Roscoe Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Well, one of the reasons. Of course my lack of funds, combined with my lack of general talent contribute greatly...but I love to drive antiques too much. The '52 is still in the cold shop as is the '46....but the A was sitting n the carport when I ran out of bologna. And it wanted to go somewhere as bad as I did, since we've been shut in due to artic temps and snow. In Arkansas, we don't have the equipment to deal with winter weather like the north so it doesn't take much to shut us down. So away we went to the ancient general store. Untreated dirt roads and all... Anyone else drive their old cars in this stuff at all? * I wouldn't if it were far, or if there was salt used. Only about a mile and a half round trip... 36 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhach Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 That is what they were made for. Good on you for having fun with your car. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) I would not have a problem with snow only. But in my part they start to brine then spread salt faster than the snow can fall! All in all not bad I suppose as our roads are quite passable not long after the snow stops flying, but the chemicals will ruin a car faster than just about anything. Not worth it. They typically put so much on our roads will literally be white from the salt. I took mine out the other day just before it got bad. Now its gonna take a couple of good rain storms to wash the roads off before I go out again. I should add, your car looks great! Show car or not. Edited January 17 by TAKerry (see edit history) 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rata Road Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I'm not shy of driving any of my oldies in the snow either. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Salt mix no but backroads dirt roads im in!! Great looking A Roscoe!!! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFeeney Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 When my "Driver" makes it back to the "Club Motel" at the meets I attend , It's like Winning Best of Show. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Luddy Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 I'll try to post a picture tomorrow of my daily winter driver, 2011 Volvo XC AWD wagon. Can't wash it as it's -11 Centigrade here in Ontario. Been down to -18 or so for the last 3 days. Poor old Volvo is totally encrusted in salt spray. Looks like the rim on a well prepared Margarita! 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, Steve_Mack_CT said: Salt mix no but backroads dirt roads im in!! Great looking A Roscoe!!! We are pretty fortunate here...not a lot of the salt mix used. And for a real daily for my job, I have an awd Ford Explorer, and if I'm on duty and there's an issue the state pays for it. LOL And the old girl looks much better in pics than in person, but it still amazes me that an auto nearly 100 years old looks and runs this good. It was 14 degrees the other day- it cranked over three times and fired up- without the choke. I was amazed. 3 hours ago, Rata Road said: I'm not shy of driving any of my oldies in the snow either. Color me outdone and impressed. LOL Edited January 18 by Roscoe (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DuVal Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Brined the roads here starting last Sunday. This stuff is AWFUL! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 27 minutes ago, Frank DuVal said: Brined the roads here starting last Sunday. This stuff is AWFUL! I had planned a trip to the Roanoke area this past week, then we got hit in Arkansas with single digit temps and snow and I decided it wouldn't be smart to drive NORTH during winter weather. Told my friend I was planning to visit he should've been in Florida and I'd have visited him. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 12 hours ago, Ed Luddy said: I'll try to post a picture tomorrow of my daily winter driver, 2011 Volvo XC AWD wagon. Can't wash it as it's -11 Centigrade here in Ontario. Been down to -18 or so for the last 3 days. Poor old Volvo is totally encrusted in salt spray. Looks like the rim on a well prepared Margarita! Have a white car, it wont show up so bad, LOL. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 10 hours ago, Frank DuVal said: Brined the roads here starting last Sunday. This stuff is AWFUL! I have built or repaired a few salt barns for the state and county govt's. Its amazing how rotted out the equipment is that is used to load the trucks. These are mid size articulated loaders, usually only a couple of years old. The buckets and front arms are always just about gone as well as the wheels are rotted beyond. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Heaps Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) I couldn’t get out! And yes, way too much brine! Edited January 18 by Rusty Heaps (see edit history) 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DuVal Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 It seems a lot of people like conspiracy theories. I say the car manufacturers are in cahoots with brine manufacturers! Good old salt/sand mixture wasn’t working fast enough.😂 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass is Best Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 My roads look like Bonneville so all flight operations are on hold for a while. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Shaw Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Freezing rain and snow here in the NW. I have not ventured out in 3 days and will wait until it is all melted and washed away with the expected rain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1gt Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 I like to drive my cars, I do not own perfect cars. I do understand the need for museums, but it is like an animal in a cage. I was the president of a local club, so I entered a car in the show. I normally do not. Some friends popped the hood to show off the dirty engine! It did not do well at the car show but the drag strip was a different matter. