alsancle Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Ed, we are not passing judgement, except on our friends exceptionally cool PI in the crappy color. speaking of soauchik... this make it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 This survived but you will never get to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Waterhouse bodied Dupont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dep5 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1931 Chrysler Imperial CG chassis with custom body-Romania? I need to dig out my copies of Overseas Graphic and do a better scan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Supercharged Graham. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Almost forgot this one. Allegedly photographed in the same driveway as the Speedway Z that survived in Cleveland sometime in the 50s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Another view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 How could we forget the cabin speedster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Murphy coachbuilt Hudson. If you found this, you would be king of all Hudson owners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Another Weymann Peerless. Those Zapron bodies didn't seem to last too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Is this Doble still around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1935Packard Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) On 12/8/2018 at 10:35 PM, edinmass said: I had my hands on this car seven days ago...........Past Kuhn and Warshowski collection. Too bad it was sold before you got there. I hope there was a consolation prize. Edited December 10, 2018 by 1935Packard (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, 1935Packard said: Too bad it was sold before you got there. I hope there was a consolation prize. It went to a first time Pierce owner.....another new convert. Now we need to get you into a Buffalo built car! Ask the wife if you can get another car for the collection.🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Here's 12 possible 'missing' Lincolns: https://www.ebay.com/itm/352538641577?ViewItem=&vxp=mtr&item=352538641577 Craig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, 8E45E said: Here's 12 possible 'missing' Lincolns: Craig It's almost a shame they were found..........virtually every car there would have been better served if they were used as parts cars back in the day when people were doing total restorations on cars like these. It would have saved another twenty or so cars that probably never got done. I think the most interesting thing is the seller actually thinks he will sell them as a lot. Let's do the math, and say you live three hundred miles from him. That's 15 thousand miles of towing cars if you move them one at a time on a single car trailer........fuel,tolls,milage on the equipment, hotels, food,and TIME alone means a cost of say 25k to move all the stuff if you do it as a one guy/one truck project. Any way you slice it, you need a place to store them when done, add in time for parting out 8 or 9 of them, and even if they were all given to you for free, it's gonna cost you money. Prediction.....he will end up selling one or two of them to dreamers, the rest languish for a long time, then the entire remaining pile gets given away or worse yet.......sent to the scrapper because of the bad attitude the seller will have by the time it's all over. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, edinmass said: I think the most interesting thing is the seller actually thinks he will sell them as a lot. Trying to sell them as a lot almost makes them sale proof. It would be an interesting conversation on the logic with the seller. There are 2 or 3 of those that somebody might sign up to restore, but it would be a long road and the probability of completion is small. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Agreed they should be released for sale on a 'one-at-a-time' basis. That way, more photos of each of the 12 could be posted in the individual listings, and the other 11 wouldn't be held 'ransom' to the particular car of interest to the buyer. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 That Lincoln collection reminds me of one I looked at a good 20 years ago with maybe 6-8 cars. One was a real head turner 1929-31close coupled Fordor that was really nice. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 hours ago, edinmass said: It went to a first time Pierce owner.....another new convert. Now we need to get you into a Buffalo built car! Ask the wife if you can get another car for the collection.🤔 Ed will bring you around to PA eventually. Let me help. The Pierce 12 will run rings around the Packard 12. And don't forget the ball bearings on the spring shackles. Did I forget anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, alsancle said: Trying to sell them as a lot almost makes them sale proof. It would be an interesting conversation on the logic with the seller. There are 2 or 3 of those that somebody might sign up to restore, but it would be a long road and the probability of completion is small. The Zero feedback tells me the collection may not have started with the seller. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said: The Zero feedback tells me the collection may not have started with the seller. Bob Agreed. I think I ran out of "known" unknown cars. I'm sure there are plenty of missing great cars, but if they were not one off coachbuilt or part of a tiny batch, then we wouldn't have a period picture now to know we are missing it now. Edited December 10, 2018 by alsancle (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 15 hours ago, alsancle said: A Lincoln guy help me out please. Are the two of these floating around now replicas? I had assumed that one of them is real. But now don't remember if it was the green on or the tan one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 12/8/2018 at 5:28 PM, edinmass said: The Packard Twelve Speedster Pheaton which is the big brother to the Macaulay Speedster is alive and well, when I was looking at it this spring. I haven’t seen any photos of it on line, and I don’t have any of them myself. It’s a fantastic car, in a garage full of Incredible cars........AJ, do you have a photo? This one. It was restored in a gorgeous dark blue. However, the mix between 1930 body and 1934 styling didn't work (in my opinion). Its square back didn't quite work with the V-shaped front, especially when shown with the top up. It has been "shown" only once, that I'm aware of, at least on this side of the MIssissippi. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 This Stearns is not known to exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 One wonders if Ed is chasing this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I'd chase this 1929 Packard. Possibly LeBaron??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 12 hours ago, alsancle said: This survived but you will never get to see it. You'll never see this one again, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K8096 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, West Peterson said: One wonders if Ed is chasing this: I know where that one is and have seen it in the flesh. It’s still in nice original condition, but if memory serves me right the sides have been painted solid black. Probably done back in the late 30s or 40s. The owner used to drive it around his area. Believe me, he knows exactly what it is and it will not be sold cheap! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K8096 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, West Peterson said: I'd chase this one. I can't tell if it's a 1929 or 1930. Possibly LeBaron??? I’d go with LeBaron. Looks just like a Duesenberg barrel side phaeton body. Windshield treatment same too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, K8096 said: I’d go with LeBaron. Looks just like a Duesenberg barrel side phaeton body. Windshield treatment same too. While it "looks" like the barrel-side Duesenberg, I don't think it's the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, K8096 said: I know where that one is and have seen it in the flesh. It’s still in nice original condition, but if memory serves me right the sides have been painted solid black. Probably done back in the late 30s or 40s. The owner used to drive it around his area. Believe me, he knows exactly what it is and it will not be sold cheap! Nope. If at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Seen in a breakers' yard in Geneva in 1964. Did this custom 1939(?) Packard survive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K8096 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, West Peterson said: Seen in a breakers' yard in Geneva in 1964. Did this custom 1939(?) Packard survive? Isn’t that the maroon & black Derham that was featured in the CCCA magazine a few years ago? Completely restored now, it was offered for sale at Hershey 2 or 3 years ago for 700K. It was parked near the Packard Club tent. Edited December 10, 2018 by K8096 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curti Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I took this pix at Hershey a number of years ago. There can't be too many Chrysler speedsters around. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, West Peterson said: This Stearns is not known to exist. It is not the one in Toronto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander Wildeisen Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, Curti said: I took this pix at Hershey a number of years ago. There can't be too many Chrysler speedsters around. That is one of the best looking cars I have ever seen. Looks like it is going fast just sitting there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) On 12/10/2018 at 9:40 AM, West Peterson said: One wonders if Ed is chasing this: I can not tell a lie.........I don't even know what year that Model T is.............but I will admit to knowing where it is currently parked! Edited December 14, 2018 by edinmass (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 hours ago, alsancle said: Ed will bring you around to PA eventually. Let me help. The Pierce 12 will run rings around the Packard 12. And don't forget the ball bearings on the spring shackles. Did I forget anything? Well AJ, to own a Pierce twelve, you need charming good looks, an above average personality, and the good taste to make the purchase............so I guess you'll never own one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, West Peterson said: This one. It was restored in a gorgeous dark blue. However, the mix between 1930 body and 1934 styling didn't work (in my opinion). Its square back didn't quite work with the V-shaped front, especially when shown with the top up. It has been "shown" only once, that I'm aware of, at least on this side of the MIssissippi. West, I believe the car was put back to it's original build configuration, a bit different than the photo shown above. In my humble opinion, I think its one of the top five Packards in the world........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Well... it's original build configuration was a 1930 734 Speedster phaeton. What is different about the car now as opposed to the way it looks in this photo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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