alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Another one that makes the top 10 all time. I believe it was supposed to be crashed and scrapped. There are a couple of reproductions floating around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Graber bodied Cadillac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Brunn Lincoln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 KA Lincoln. Lebaron body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Dupont made 3 Model H cars before closing shop. The one survivor is the famous dual cowl. The other 2 have disappeared. At least one survived the war and was being used in Wisconsin to tow race cars by the son of the chief engineer of Dupont. I have never seen picture of either car. Not sure that any exist. Stan Smith had none in his book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 A convertible version of the Reo Royale Victoria. They made at least one. None have survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Derham bodied Lincoln. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Derham bodied Pierce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Just now, alsancle said: Derham bodied Pierce I guess I was wrong about that one. In before ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I have a newspaper clipping when this car was shown in Maine in period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, alsancle said: Derham bodied Pierce I had my hands on this car seven days ago...........Past Kuhn and Warshowski collection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer09 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 maybe even a few Duesenbergs? At least 10-20 sitting in garages throughout Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 29 minutes ago, mercer09 said: maybe even a few Duesenbergs? At least 10-20 sitting in garages throughout Europe. Maybe. Not not lost. I say this a lot, but there hasn't been an "undiscovered" model J since the early 1960s. There will be a "barn find" Duenseberg ever 10 years that the general public knew nothing about. However, there will be 6-12 guys that knew all about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer09 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 True al- maybe not lost- but definitely undiscovered. So much wealth was in France and Switzerland after WW2 and the people who own them, dont need the money. In the last 2 yrs, 1000s of paintings were "discovered" in Germany that an art dealers son held. Value in the billions............ he wasnt advertising............... located right in a major city. Totally unknown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 Great stuff, thanks for all the input.....as far as the paintings go, with the right paintings it wouldn't take long to get to a billion! 450 million paid for Salvatore Mundi by da Vinci. The most expensive car car is now at 70 million, I believe, Ferrari. it will be interesting to see what cars surface in the next few years..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 David, I think your 70 is on the low to very low side. I have been told a offer of 90 was refused on a car, and I believe both the source, and the car in question bringing that money. No comment as to who or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, alsancle said: Packard "Glasscock" speedster. Sort of not missing (or at least not all of it) - my understanding is that a portion of it was found and a car was re-created with a combination of original and new parts. Edited December 9, 2018 by John_Mereness (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Just wondering, I get very tired listening to the line about somebody buying a car for XXXX Million dollars only to have someone say he needs to drive it to "enjoy" it. What do these same guys say about the 100+ million paintings? Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 17 hours ago, 1937hd45 said: Got it, the photo, not the car. Bob Sort of not missing (or at least not all of it) - I see original parts for this laying around anytime I visit my favorite machine tool shop. Parts have been surfacing for years with people scratching their heads trying to figure out what they fit (and then periodically a "light bulb" turns on and ...). Interestingly, to add to the confusion there appears to have been a somewhat close "second one" too and a few parts surfaced for it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I pulled the MILLER photo from my issue of the Miller Dynasty, the other car only had engine and radiator shots. There was a thread here within the past year showing the above car in a movie. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) Here is a "thought lost" something I finished restoring last year - 1939 LaSalle Series 50 Bohman & Schwartz. We made it to the show field at Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance "close to finished" and then finished it in April. Edited December 9, 2018 by John_Mereness (see edit history) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, edinmass said: David, I think your 70 is on the low to very low side. I have been told a offer of 90 was refused on a car, and I believe both the source, and the car in question bringing that money. No comment as to who or what. Wouldnt doubt it, all I have access to are public records, you're privy to the "stratosphere" of the car collecting world! Lucky dog! i think a lot of car collecting is "pride of ownership", just as it would be with paintings. I recently had an offer for my '37 Cord phaeton. I don't use the car much, as I end up driving my Pierce more often than not. However, my thought process was "OK, I wake up tomorrow morning and DON'T own a Cord, how do I feel?" I turned down the offer, and it was a generous one that was four times what I have in the car....thus pride of ownership, not use, swayed me.