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Bud Tierney

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  1. Should've remembered to add to check with Monte's Eqpmt, longtime supplier of obsolete Cont'l parts, generally the first place to start for Cont'l questions...they did state son e years ago they were weak om pre-1920, but they might've meant parts and not info... Our old contact there was Garrad (Gerry/Jerry) Moon, but can;t find my old email lists... In addition to selling the Hudson engine (I'm sure dozens have asked that question) you might ask if he has any info on the M, listed as a 4" bore in the 1917 catalog (stroke? what used for--auto/truck/ other??)
  2. If anyone out there has a copy, would you be kind enough to see if it mentions the "other" Continental---Continental Engine Co, Chicago and Danville, Il?? They sold engines in competion circa 1905-1913 or so (CECo claimed 1895 as their start), There is at least one trade journal with a 1/2 page ad by one, the other half of the page an ad by the other, both with engine illustrations!! CECo advertised heavily for awhile, both HO and verticals, and seems to've gone into CycleCars and died out 1913-15 or so. Don't recall finding any litigation; just idle curiosity.
  3. Having trouble with site-two previous tries blinked out Cont'l too popular to chase makes---try AACA Historian/Library, HET Club ditto probably lest bet. Also is Cont'l History book, may mention.. Believe your engine 4x41/2=226??? If so, coni'l issued few 4x---only two in 1917 ring catalog . Try inquirug for circa 1911 or so 4 cyl 4" bore Cont'l and see what comes up.
  4. In the three year interim I've sold off my pre WWI stuff but do have scribbled notes original Model 20 had Budas, but no mention whether off-the-shelf engine, designed by Buda to Hudson specs or designed in-house and just built by Buda. Also say1911 Model 33 engine, presumably state of the art at the time, designed in-house and just manufactured by Continental. Assume you member HET club; otherwise only suggestions are checking with UK source--Hudson had later presence in UK but no info on earlier. Also could move inquiry to either Hudson or Continental Motors forums below for wider exposure (or notes therein to see your post in Parts Wanted if allowed). You might ask the Club if they have any info on possibility Cont'l may've sold the Hudson engine for other than cars/trucks (Ind'l, road const, Ag, etc)) either during Hudson use or after Hudson went to 6, under some Comt'l model #_ AAAH- found my Hudson=Railton book.., says exhibited iew 40 HP sux at "Olympia Show" 1913, so good chance exporting earlier.
  5. Forgot to mention several trucks that have websites or Facebook pages: Brockway, Diamond T, Federal, GMC/Chev/GMC, Velie, and, Ward La France. Good places to start looking.
  6. Your CSeries seems to be C, TA, CA-C4 if it exits, CCA, C2, C4, and maybe T6. CA, CCA,C4 issued in 3 3/4 and 4 1/8 bores others appear 4 1/8. Monte's maybe able to advise if suitable substitutes if no C is available. CA-C4 may be listing where engines options or if C4 replaced C2. CA-C4 in over 100 trucks per my list up through 1923.
  7. Just out of curiosity, ask other 7r owners if they know Y the 7R disappeared so quickly...a fatal flaw? Or just underpowered and board out to 3 3/8?
  8. Your 7R quickly replaced by 8R, a 3 3/8 using same valves and bearings. Davis and many others in PF's list above used both. Auburn Elcar and Moon have clubs, members there should be able to advise if 8R dropin fit. 8R also used in various trucks to 1931. Bud Tierney
  9. Just noticed the "Rotary"...only one catalog ID's rotaries... =85 Rotary with Cont;l FA162 variation of 4 cyl F4162/F162/PF162.. 125 Rotary with either Cont';G193 or Herd DD198, which sound like diesels but are not covered in my parts bppks... All Worthington models are listed as numbers, as above,...' olookimg for a model IU..
  10. Rusty: I've got about 450 names on my Cont'l users list, all prewar cars, trucks, buses altho contains a few one-offs, like the prison inmates who built a truck with a Cont'l engine... And that doesn't begin to count the construction eqpmt etc, probably nearly (or more!!) an numerous... They had little penetration of early tractors,but there are a few... My list is made primarily from listings in old car/truck parts catalogs and some from vehicle reports in the literature, so I'm sure it's far from complete to WWII... Bit there's a complication; see my yesterday post in the Cont'l Motors forum re' the other "imitation" Cont;l, The Continental Engine Co (189?/190?---1914 or so) I don;t know of any supposedly compolete list... list..;.
