plymouthcranbrook Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) From Hemmings website. Beautiful car priced way beyond my means. No cut for me if it sells. https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/desoto/deluxe/2584021.html?itm_source=homepage&itm_medium=Classifieds&itm_campaign=Recirculation Edited May 21, 2022 by plymouthcranbrook (see edit history) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Yes, a real beauty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Seller says in his listing that this was an original "black out" car so does that mean that all the chrome and bright trim on the car now would have been painted originally? Just curious, I think the chrome looks terrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-mman Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, GregLaR said: Seller says in his listing that this was an original "black out" car so does that mean that all the chrome and bright trim on the car now would have been painted originally? Uhhhhh. . . . .yeah. . . . . .The last production month for the 1942 model year was basically just to use up parts that were on hand so that they did not have to be disposed of. (wasted). Between Pearl Harbor (12/7/1941) and the end of January 1942 there was a lot of discussion about whether production of SOME TYPE of civilian car would continue during the war? Perhaps a single model and body style from a single manufacture? Perhaps a single model and body style from EACH manufacture? In any event, the use of all superfluous chrome was going to be forbidden. The War Production Board (WPB) and the Office of Price Administration (OPA) did not want to give a marketing/sales edge to any manufacture that had stocked up on chrome parts very early in the production year. (read GM) So they ruled that NO chrome (or stainless) TRIM was going to be allowed. (Note: Bumpers were always chromed) So, in the last weeks of production - Some makes used paint over bare diecast. Some used paint OVER previously chromed diecast. Some used mild steel stampings that were painted. Some painted over previously produced stainless. (The few original blackout cars I have inspected sometimes have combinations of paint over chrome and paint over bare metal indicative of using up parts on hand) Again this was all with the idea that there would be a full 1942 (and 1943, 1944. . . ) model years. 60+ days of scrambling, and quotas, and rulemaking, after Pearl Harbor and the bureaucrats decided to just pull the plug on everyone. Impounding and rationing all the new cars on hand. FYI - "Black out" cars were NOT ugly! The manufactures devised wonderful combinations of light body colors with contrasting dark (painted) trim and Dark body colors with light colored trim. High contrast and all beautifully coordinated. Commonly with extra pinstriping. However it seems that perhaps during a restoration it is easier to just chrome everything and then tell people that it WAS a rare blackout 1942, than it is to research and restore it authentically. Whitewalls on a 1942 always look out of place. The upholstery doesn't look correct to me, but I don't know Mopars Edited May 21, 2022 by m-mman (see edit history) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil morse Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 It seems to me that much of what the seller has to say is highly suspect. Take, for example, the horrible interior on this $59K car. He says it's made with "NOS fabric" that was still on the roll from the factory. From a factory in the 60's maybe. Check out the door panels, tufted with buttons covered with the same odd fabric. I'm no DeSoto expert, but I have a very hard time believing that this is a correct interior. And the interesting part is that the seller actually seems to pick his words very carefully -- he doesn't actually say that it's correct, only that it was stitched from "NOS" fabric on a roll from "the factory." The black out part is also quite confusing, as noted above. My BS meter is pretty much pegged from reading his copy! (However, I have to say that the '42 Chrysler he's offering as part of a "package deal" looks very nice from the few photos he shares.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Smolinski Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 1 hour ago, neil morse said: Take, for example, the horrible interior on this $59K car. The only thing I noticed was the buttons on the seat bottom did not "blend" in with the material pattern on the seat, and the pattern on the buttons was cockeyed. Once noticed, it will bug you every time you see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Ugh! I went back and looked at the seat buttons, now that's all I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Jake Moran Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Total BS on the upholstery. We all know 1940s cars had broadcloth- leather - etc. some combination thereof. Not shiny fabric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) You need a button eating chicken. No more problems. Edited May 22, 2022 by Fossil (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 BINGO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty14 Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) nice, rare car with seats and door panels from hell and a 1942 Chrysler Business coupe in there too.......... Edited May 22, 2022 by marty14 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Are we REALLY sure that the seat fabric is wrong? It doesn't look like the typical striped broadcloth, but none of us knows 1942 DeSotos. Nicola Bulgari has a '42 DeSoto sedan. We could ask him or some other knowledgeable owner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkEE Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 There are online pictures of the solid cloth and two tone “sportsman” leather interiors offered in 1942 in the DeSoto Prestige brochure located here (for now): https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1942-desoto-custom-deluxe-large-3824624314 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthcranbrook Posted May 23, 2022 Author Share Posted May 23, 2022 Here is another view of the interiors from a DeSoto brochure: http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/DeSoto/1942 DeSoto/1942 DeSoto Personalized Interiors Folder/image2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Jake Moran Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I still say the upholstery including door panels - is wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suchan Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Door panels are definitely wrong. I'm sure the owner believes the seat fabric is period, but it just looks wrong for prewar, and for the asking price, there should be documentation. I'm liking that Chrysler in the photo. No cool hideaway lights, but the rest looks pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Here are the 1942 DeSoto interior option pages from the prestige brochure. This coupe's interior is not even close. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I tend to agree with you all. And the onus is on the seller to document that his car is correct. Some carmakers, though, offered more than one interior fabric. This was especially true of luxury marques, such as Cadillac and Lincoln. In the case of Cadillac in the 1970's, for example, the catalogues didn't come close to showing all the interior possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkEE Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I’ve never seen an original 1940’s Chrysler built car with an original door panel with the pattern pictured on the subject car. I’ve seen many with patterns that match the brochure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 55er Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 If green 1942 Desotos would have had an unusual green striped interior like that, would blue 1942 Desotos have had blue striped seats or red 1942 DeSotos red striped seats? That would have been pretty wild for the early 40s and especially for a vehicle from rather conservative Chrysler Corporation. If there actually had been interiors like that available in 1942 collectors & afficionados would still be talking about them today just like they are still pointing out Chrysler's famous Highlander interiors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5219 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 The upholstery cloth looks kind of like the cloth on the 1961 Plymouth that just was posted here. It may be NOS Chrysler cloth, but a generation or two misapplied. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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