Laughing Coyote Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) Found this nice little project. Ran when parked.https://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/4955647614.html Edited April 7, 2015 by West Peterson (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthcranbrook Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 A Giant Erector set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I don't think it even ran when parked....... :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Certainly more than a weekend project ! Wow ! Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Walling Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 My nephew is 16, would that be a good starter car for him to learn on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 My nephew is 16, would that be a good starter car for him to learn on?[/quoteIn my opinion, no, the work is so extensive and the money required is so significant I would discourage this project for a first timer. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel88 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Some assembly required! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Great opportunity for someone who really knows Metz' inside and out. I might have advertised it as "partially restored, most disassembly work already completed".I once served as an expert witness for a resto shop in a jury trial. The shop had disassembled a customer's car, done some restoration work on parts of it and then gone out of business. I tried to convince the jury that in its disassembled state the plaintiff's car was closer to being restored, and therefore more valuable, than it was before it was taken apart. The jury didn't buy it of course. I wouldn't have testified at all in the shop's defense but at that time a large percentage of my income came thru that shop in the form of sub contract work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahti35 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Calling Barry Wolk, Barry Wolk to the page phone please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Simply piece it together until it looks like a running car. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Great opportunity for someone who really knows Metz' inside and out. I might have advertised it as "partially restored, most disassembly work already completed".I once served as an expert witness for a resto shop in a jury trial. The shop had disassembled a customer's car, done some restoration work on parts of it and then gone out of business. I tried to convince the jury that in its disassembled state the plaintiff's car was closer to being restored, and therefore more valuable, than it was before it was taken apart. The jury didn't buy it of course. I wouldn't have testified at all in the shop's defense but at that time a large percentage of my income came thru that shop in the form of sub contract work.Funny, I see for sale ads all the time that make the same argument. Along with the ones that think scrapping the rare original engine, suspension etc and replacing them with Chev pickup parts you can pick up in any junkyard is an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) If that were a 1908 Locomobile I'd be all over it. Virtually all cars of that vintage are very simple machines and any reasonably clever mechanic ought to be able to figure out how it goes together. Its the fact that in its current state its impossible to tell what might be missing, and that in any condition the Metz will never be a particularly valuable car, that is a serious drawback. I'm well into a similar project right now. It isn't for everyone and certainly not for those whose goal is to "turn heads" at the local cruise night. I'll probably be on it for another 5 years or more, but to someone with real skills, a limited budget and an appreciation for how machines work it could be a worthwhile undertaking. Edited April 8, 2015 by JV Puleo (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidAU Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I like the drinks table part. Certainly be a feature in the garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 There are a lot of projects like this, finished car doesn't have the value equal to the time required to rebuild it. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Actually these are the best deals out there if you REALLY know a particular make and model inside and out and can quickly assess what crucial parts are there or missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 There are a lot of projects like this, finished car doesn't have the value equal to the time required to rebuild it. BobBobFortunately there are a lot of people who disagree. I, for one.For many, many hobbyists, the "value" is in doing the restoration. Time and cost is secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 A trip to the hardware store and a few hours time can easily double the money.I'd do it if I was closer. One of the pictures kind of looked like parts from one of the very rare and discontinued New York Metz. That would be a big online selling point.Bernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) I once reassembled a Silver Ghost in similar condition, albeit not as rusty. It came on 2 trailers and in approximately 18 boxes. It was impossible to tell if everything was there, but the only things I was really concerned about were the major castings and engine parts. I had it running in about 6 or 8 months, working about 5 or 6 hours a day. I would not have considered myself a SG expert when I started, but by the time I was done I may have qualified as one. In any case, on the basis of that job, I was later asked to work on half a dozen more ghosts so it was certainly a worthwhile experience.I very much agree with West on this. For me the challenge is everything. I'm largely uninterested in showing cars, at least to the general public. This isn't one I'd go for but the condition has nothing to do with that. For all the talk about how many such failed projects are out there, I looked for a long time for a medium to big brass car in this condition that I could afford and ultimately had to settle for what I could get, not what I really would have liked to own.Here's the engine I started with... Edited April 8, 2015 by JV Puleo (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithbrother Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I just love to do those projects that B4 I started, I DIDN'T KNOW THEY COULDN'T BE DONE.You fail when YOU don't try, IMO. Dale in Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 We've done 2 restorations of cars in basically the same condition as the Metz, a 1908 Pullman and a 1917 Bell. Makes it interesting to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 That Metz is good for Flat Landers. The friction drive is, lets say, "a little slippery" on the hills we have around here. Agree that it will never be a big dollar car, but would be worth the money just for the fun of bolting it back together. Have at it fellows. Not in my future. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 A trip to the hardware store and a few hours time can easily double the money.I'd do it if I was closer. One of the pictures kind of looked like parts from one of the very rare and discontinued New York Metz. That would be a big online selling point.BernieSay Burnie, This will bring back some memories... Meet the Mets..The New Your ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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