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Bud Tierney

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  1. Missed this earlier... Per a 1930 catalog Paige 6-65 1926-27 used their own Paige/Jewett engine... 6-45 1927 used a Cont'l "L"of 27/8 bore (there were a number of 27/8 bore 6 cyl "L's:, nine listed in a 1936 catalog---there were also 23/4 bore 6 cyl "L"s)... I have nothing that details the differences between the various 27/8 "L"s...
  2. My period catalogs do a poor job of identifying which White engine was in particular models, but FWIW, my clearest is a 36 engine parts catalog... Valves---GEC motor listed in five mpdels for 1919 only; no sharing with other engines...(valve table BEGINS with 1919 models)... Piston assembly---GEC and GM motors are listed for eight or more models 1919-22, with no way to tell which had which (this table also begins with 1919 models)... Bearings---GE, GEC motors are listed for four models 1917-20, again no way to differentiate (this table lists models as early as 1912)... REMEMBER these not complete---parts co's only listed what moved enough to justify stocking, listing... There appears to've been an engine series---GE, GEB,GEC, GED and GEG are listed, all 41/4 bores... White used letter designations up into the mid-late 20s, when they switched to numbers: 1A, 2A etc engines... If no White Gurus chime in here, do try the old-truck sites; tons of Whire information is out there, and this's primarily an auto site...... for
  3. There's a EWhite truck group website--classicwhitetrucks.com---but the page comes up blank---there,re lots of White truck people around; you might try other old-truck sites... A period catalog describe White truck engines by letter designation---GEC, GN, GO8/GR and GR---you might check yours for any such cast, stamped/embossed letters and numbers and add them to your inquiry...
  4. The 4SL had two pistons per that 36 catalog... 4SL to #15624 shared pistons with 4S, 4SG, 4SM 6s and 4H,4HM 8s (4 ring piston) 4SLl #15624 (sorry, that's what it says) to 26996 takes a 3 ring piston, not shared by any other Lyc...... Remember that engines used primarily in trucks, so you could post on the various old truck site looking for leads... ...
  5. Don't know if this's helpful... a 1940 parts catalog shows that parts co only sold a repair kit, not individual parts, for 37 models, but the kit is listed as covering 35-37 120, 120B, 120C 8 cyl and 115C 6 cyl---if your model is in that batch it might widen your search a bit...maybe someone has an interchange manual.. That impeller number appears unique, at least as to that catalog, to water pumps listed above---catalog runs thru 40/4i, but that catalog doesn't have a master list showing if the impeller was used by any other makes...
  6. Google Lester---home phone, mobile and email will cone up, but better not delay, as Google says he's 90...a poor joke, nut I'm entitled as I'm 89 and heading there myself... If Lester no help try the Elcar and Gardner car clubs---Elcars used the 2S and 4SM at least, and Gardners show with 2S, 4S, your 4SL (generally a truck engine) and 4SM... Even if no help, if bearings now unobtainium. other owners may've found modern work-around..
  7. If the above is no help and you have to go on the hunt, a 36 engine pats catalog says the Lyc 2S, 3S, 4S, 4SG and 4SM all share mains with your 4SL... If necessary, I can advise some clubs for makes using one or more of the above... I assume you've already tried oldihc and the other IH forums...Lyc pats are not that common now...
  8. I have very few listings for Maibohm, per low production; the few I have show Falls motors used---not good, but could be much worse as several makes on my Falls list (admittedly far from complete) have clubs---Apperson, Dort, Elgin, Gardner, Saxon, Velie--- They could be sources of info re' parts, availability, etc for your motor, which you should assume was taken out for some problem, looked at,w hereupon someone decided not worth (then) repairing...
  9. Would worn timing chain/gear allow such fluctuation??
  10. OLDFORD, do you have anything that shows the difference between 1827X and 1827XP?? I've a couple little truck/bus catalogs that list 1827XP for a whole raft of DR using trucks, but no plain 1827X. The catalog does have a few other numbers with X, but most other numbers are also XP, whether DR or AL I can't find any footnote in the catalog explaining the difference.
  11. Here are some makes using both the 7N and 9N that I believe have clubs/Facebook groups and such that you can contact for info if you in fact have a 9N (which seems likely)...Auburn,, Case (the tractor people also built cars), Jordan, Marion Handley, Lexington, Moon,Overland (Willys-O), Roamer, Velie, and Sayers & Scoville, who built funeral cars (there're websites for funeral cars, hearses etc). With luck you'll turn up other 9N owners who can advise re' parts, idiosyncrasies, etc.. It's also quite probable that car manifolds may be different from truck/fire truck manifolds... (2) Re' maifolds: if your manifold is just damaged, it might be salvageable. A lot of Ag eqpmt sits most of the year; mice love to nest in manifolds, and their urine rots the iron, so Ag people have created a sub-industry of repairing/rebuilding/fabricating new manufolds...if can't find one consider repair...
  12. Well, I spoke too soon re' popularity of the Ns...looks like the 7N was quite popular, and that a number of makes using the 7N also used the 9N a year or two later...will advise later, thought maybe I spooked you on my mistaken rarity of engine...