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesR Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Yes, all of my cars are drivers, too. As Kerry said, salt and ice melting chemicals are a major concern in regions with strong winters. It wasn't that uncommon to see 10 year old cars that were rusted beyond repair when I was a kid. The other thing to be aware of with winter weather is that 10w30 or 10w40 oil can get pretty thick during frigid cold snaps. Because of this, I usually don't start my cars in winter until it gets to be about 40 degrees F or above. If that isn't an option and you have an unheated garage, maybe run an electric heater in the space for a day or so before you start your old car. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Luddy Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 There are plenty of 10 year old cars around here (Ontario Canada) that have serious structural damage rust. My dealer friend bought a 2013 Cadillac CTS coupe from a Cadillac dealer last summer that was so rusty it was scrapped. But to look at it you would never know. The body and paint were very nice. Until they put it on a hoist to do a safety inspection and the sub frame caved in. The Cadi dealer had to take it back and return his money but the dealership fought to not take it back. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rata Road Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 We don't have anything put on our roads in the winter over here that will rot your car, not cold enough I guess so all they get is wet. Great driving at the moment as its the middle of summer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesR Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 6 hours ago, Ed Luddy said: My dealer friend bought a 2013 Cadillac CTS coupe from a Cadillac dealer last summer that was so rusty it was scrapped. But to look at it you would never know. The body and paint were very nice. Similar story on my brother's late 90's Chevy Malibu. He got it 10+ years ago with with extremely low miles (maybe 30-40k) and paid only $2000. He figured the low price was due to an uninformed seller, but in retrospect the previous owner was probably aware of the condition, hence the price. My brother did drive if for 10 years, though. Good thing it didn't come apart while he was driving it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 13 hours ago, Ed Luddy said: There are plenty of 10 year old cars around here (Ontario Canada) that have serious structural damage rust. My dealer friend bought a 2013 Cadillac CTS coupe from a Cadillac dealer last summer that was so rusty it was scrapped. But to look at it you would never know. The body and paint were very nice. Until they put it on a hoist to do a safety inspection and the sub frame caved in. The Cadi dealer had to take it back and return his money but the dealership fought to not take it back. I bought a parts car when I was restoring my 77 ta. It came from n. nj. The body was absolutely perfect in every way. I literally could have buffed the paint and it would have looked like a new car. The floors and frame rails were completely gone. It was obvious the owner kept the car washed and cleaned on the top side never caring for the underneath. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DuVal Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 So how does one clean the inside of frame, frame rails, rockers ? When salt gets in it stays. Park near the Atlantic when a Nor’easter blows in, good luck fixing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Guy Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) On 1/17/2024 at 3:39 PM, TAKerry said: I would not have a problem with snow only. But in my part they start to brine then spread salt faster than the snow can fall! All in all not bad I suppose as our roads are quite passable not long after the snow stops flying, but the chemicals will ruin a car faster than just about anything. Not worth it. They typically put so much on our roads will literally be white from the salt. I took mine out the other day just before it got bad. Now its gonna take a couple of good rain storms to wash the roads off before I go out again. I should add, your car looks great! Show car or not. I agree completely: the brine is the worst! I am in Texas and the winter weather we get usually only amounts to a handful of days that get much below freezing and a handful of days with a dusting of light snow (less than a couple inches total) and a few days dealing with ice storms. There have been a couple of exceptions (2021 especially) where things got unusually bad for a much longer period of time, but for the most part it's a matter of a few cold days here and there. The procedure had always been that the entire area essentially shuts down until it warms up and everything melts away. Since that usually only takes a couple of days, it wasn't really ever a big deal. Then everyone from the local municipalities to the state highway departments discovered brine. They are so trigger happy here with that brine garbage that they'll start spraying the roads here 5-6 days before we might get snow or ice so we get to drive around in it for nearly a week before anything happens. There is so much of it that it's like driving down the road on streets that have been painted white. Eventually it gets so dusty it's like driving through a dust storm. Then we have to wait for a major rain event or two to get is all washed off the roads. The stuff is horrible. I don't even like to drive my modern daily driver in it, let alone any of my old stuff. At least we only get it here in short bursts. I feel bad for those of you that have to deal with this stuff for months on end. I spend a lot of time in the rust belt and upper midwest part of the country and the amount of rust seen on even relatively new vehicles is just unbelievable. Edited January 22 by Scooter Guy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Heaps Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I long for the good old days around here, when the snows came we stayed home. No salt, no worries! Nearly everyone got a snow day back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I took a 66 Mustang Conv. in on a trade for a Porsche Speedster Replicar. Mustang looked real nice, but when I looked underneath it had two pieces of angle iron welded to the floor in a big X, to keep it from breaking in half. I didn't allow much for that trade and required prospective buyers to look underneath. The kid that bought it said he worked in a body shop and it would be an easy fix. I doubt it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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