4 Cylinder Air Cooled ID Please

[DHDorholt]

Anyone have any idea the make of this little gem. 

[1937hd45]

CHEVROLET COPPER COOLED. Bob

[padgett]

1923 ?

Edited May 16, 2016 by padgett (see edit history)

[DHDorholt]

 

This is the 1923 chevrolet 

[Rusty_OToole]

I'm no expert but it looks like  a Franklin 4 cyl from the twenties.

[CarlLaFong]

i know little about Franklins, but every one that I've ever seen had individual cylinders bolted to a crankcase. Also, this engine seems awfully late to be a Franklin. Weren't they all 6 or 12 cylinders by the time that style of air shrouding came into being?

[olympic]

Carl, you're correct about the Franklin engines.  The "top blower" engines appear with the series 10B in mid 1922. The 'top blowers" continue through 1929. The side-draft engines appear in 1930.  All of these were 6 cylinder with the exception of the V12s which appear in 1932. Dave

[nzcarnerd]

How big is it?  - length of block to guess bore size etc?  Any casting marks? Or a serial number?  I see an id plate on the starter, and casting marks on the gearbox. Side valve or overhead?

[Spinneyhill]

Dyke's 18th Ed. 1930 has a drawing a bit like that and says was formerly used years ago on a prominent make of car. Later it talks of the Franklin 6 cyl. and says another make of air cooled car is a Holmes.

 

Note exposed valve gear = just pre- or during WWI? Electric starter too.

[Larry Schramm]

I don't believe that it is a Chevrolet copper cooled.

 

Here are some Chevrolet images.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=chevrolet+copper+cooled+engine&biw=1280&bih=623&tbm=isch&imgil=kqzth9MRhfkowM%253A%253BWMSUJdseiQ-f8M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.auto-rx.com%25252Fchevrolet-series-c-copper-cooled%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=kqzth9MRhfkowM%253A%252CWMSUJdseiQ-f8M%252C_&usg=__W1SFQ7jDYIjfQscv7LmyA7b2HYY%3D&ved=0ahUKEwjBup2glt7MAhUE4oMKHRlIAaQQyjcINg&ei=XoQ5V8GTEITEjwSZkIWgCg#imgrc

[DHDorholt]

Someone I know found it and the guy who as it says it's Franklin, I know is not Franklin.

He can't find any make on it. It does have a Autolite dist and starter. Warner transmission.

I hope to see the engine for my self within a month.

[Vila]

I noticed it has three priming cups visible on the top of the intake manifold.  How late were they still being used?

 

Are there any numbers on the starter tag?

[capngrog]

DHDorholt;

 

When it comes to weird/unusual engines, the Florida Flywheelers may be able to help.  The link to their website:  http://www.floridaflywheelers.org/

 

I see that you're in Minnesota, but the Florida Flywheelers membership include folks from all over the country, and I'll bet that a few of them reside in your neck of the woods.  There are also other antique engine clubs that may be able to help.

 

Good luck,

Grog

[Layden B]

Make and model of distributor, starter and generator may help.

[32plywood]

Edited May 16, 2016 by 32plywood
looks close but it is a six not a four (see edit history)

[capngrog]

5 hours ago, 32plywood said:

 

That's not it ... in my opinion.  The cooling shroud on the O.P.'s engine is different, and his engine is a 4 cylinder.  The engine shown in your post appears to be a 6 cylinder.  Also, the O.P.'s engine has its spark plugs on the left side etc., etc.  I've looked all over the internet and have not been able to find something that appears to be the O.P.'s engine; however, the Fox engine shown in your post looks pretty close ... just "no cigar".

 

That Fox air-cooled engine shown in your post is interesting looking.  I wonder when they were built and what sort of equipment they powered.

 

Cheers,

Grog

[Bleach]

Here's some info about the Fox: http://www.american-automobiles.com/Fox.html

 

To me the OP's engine looks like it could be from a farm tractor except the transmission. There were a few manufacturers that used air cooled engines.

[Bud Tierney]

Doesn't look like the Cameron illus I found, but didn't search extensively and don't know how much they varied over the years, if at all...

[SD Franklin Service Statio]

Not Franklin, the fan was moved to the front on the 1922 10a Franklin