Guest geep Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Need help to identify my Dad's touring car - see attached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer09 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Buick about 1914 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Novak Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Yep! http://www.weilinet.com/Info.aspx?mid=3016&fn=1914-Buick-B-25-Touring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass is Best Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Looks to be a 1915 Buick Model C. It has a rounded grill shell and a sweeping belt line behind the windshield. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Yep....Brass is Best got it. 1915. Edited January 30, 2017 by keiser31 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Yes 1915 C-37. The plate shows a 1920 date. The car looks to have a nice new top. The original top does not have the gypsy sides as shown here. Larry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxgvd Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I vote for 1915 c25 Buick, the light touring. The rise from the hood to the windscreen is more pronounced in the 25 series. I am restoring one presently and it is good to see an old, original photo. Larry check the Buick Crestline book to see the difference in hood height. Interesting Buicks were all black then but not today. Gary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wldavis Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Who is sitting in the driver's seat of the b&w photo you posted ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geep Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 That was my Mom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wldavis Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 That's nice that you have an early photo of your mom. That "sailor" blouse/top she is wearing seemed to be popular in that era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geep Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Yes it was, I have pictures of her first two daughters dressed similarly. You and your fellow antique car buffs have been so helpful but I have a question regarding the ID: could that car have been a Cadillac? I have a letter my Mom wrote to her Mom telling her about this young man she met and in it she mentions that the family has a Ford and a Cadillac. I now have another auto I hope your group can help me identify and will attach it herewith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 There is no way the first car can be anything but a Buick... I believe the car in the photo with the two little girls is a Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lump Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 On 1/30/2017 at 11:45 AM, dibarlaw said: Yes 1915 C-37. The plate shows a 1920 date. The car looks to have a nice new top. The original top does not have the gypsy sides as shown here. Larry Dibarlaw, please elaborate. The OP's old B&W photo does show a nice, new-looking top. I have a 1923 touring car of my own, but I am totally unfamiliar with the term "Gypsy Sides," and I don't see anything that looks out of the ordinary in that photo. Thanks in advance for any enlightenment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass is Best Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 18 minutes ago, lump said: Dibarlaw, please elaborate. The OP's old B&W photo does show a nice, new-looking top. I have a 1923 touring car of my own, but I am totally unfamiliar with the term "Gypsy Sides," and I don't see anything that looks out of the ordinary in that photo. Thanks in advance for any enlightenment. Lump, the "Gypsy Side" is the flap of material on the rear that comes around and follows the rear top bow. If you look at the small photo of the blue car in my previous post it shows the stock style top that only attached to the rear portion of the seat and did not come around to the bow. Hope this helps. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass is Best Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 39 minutes ago, JV Puleo said: There is no way the first car can be anything but a Buick... I believe the car in the photo with the two little girls is a Ford. I would agree the car in the second photo is a Model T Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass is Best Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, geep said: Yes it was, I have pictures of her first two daughters dressed similarly. You and your fellow antique car buffs have been so helpful but I have a question regarding the ID: could that car have been a Cadillac? I have a letter my Mom wrote to her Mom telling her about this young man she met and in it she mentions that the family has a Ford and a Cadillac. I now have another auto I hope your group can help me identify and will attach it herewith. I hope you located the photo of the Cadillac we would like to see it. Thanks for posting the photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 On 1/30/2017 at 8:24 AM, geep said: Need help to identify my Dad's touring car - see attached * * * Cool picture!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Whether the top in the original picture is correct/original or not, it's exceedingly well done. There were true craftsmen building these cars, even if they were on an assembly line, or as the case might be, after market. I'm going to "steal" the photo and use it in my upcoming seminar, unless original poster objects..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geep Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Trimacar; I have no objection whatsoever to your use of this photo. I'm just so grateful to you and others for the identification of the Buick but, I do not have a pic of the Cadillac and maybe there wasn't a Caddy at all. My Mom may have just been stretching the truth to impress someone back home or falsely identified the Buick as a Cadillac. Howsoever, if I come across another photo and it doesn't look like either a Buick or a Model T, I'll certainly post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emjay Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 "Gypsy Side" that's great. Dad would always make a disapproving comment when a car had those. It would appear that others didn't like them either. He definitely saw them as unoriginal on many cars and overdone on customs like having diamond pleated everything. Faddy, with no function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lump Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 So then, would you say that my 23 Hupmobile has "Gypsy Sides?" My dad had this replacement top installed in 1963 or 64, when I was a kid. It's still there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stude Light Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 lump, Your Hupmobile has the same top style as my 1923 Studebaker that was advertised as having a one man "gypsy type" top in the advertising brochures. I wonder why the term "gypsy" was used. The definition of gypsy is used to describe a nomadic group of people. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Yep. The car in post #1 is a 1915 C-25. One dead giveaway is the 8 sided Octagon shaped hubcaps. The C-36 and C-37 models had 6 sided hexagon shaped hubcaps and are larger in diameter. Also the hand crank hole is below the radiator rather than part of it like the larger Buick C-36 and C-37. Dandy Dave! Edited February 2, 2017 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Wiegand Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 The 'Gypsy' style tops did not come along on Buicks until the 1918 models. Since everyone is in agreement that the Buick in the photo is a 1915 and the license plate is for 1920, this would tell me that the car was 're-topped' at least once by the time the photo was taken. Notice the after-market accessory headlight lenses. 1915 Buicks left Flint with plain clear glass headlight lenses. And notice the exposed door hinges - beginning in 1916 Fisher Bodies went to the concealed style of hinge. Dave, you have a very sharp eye about the hubcaps - good call on that feature. Terry Wiegand Doo Dah America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Dave: I bow to your skill! Gary got it also. I went directly to my file of 1915 cars and thought it a C-37 as wishful thinking. The C-25 is second from the top in the photo. I must pay attention and should have known since I have about 20 photos of the 1915 C-36 that I bid on at the R/M auction. The purchaser (once removed) did get on the forum once to introduce himself and was not heard from again. The catalog photos are not of an angle to show the crank thru the radiator. So I did an oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBulldogMiller55Buick Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 On 2/1/2017 at 8:00 AM, geep said: Yes it was, I have pictures of her first two daughters dressed similarly. You and your fellow antique car buffs have been so helpful but I have a question regarding the ID: could that car have been a Cadillac? I have a letter my Mom wrote to her Mom telling her about this young man she met and in it she mentions that the family has a Ford and a Cadillac. I now have another auto I hope your group can help me identify and will attach it herewith. Cadillac? no. Wouldn't you rather have a Buick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 The car with the two young Lady's on the running board is definitely a Model T Ford early to mid 1920's. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) On February 2, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Terry Wiegand said: The 'Gypsy' style tops did not come along on Buicks until the 1918 models. Since everyone is in agreement that the Buick in the photo is a 1915 and the license plate is for 1920, this would tell me that the car was 're-topped' at least once by the time the photo was taken. Notice the after-market accessory headlight lenses. 1915 Buicks left Flint with plain clear glass headlight lenses. And notice the exposed door hinges - beginning in 1916 Fisher Bodies went to the concealed style of hinge. Dave, you have a very sharp eye about the hubcaps - good call on that feature. Terry Wiegand Doo Dah America Yes Terry. The light lenses are aftermarket. I have those on my 1915 Buick and spares put away just in case one breaks. The way the head lights are mounted with the forks is also a 1914-1915 thing. The 1916's mounted different. Actually the Door hinges did disappear in 1915. One of the features my C-36 has. Those flat fenders give it away as a 1915 also. If memory serves me correctly I think that the 1916's had a bit of a dish shape to the fenders. I suppose after 5 or so years of use it may have been time for a new top if the car was always in the elements. Just the way the replacement top came, or the top man made it I suppose. Just another used car back when the photo was taken. Dandy Dave! Edited February 6, 2017 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxgvd Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Interesting the windshield has a slight laid back rake so I would suppose to is from a later model of Buick but before 1920 (from the plate). The 1915 should be straight up and down. So a replacement top and windshield, perhaps at the same time, though still a two man top. This model c25 was discontinued at the close of 1915. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Doing a little more research the smaller 1915 C-24,s and C-25's did still have exposed door hinges like Terry said and they are clearly seen in the photo in post #1. The larger C-36, C-37, C-54, and C-55 do have hidden hinges. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geep Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Can anyone identify the autos in the attached pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave39MD Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 The top one is a 31 Chevrolet Cabriolet. Looks like the fold down windshield has been removed for more speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Agree that the top car is a Chevy. The bottom car is a 1927 or 1927 Model T Ford. The 26's and 27's had a nickeled radiator shell. Not sure on the center one. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I'm thinking the center car may be a mid to late 1920's Chrysler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 52 minutes ago, Dandy Dave said: I'm thinking the center car may be a mid to late 1920's Chrysler. Not a Chrysler by the look of that taillight shape and hood latches. Other parts are not Chrysler like the hubcaps. Looks to be a 1926-1927 something by the bullet styled cowl lamps. Looks like a Fisher bodied car, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Center one is most likely a 1927 Pontiac Landau Sedan. Jaxon 12 spoke wheels, hub caps, hood latch, parking lamp, landau iron, sun visor, door handles and embossed running board apron all match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) Tinindian, I think you nailed it, Edited February 10, 2017 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geep Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Thank all of you for your input but there is not a consensus on the middle pic. I remember at one time we owned a Willys-Knight, could this be it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) What do you want for a consensus? No the middle car could not be a Willys-Knight for all the reasons listed above. Here is one to compare with. This car has 12 spoke Jaxon wheels, different hub caps, different hood latch, different parking lamp mounted in a different place, no landau iron, different sun visor, different door handles, the running board apron has a different pattern embossed on it, the hood louvers are different and the window shape is totally different. Do a Google search and look at all the Willys-Knight images to check for yourself. Edited February 10, 2017 by Guest (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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