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 If we are doing show and tell, this was assumed lost too until Ed messed up and didn't grab it in time. There was a number of articles written about it during the 90s in the CCCA newsletter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 minute ago, trimacar said: I recently had an offer for my '37 Cord phaeton. I don't use the car much, as I end up driving my Pierce more often than not. However, my thought process was "OK, I wake up tomorrow morning and DON'T own a Cord, how do I feel?" Funny, as I think the same way. But, I sold what was my dream car a few months ago, owned it for 20 years and never thought about it again the next day or since. In fact, the only thing I've ever actually regretted selling was an original Stutz supercharger with period paperwork, history from 1937 and one of about 4 known complete units. It has gone to a very good home, however. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I assumed this was lost, until John pointed out it wasn't. But it has been hiding for about 25 years . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Here is the Peerless Jeff was referring to. I think lost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Now back in the habit of checking in daily. Great thread guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVES89 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 What was the chauffeur driven limousine used in "It's a Wonderful Life"? Always thought that was a great car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer09 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 450 million paid for Salvatore Mundi by da Vinci and half of the opinions out there consider it a "fake".................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) There's stuff out there. I think the majority of car guys run across a stash or a single car and just zip the lips. About 50 cars were in this Quonset garage. I stopped in every time I took my Daughter back to college and came home alone. I thought that in four years I could get the plastic Auburn but it didn't happen. Edited December 9, 2018 by 60FlatTop (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 51 minutes ago, alsancle said: Funny, as I think the same way. But, I sold what was my dream car a few months ago, owned it for 20 years and never thought about it again the next day or since. In fact, the only thing I've ever actually regretted selling was an original Stutz supercharger with period paperwork, history from 1937 and one of about 4 known complete units. It has gone to a very good home, however. Not to go too far astray, but I had to go look for this. Here are some pictures of my departed supercharger. http://home.townisp.com/~alsancle/StutzSuperCharger.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Just now, 60FlatTop said: There's stuff out there. I think the majority of car guys run across a stash or a single car and just zip the lips. About 50 cars were in this Quonset garage. I stopped in every time I took my Daughter back to college and came home alone. I thought that in four years I could get the plastic Auburn but it didn't happen. Is that Dick Shappy's Derham bodied Model J? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Just now, alsancle said: Is that Dick Shappy's Derham bodied Model J? Nope, it's a Montana J. I sat behind the wheel and was shocked by the Mustang shifter. Old Mr. Mace got a laugh out of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer09 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I had my hands on this car seven days ago..... Is that the one in Hemmings now for 250k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, DAVES89 said: What was the chauffeur driven limousine used in "It's a Wonderful Life"? Always thought that was a great car. That was a Model J Duesenberg. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, mercer09 said: I had my hands on this car seven days ago..... Is that the one in Hemmings now for 250k? Not sure of the price, I was in a shop in St. Louis last Saturday and it was getting serviced. Stuck my nose in where it didn’t belong.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 17 hours ago, Joe in Canada said: I know of a 1930 Cadillac V16 roadster sitting in a boat house up here that is a basket case. The body was restored and painted about 30 years ago in California where the car came from. I remember he had the chrome plating and engine done and then stored away. I know the owner very well and I believe he will never get back at it. With real correct V-16 roadsters bringing seven figures to mid 1.5’s it will get finished some day. Maybe some encouragement to hike to just pass it on would be a good idea, while the market for them is strong. I’m not a quifiled buyer.........there are plenty of them chasing those cars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, alsancle said: Brunn Lincoln. 16 hours ago, alsancle said: Brunn Lincoln. T This car was last seen in Michigan getting some wood repair. It’s the double entery saloon, one door, that opens from both ends, done in Brewster Green. I saw restoration photos of it by the current owner, who may or may not still be with us, around 1995. Had a great talk with him about the car. Edited December 9, 2018 by edinmass (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I remember as a kid in Royal Oak, Michigan, going into a friend's, grandfather's garage and seeing a massive car (to me, anyway). It was running and I could not hear it run. It was a 1937 Packard V12 sedan. What an impressive automobile at about 13 years old....or ANY age, for that matter. I wonder where that car went. Another time, I was picking up a parts car 1936 Dodge Brothers sedan for my own '36 and the property out in Auburn Hills, Michigan had other cars on it. One was the front clip with fenders, radiator, engine and complete frame from a 1932 Marmon 16. The other was a 1940 Packard limousine that was on it's side, but in GORGEOUS shape. I asked Mrs. McKim, the owner, why the Packard was on it's side. She said, "They store better that way". She also had an old Federal truck that was pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 If I had the funds I'd collect 1928-32 Lincolns, they look great to me and always seam underpriced compared to other cars in that era. Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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