  13. Well, that's a little like asking How High Is Up??? Seriously, the place to start with obsolete Cont'ls is Monte's Eqpmt, obsolete Cont'l parts dealers par excellance.. Send all info on tag to Garrad (Jerry/Gerry) Moon at Montes... garradmoon@montes@flash.net or montesequipment.com......they may have parts, they will have advice and sympathy.... Carbs and fan rigs can be Mickey-Moused, but the manifold... If that is a 9N, it's a solid head (no separate cylinder head), part of a "family" of 6N, 7N.,8N, 9N, 10N amd 11N. listed as taking one set of gaskets in a 1930 gasket catalog, BUT among the very few gaskets listed are Exh mfld LARGE and Exh mfld SMALL... These do not appear to've been highly popular engines; there is some limited piston assembly, valve and bearing sharing in the family...I will do a little eyeballing in old parts catalogs for installations in other makes that might be helpful... How to find parts?? When you know exactly what engine, and maybe who d OOPS--you said INTAKE; sorryelse used it, you start asking around forums like this one; fire truck forums are also a good bet, and there's also the profe$$ional obsolete parts dealers...with sympathy, Bud OOPS---you said INTAKE; sorry
  14. A considerable number of tears ago a company (R L Polk??) published registration info by State; I remember looking in a quite large book in California that had a section for orphan cars (we were looking for other local Hupp owners).. Anything like that still available with all the datamining going on??? And you could try posting inquiries on places like Craigslist that have national search options...
  15. There,s both a Divco club and a facebook group, should come up on Google...
  16. I don;t know Mr Smith, and it's all too true that repairs/parts for obsoletes can be high... On the other habd, this is a mass produced economy; fabricating obsolete parts in small amounts is more expensive, they're likely to be in inventory for longer times ($ sitting in inventory) , etc... I'm ssure there was a good amount of time involved in examination and analysis, in order to be able to determine new brushes were the answer....it all adds up...plus the fact that the workman is worthy of his hire: people with the experience to work on obsoletes are becoming rarer and rarer...
  17. While I don't follow mainlines (Chev/Ford/GMC ad nauseum) you're quite fortunate in there being a considerable and enthusiastic White Truck community... Googling should bring up at least one website and probably more than one White club... While parts may not be readily available you'll find a world of friendly advice and experience; basically, you're stepping into a whole new deligtfull world of fellow White enthusiasts.....
  18. My parts list is sadly out of date, but I see continentalengines.com still comes up under obsolete Cont'l parts; parossnachinery.com (longtime Cont'l dealer) has been helpful with obsoletes in the past... justoldrucks has a fair list of profe$$ional obsolete parts dealers in their "vendors and restoration services" section... Your springs fit a raft of Cont'ls, and should be around...
  19. (!) have you tried Monte's?? (montesequipment.com) obsolete Cont'l parts dealer (2) a 36 king Prod (engine parts etc) catalog shows Flint 23-27 E and other models with the Cont'l 6E, which, in turn, lists valve spring VS56, which (per that catalog) also fits some 6b, 6J, some 8B, 14 different Ls and the 12Z 8 cyl....AND the Auburn 666A for 1927... Try Montes if you haven't already You probably can't get any away from the Auburn people, but some of those Ls went into other Durant cars, as noted above, Moon and Paige, who all have clubs, plus a batch of familiar truck names: Corbitt, Federal, Hahn, Kleiber, Moreland etc If you have to post on the old truck sites I'll try to set out a few specific makes/models for the truckers...
  20. Well, I might as well belabor the obvious too.. You didn't mention if the stiffness had been gradually worsening or had more suddenly occurred... "Stiffer than it should be"... how/who/what determined how stiff it should be?? If personal experience with this or other period similar trucks, a valid statement..unless, of course, it's a White idiosyncracy of your model... On this point, I assume you belong to one or more of the White Truck groups; have other owners of your model, or other 28s, agreed there was a problem somewhere and/or offered suggestions you didn't exp;lore?? (You do seem to've covered every likelihood except your original question above)... Last, but most regretab;y presumptuous, how long have you had the truck?? You're not remembering how easy it was to steer 20 years ago?? The old complaint "This thing steers like a truck!!" did have a basis...
  21. From my own very limited experience, I've found that when projects require different pieces from different supp;iers, if something doesn't come out right the first thing you get is a merry=go=round of finger pointing--- "My parts were perfect, tour installer botched the assembling" or "we only put together the parts you provided; we're not to blame if they weren't up to spec."... Buying from someone who'll do the work is most always much more expensive, but if somthig's awry the fault can't be shunted off to someone else...
  22. Ahhh, many thxx!! Presumably production stopped when Hinkley Motors expired. Any idea if any good when new?? Tried Googling, but all I got was lingerie and some performing group... Just idle curiosity on my part; I've never evem driven a Model T, so don't need one. Again, many thxx!!
  23. (Sorry, no link) In 1923 or 24 Hinkley Motor Co, a truck/bus engine producer, announced a plan to refurbish Fords under the HIMICO brand name... The project included an engine rebuild kit (modernising and increasing power) and the replament of the original trans with a conventional clutch and trans package.. Work could be dome locally with purchase of the whole kit, or the original engine etc could be sent to the Hinkley factory, I believe the one in Ecourse, for the work... Is this something known in the plethora of Ford modification projects?? Hinkley Motors died in 1926, co this may never've gotten off the drawing boaed... Any comments appreciated.
  24. Whenever I hear of these cases they a;ways remind me of the Tulip Craze and, what was it , the South Seas bubble?? etc, etc,...
  25. Geez, Vince, c'mon....you work at a restoration shop that didn't know the HET Club existed, or didn't want to contact it?? No one was born knowing everything; there's no shame in not being able to figure out something you're not familiar with...we all have to ask questions... I do hope trying to muddle through is not usual shop practice....
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