  11. Those of us in the hobby (compulsion/obsession??) for years take some things for granted, such as everyone knowing about Cont'l engines...a Peerless owners request for info reminded me that wasn't true for everyone... "Our" Cont'l started 1903? or so---believe they had 2 Cyl verticals in a 1903 auto show---as Autocar Engineering Co. Chicago. and later became Cont;l Motor Nfg co... There was a SECOND Cont'l---Continental Engine Co, Chicagp, apparently a contemporary---ads appear mid-1905 and perhaps earlier, , and for awhile our Cont;l ads warning of "imitation Cont;ls" being adverised and apparently sold. There is one trade journal that printed an ad page, each Cont;l having half that sa,me page!! That Cont'l seems to've died out 1913=14 or so, turning into a Continental Engineering Co. They advertised a full line of engines and later referred to a factory in Illinois, but my limited research didn't settle whether they were actually a builder or just selling someone elses engines... Letters to readers repair Q and A in Horseless Age (??) stated one of their engines was in the Van roadster... They were also involved in a line of "Wastern" and "CE" engines. As old auto reports sometimes just say "Cont;l engine", there is some doubt ablot early lakes being "our" cont'l users...
  12. This belongs in the Peerless forum here (scroll WAY down)...Models 80/81are listed with Cont'l 8U/18C (same engine series; Models 61/61A show as 11E...don;t know iP Peerless ID'd on tag on block
  13. Per my Cont;l lists (primarily from old parts catalogs, therefor not complete)... 38 Victor gasket catalog lists 12=13=14=15Ks under one set of gaskets..in addition tp the 14K listed for Graham Paige 8 models 827, 835, 937 1928-30 other makes using are: Davis---12. 13. 14Ks DuPont, Jordan, Peerless, Ward LaFrance---12 and 14K Elcar, Mercer, Meteor Hearse ---12K S&S (Sayers and Scoville--hearses etc)---12 and 15K Gray Marine marinized the 14K as their Phantom-Cruiser-High Speed 8 (don't know if one model or three))... If Club doesn't have info re' possible interchange, try Mpnte's Eqpmt in IL. longtime obsolete Comt'l parts dealer. Contact there in years past was Garrad (Gerry/Jerry) Moon, maybe garradmoon@montes@flash.net??) This should also be posted to Cont'l Motors forum below...
  14. Your engine is listed as a Continental 14K, which seems to have only one sister engine, the 12K, neither of which seem to have had much use among other makes...my Cont'l file not at hand but will locate and advise later... This should also be on the Graham and Paige3 forum here, which has a link to the Club, if you're not already a member or in contact... OOPS---checked later catalog; looks like the series became 12 thru 15K, with a wider usage...will advise later...Club should know about possibility of interchange...
  15. My apologies for late reply on this---was offline for a bit and missed it... If you're still there you need to contact the Durant Car Club---if you'll scroll down there a Durant forum here.. W4 and W5 were apparently used solely Durant ; catalogs differ, some show both in Durant anf Star (one of Durant's cars), some W5 just in Star, altho believe some letover?? W5s wound up in combines... I have nothing on a W5A, but assume it's a variant of the W5, and assume your A and B are works code for some difference in carb, ign or some such.. If Durant Club no help try Monte's Eqp,nt, longtime obsolete Cont'l parts dealer; will cpme up un Google...
  16. You might try contacting Terry Harper , who's been painfully rebuilding an old Wisconsin, having to fabricate a good deal of it. He posts here and on other forums--I think Practical Machinist?-- under T Harper and Teery Harper. He should come u on Google; click on his name on any post that comes up and email should open up. His posts are an education in fabrication; he might have some cogent information about locating parts now for old Wisconsins
  17. Did Bentley actually name their car the Speed Six??? How crass...one would have expected the Quick Six, or perhaps even the Very Quick Six. I suppose that in 1929 some standards had to be relaxed...
  18. On the point of running a rod thru radiator tubes, thatused to be called rodding it out, something every radiator shop was familiar with... But if you're doing it now, with a hard to replace radiator, be very delicate, tubes can spring leaks if already weakened (then you have to plug that tube---yes, I can hear the teeth gritting)
  19. Whicvh 1919 model?? Seriously, there should be an ID tag on the side of the block giving engine type (E4,C4, N ad nauseum) giving the bore and stroke---online CID calculators will give COD. Engines were advertised as X or X-X HP, but figure was often unreliable for specific engine ID... If no tag found take off all cast stamped numbers/letters and email to Monte;s Equipmemt. longtime obsolete Cont;l pats dealers//
  20. Schacht was around fir awhile--cars 04-13, then trucks to 38---a good idea would be to Google for a club or group and/or other wners
  21. Just speculating (don't know how knowledgeable you are re' Schacht) Std cat indicates may be same engine 1904-08 (10 climbing to 12 HP---tweaked?)....doesn't mention built own engines, so could be proprietary unit used more widely...
  22. OLDTECH---was that XAS a typo???---all that shows up in gasket sets in 30 McCord and 38 Victor is X, XA, XAH and XAK...the XAX only shows in a water pump gasket noted "(XAX-IHC)" in the 38 Vic's XA/XAH/XAK gasket set... While my engine lists are far from complete, I list no XAS...
  23. Didn't I re[ly tp this???? Engine hjould be Wauk X series--X, XA, XAH, XAK or XAX--to contact Wauk Eng Hist Soc (wehs.net for manuak etc???? Try oldihc.com for pther help, advice, sympathy if required... I'm sure I hit Post...or did I just drop off to sleep for a minute???
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