Dave Wells Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Well, within just a week we've seen old cars listed on the "Not Mine" forum from Facebook at $120k, (Brasier), $215k (Cord), and now a rare Hanson for $875,000. I guess that must say something about which venues pull in buyers. Not that long ago, we were trashing FB and commenting on the garbage listed for sale. The garbage may still be there, but here's also a totally different level of automobiles listed there now. I don't follow Facebook, but I would presume other goods (houses, jewelry, and other high-end things) have followed suit. Has FB gained some respectability of late. or are sellers just refusing to pay any kind of commission or fee to sell their cars. Dealing with the stereotypical buyers and the potential risks would be my concern. Maybe I'm just paranoid.😵💫 When will Facebook list a $1,000,000. old car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Facebook, like these forums are free so people can put outrageous prices endlessly. If you had to pay to advertise you would be more realistic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Asking prices make no impression on me. I appreciate excellence in all things, but I am never impressed by money. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Dave I think Gullwing has listed a car here and there north of a million on fb. Several prominent dealers maintain a presence on fb, no different, really than any number of online or print venues. Bear in mind the audience is varied as well - just like here. I know several Model J, Stutz Bearcat, Mercer folk who are active on fb - I am sure many others are on along with the guy trying to find parts for his 77 Tbird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 You are a fool if you list an expensive car on Facebook, eBay or CL. It diminishes the car and 99.9% of the audience can't buy it. Everything over 100K lives in its own special market that needs to be targeted in a thoughtful way. Not plastered all over the internet. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 I was bored the other day and fell into that rabbit hole. I could find a pile of used brick for $5 as well as a $700,000. motor home. The skys the limit. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 (edited) These comments are in line with my lifelong thoughts on marketing. To paraphrase Diogenes "I have been on the eternal search for the uninformed buyer". In the instance the informed buyer materializes plan B is to convince them that they are stealing the item. I have done well listing on Craigslist, Ebay, and Facebook, but you don't see me listing a car for sale on the forum. Edited July 9 by DAVE A spelling (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 I suspect most high end sales don't come about from most any social media listing. But - institutional advertising or buzz is really the value add. I once had a boss acknowledge trade shows gave our firm very little in terms of a business bump BUT if we're not participating and our competitors were, the customer just may think of them first next time... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABear Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 15 hours ago, Dave Wells said: Well, within just a week we've seen old cars listed on the "Not Mine" forum from Facebook at $120k, (Brasier), $215k (Cord), and now a rare Hanson for $875,000. I guess that must say something about which venues pull in buyers. Not that long ago, we were trashing FB and commenting on the garbage listed for sale. The garbage may still be there, but here's also a totally different level of automobiles listed there now. I don't follow Facebook, but I would presume other goods (houses, jewelry, and other high-end things) have followed suit. Has FB gained some respectability of late. or are sellers just refusing to pay any kind of commission or fee to sell their cars. Dealing with the stereotypical buyers and the potential risks would be my concern. Maybe I'm just paranoid.😵💫 When will Facebook list a $1,000,000. old car? Facebook themselves do not post vehicles or whatever is being posted. The posts you see are from individuals or organizations which can be legit OR scammers. Anyone can post whatever they feel like posting at any price they wish to post. Just because it is listed at a price, does not mean it is real or it will sell for that price. As EBay used to say, "Caveat Emptor" which means "Let the Buyer Be Aware". Just because a photo or series of photos are posted, doesn't mean the item is really real, or for sale and the person that posted it is real.. Scammers abound on FB, more so than EBay and CL now days as they have ruined those platforms they are now picking up the crumbs at the bottom of the barrel on FB. Photos can be "scraped" or "lifted" very easily from any source that is on the Internet, including this forum and you might even see your own photos you have posted to this forum or other Internet websites being used to "sell" a non existent fake car by a scammer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 IMO, a good number of desirable cars trade hands by word of mouth through friends and car clubs. They never make it to any advertisements unless the owner wants to send it to auction for the experience. Just a thought. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 I knew a guy who claimed to have a Duesenberg, only to find out it was a fiberglass body on a Pinto chassis. UGLY! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 33 minutes ago, Paul Dobbin said: I knew a guy who claimed to have a Duesenberg, only to find out it was a fiberglass body on a Pinto chassis. UGLY! That is a first. Typically the "Duesenberg" ends up being a Buick. Usually not a 90 series either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69merc Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 2 hours ago, Larry Schramm said: IMO, a good number of desirable cars trade hands by word of mouth through friends and car clubs. They never make it to any advertisements unless the owner wants to send it to auction for the experience. Just a thought. Those are also THE BEST ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander Wildeisen Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1659976871195529/?ref=search 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander Wildeisen Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 I will find an old one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Listed 28 weeks ago in Los Angeles, CA 28 weeks agoAbout this vehicle Driven 300 miles Automatic transmission Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Black Fuel type: Gasoline 1 owner Seller's description Private seller ready to sell now 60 miles no brokers no trades I don't need help selling it located in Hawaii. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ( I wonder if he'll take a check?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABear Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 (edited) 9 hours ago, Reynard said: ( I wonder if he'll take a check?) Maybe offer a third party post dated check? Edited July 9 by ABear (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 3.3 Million for that? Reminds me of the old saying in the car biz "there is an a** for every seat!" 