but it hadn't been jot of service long judging by its condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studemax Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I'd love to see this vehicle in the flesh at an auto show today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdh7475 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Great pictures! I dont think any of those conversions would quite pass safety standards today! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_P Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 On the Buick in the original picture, it looks to me like the hubs on the rear axle are gear reduction. Neat looking vehicle for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) Any idea of the general location of where the Buick photo was taken? Edited February 25, 2021 by John348 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erichill Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Luxury Doodlebug for the uppity farmers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdh7475 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 The ultimate uppitty farmer transporation was the Minneapolis Moline UDLX - the automobile/farm tractor. Very rare and very valuable today. In the depression it sounded like a good idea to supply both in one vehicle, but farmers thought it too uppitty and very few were sold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Saxton Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Remote control of the T from the seat of the moldboard plough looks to be an innovative entry for the Darwin Awards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Ivan Saxton said: Remote control of the T from the seat of the moldboard plough looks to be an innovative entry for the Darwin Awards. I was trying to figure out how he started it put it in gear and got to the rear seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgansdad Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 The man in the third picture appears to be wearing a suit? Most today wouldn't be able to turn the ground over much less own a suit ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 In those days, most farmers, as with most workers in cities, did wear suits and ties almost every day. Most men would regularly buy a new suit, how often would depend upon their station in life, and how badly their old suits would wear out from the harsh working conditions. New suits would be Sunday/go-to-meetin' clothes. Suits not yet much worn would become dinner or 'round the house clothes. As they began to show wear, they would be used for going to work if the work was a bit harsh on clothes. Of course bankers and many other businessmen would have many more new suits, and usually donate anything showing any wear at all to some charity. Men wearing clothes better suited to harsh environments were usually outside the cities and local farming communities. Levi Straus invented denim jeans because he bought a bunch of denim material to make and sell tents to the gold miners in the early days of California's gold rush (so the legend says?). When he found most of the miners had tents already, he looked for another use for the material. Most of the miners were still wearing basically old suits, and they weren't holding up very well. So he made jean slacks out of the denim, and the miners loved them. Although Levi Straus is considered one of the business world's best success stories, even a half century later, denim jeans still were not terribly common outside certain harsh working conditions. Farmers and factory workers still mostly wore their old suits. I have looked very closely at thousands of era photographs, and I rarely see identifiable denim jeans in them. Denim jeans did not start to become really common until the depression years in the 1930s. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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