Bud Tierney

1920-28 per Mroz, dying in 1929, along with a lot of company... Typical assembled truck, altho Mroz states a few models used "own" engine, probably their design built by one of the proprietary engine builders... Apparentaly fairly popular as mentioned in most of my period catalogs, where a lot of other names aren't. Engines used run the gamut--Herc, Wauk, Lyc, Cont'l, Midwest----an equal upportunity engine user...

These thoughts never come up at the right time... I don't know if Cont'l had much early penetration of the heavy eqpmt industry, but you mught try both posting on and contacting HCEA....I don't get into the site very often as ir had little forum traffic, but I understand they have a considerable old literature librarsy, the theory here being Cont'l may've peddled the J as a const eq/industrial engine... Similarly, you could post on some of the old farm/Ag sites, the theory here being that farmers had a thing for pulling engines out of crippled cars to turn into power units, and not all of them get melted during the war... My apologies, of course, for belaboring the obvious...

I had a little short wheelbase 50 Plymouth 2dr, in southern NM/Ariz, and it had the moisture problem (it dos get wet there occasionally)... A mechanic friend gave me some stuff similar to vaseline, but odorless, as I recall, to coat the insides of the dist cap (not the contacts)...said they were prone to collecting moisture...

SHEESH!!, ignore WEHS, that's the Wauk people....it's been hot here in Portland and my brain hasn't cooled yet... you know Monte's from earlier threads. I understand they've advised they have little on pre-1920, but they're worth a try... Also regret to advise I have nothing useful on the J; it's too early for my catalogs...

OUCH!! If you haven't already, and tour block seems even remotely patchable, you should research block repair in these old-car/truck/Ag vehicle forums--some amazing repairs have been made using new technology/materials... I will eyeball my period catalogs, most of which also have a "motors" section for the proprietary engine builders, but they're weak on 'teens listings... Don't confuse with the J4, a then popular truck engine (itself hard to find per recent comments)... You might also try Dennis at WEHS.NET, who may be able to advise re' the "J" engine, possibly builders engines wer originally shipped to---they're extremely friendly/helpful people thers, and you're going to need all the help you can find... My apologies for the gloom; will advise what i find...

If possible, check with the previous owner----if you only used up a tank or patial tank of gas, this could be some idiosyncrasy that cropped up before...

Re' websites---just Google GMC/ Gen Mororstruck forums, several that cover GMC should pop up--there's just old trucks and aths for general truck forums---Google antique fire trucks ans at least a couple should come up for info on the fire equipment....there's a wealth of help omline...

Checking in Mroz., just in case missed, find Packard made a 7T model I have no listings for,,,

Was in the list of trucks using Waukesha engines awhile back and noted they had Paclard listed with a question mark... Anyone here familiar with Packard truck history (05-23) and/or ever heard of this??? Would almost have to be a specialty model of some kind----have numerous Packard truck listings up to 5-6T, but all with "Own" engines...

On the point of generator damage agree---while it's too late now, that kind if draw should've had the generator warmer than usual from internal heating, but that would/ve taken experience to be detectable... Also, , IIRC from my generator days, relay and voltage regulator points often have a subtle wiping action, and polishing, rather than just filing, was recimmended when cleaning the points...details should be online...

My knee-jerk reaction to what I just read is DON'T, unless you've a sophisticated background in steering geometry......minor differences in steering linkages can result in steering irregularities... If you feel the OE rod is too weak, reinforce one, some extra weight should have no effect on the OE steering geometry...

Don't know how rare these engines are...had he impression they were unique to the Durant/Star models... FWIW---Ran across an old page in my Cont'l engine lists and noted the W4 and W5 were also listed for some 1929 Gleaner Baldwin farm combines, one catalog listing the 10 foot model with both W4 and W5, and the 12 foot with the W5... It;s an old name in combines, but I have no idea of production numbers...several old Cont'l engines seem to've gone into farm eqpmt at the end of their production lives...clearing uit inventory?? There was a combine collectors website a number of years ago; don;t know if it;s still going, but there;re a number of old tractor/farm eq sites...

HT: Just ran across this by accident; meant to reply at the time but apparently didn't...rather late in the day but... If still looking for engine parts can list some info on piston assembly, valves and ,main bearing sharing with other Lyc's...and the engine series in case others in the series may be a fit or adaptable...l

Some years back (they all run together) maybe in 6V days, someone built and advertised a :traffic light" type of bar.. three light ,showing .red when slowing or stopping, orange (?) apparently never took off, don't recall ever seeing one installed in cars i followed... when at steady speed, green when accelerating...l OOPS..spelling correction dropped out part...that was orange. I think, for steady spee and green when accelerating

"Zero suction"??? On some cars, if you don't insert the pumping arm correctly into the engine block, the pump arm can miss the driving cam, and just sit there, not actually pumping as you grind the starter... Did you work the new pump by hand befroe installing to see if it made pumping sounds??

Should've thought to look them up...a 36 King Prod catalog lists no rods (poured?) but shows sana mains for the 10, 11, 12. 14. 15, 16 and 18Es... Jordan, Moon and Peerless used them; possibly the Clubs might have sources. The 18E was heavily into trucks; you might try the old truck sites...happy huntin!! OOPS---the early 29 Durant model 70 is down for, oddly, the 18E

Not much help, but for the record a Shurhit catalog lists 668C for some 31 Pres 8s; judging by engine size, per Std Cat that would be the Series 80/90...(660X is also listed in that catalog for some31 Pres 8s)...

A good place to start would be Monte's Equipment, located northwest of Chicago ILL, longtime dealer in obsolete Cont'l engine parts---website should come up on Google

If OB2 above can't help. post the ID # of the distributor...Falls was not a large builder but did have fair market penetration, so chances are your distributor was used on other cars even tho the engine itself is unique... Apparently Falls was not too helpful with engine ID info as many of my earlier catalog entries say "Falls" but no ID other than bore...

You didn't say whether your cars a daily driver you have for fun or a fully restored beauty... In years past there were numerous additive compounds that swelled up old leaking seals for people who just wanted a few more miles out of the old buggy that wasn't worth rebuilding the transmission in...(or, nowadays, when the leak worsens, selling the car to a restorer who has deeper pockets0... I'll get brickbats for suggesting such Mickey-Mousing, but i used a good quantity of that stuff myself, for both transmissions and power steering, and when the old jalopies died it wasn't becuse of transmissions or power steerings going out...

My set refuses to blow up your pic, but I think it says 19L...many thxx!!

(1) which engine is in the Coupe?? (2) Does the for sale engine have an ID tag?? Many thxx!! Bud

This sort of post is always simply amazing.... Apparently the seller has no idea of what they fit, or could be fitted to, seemingly has no interest in trying to find out, so leaves a prospective buyer all the wok of trying to ID, with no idea if price would be affordable if he found he could actually use it... My apologies, of course, if this's just part of a longtime game among old friends...

Hey, these old cars had an ammeter---what's it been saying?? Or had Hudson already gone to on idiot light, like my old 36??? Can't recall what the 34 Tearapieces or the 35 Coupe had,,,all long gone...

As mentioned above, an old McCord catalog lists those for Overland 75-90 of 1916-19, and also their 800lb delivery 1918-19... I'm pretty sure the Willys Clubs include Overland and Whippet, and I saw a facebook page for a Registry that included Willys-Knight, Whippet and Overland, if you're not already in contact...