🤔😁😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander Wildeisen Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/386529764069296/?ref=browse_tab 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Nice to avoid commission on that. 5% would be $75,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTR Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) On 8/1/2024 at 11:17 PM, Xander Wildeisen said: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/386529764069296/?ref=browse_tab That’s a lot of dough for a kit/replica car, but there are always buyers lacking self respect for those too, although not necessarily many for even at half that asking price. Edited August 3 by TTR (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 "Continuation built by Jaguar Land Rover in 2020. One of twenty five built" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTR Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 29 minutes ago, alsancle said: "Continuation built by Jaguar Land Rover in 2020. One of twenty five built" ... or more bluntly/simply put, "another replica". 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 1 hour ago, TTR said: ... or more bluntly/simply put, "another replica". 😉 Continuation is the latest fancy word for replica, in the spirit of, homage, reproduction, knock off, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 58 minutes ago, alsancle said: Continuation is the latest fancy word for replica, in the spirit of, homage, reproduction, knock off, etc. I saw a couple of weeks ago that Shelby America is building a few more roadsters that will have an 'official shelby s/n'. I think the price was in the 600k-700k range. I guess they figured now that the decent 'replica's' are getting upwards of 100k that they may as well join the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 4 minutes ago, TAKerry said: I saw a couple of weeks ago that Shelby America is building a few more roadsters that will have an 'official shelby s/n'. I think the price was in the 600k-700k range. I guess they figured now that the decent 'replica's' are getting upwards of 100k that they may as well join the game. They have done that before. Its called "cashing in". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 I've said this before, I would rather have a real lesser car than have to explain my continuation replicamobile. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 I had to go back and see what this topic was about. Placement of advertisements. Facebook could meet the needs. Just yesterday I responded to a Facebook post on 1958 Cadillac by mentioning I had just finished taking pictures for a '58 Cadillac convertible I was going to list for $105,000. Just slipped it in there all nonchalant and innocent. Might use that technique somewhere else as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTR Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 (edited) 21 hours ago, alsancle said: I've said this before, I would rather have a real lesser car than have to explain my continuation replicamobile. I'm with you on that, except I would rather take a bus, bicycle or just walk than own any fake/replicrap. I've been offered test drives in some fake/replica Shelby Cobras & Ferrari SWB's, etc, including some that have been described/"explained" as being "exact tool room copies" of originals (which I seriously doubt), but never seen the point in accepting such invites(?), especially if it doesn't include back-to-back drive with a latter for comparison. I mean, what would be the point ? To be able to say I drove a replica of something today ? Edited August 4 by TTR (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 One just listed: (1) Marketplace - 1939 GMC futurliner | Facebook Craig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTR Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 36 minutes ago, 8E45E said: One just listed: (1) Marketplace - 1939 GMC futurliner | Facebook Craig "Automatic transmission" ??? Not to mention that generator. What else is not authentic about it ? Looks neat, but what is something like this good or practical/useful for ? A Disneyland/-world parade or ride ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 1 hour ago, TTR said: "Automatic transmission" ??? Not to mention that generator. What else is not authentic about it ? Looks neat, but what is something like this good or practical/useful for ? A Disneyland/-world parade or ride ? Not sure if all, but some of the Futureliners were updated for the postwar Motorama shows. Besides Hydramatic, they also received the Guide-Matic automatic headlight dimmer. Craig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 I got to sit in the one in Utah that Kindig restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTR Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 On 8/5/2024 at 6:25 PM, 8E45E said: Not sure if all, but some of the Futureliners were updated for the postwar Motorama shows. Besides Hydramatic, they also received the Guide-Matic automatic headlight dimmer. Craig Were these all documented period factory upgrades or someone just adding/tacking on accessories and modifications during some subsequent restorations in private ownership ? You know, kind of like people commonly add driving lights, side mount spare tires, power steering or windows, etc. their cars originally didn’t come with. The control switches, instrumentation or their labeling on the picture dash doesn’t strike me as having a factory or pre-war appearance either, but who knows …? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 3 hours ago, TTR said: Were these all documented period factory upgrades or someone just adding/tacking on accessories and modifications during some subsequent restorations in private ownership ? You know, kind of like people commonly add driving lights, side mount spare tires, power steering or windows, etc. their cars originally didn’t come with. The control switches, instrumentation or their labeling on the picture dash doesn’t strike me as having a factory or pre-war appearance either, but who knows …? Factory. Especially after the Hydramatic proved itself in HD use during the war in army tanks. I could not see a restorer adding a vintage Hyrdamatic unit over installing a modern Allison transmission with all the work required to do the conversion. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTR Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Well, I was mainly referring to the automatic headlight dimmer, but could easily see a “restorer”/modifier using a “vintage” upgrade for period correct appearance, especially if the conversion was done decades ago when Allison transmissions were less readily available than Hydramatic, et.al. Even when I reconstructed my PB Roadster 35 years ago, almost all hot rod builders/constructors were using using SBC’s, TH automatics or some readily available later model 4-spd manuals, for me it was important to use only components, materials and parts that would’ve been available in the early-to-mid 1950s, including a ‘53 (Dodge truck) 3-spd, 6V electricals, etc., but that was my personal preference (& still is). Just about all (dozens) restorations I’ve performed in past 4+ decadeshave focused more on authenticity than anything else. OTOH, if any vintage vehicle has any non-period upgrades, I don’t think it can really be consider “restored”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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