Pfeil Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 On 11/30/2021 at 5:44 PM, John348 said: I own this unrestored oddity, it is a 1977 Chevy Monza Mirage I had posted in other threads on our site. Found it through a wanted ad in AACA magazine. My arthritis and it don't get along so well, so it might be looking for a new home this winter. Here is the photo that I based the purchase on 9 years ago and here it now. It has been certified HPOF twice in the AACA John, did you happen to see this Starfire in Bring a trailer? 11/11/21 didn't meet reserve. Just 15K miles. The cars vise: Buick V-6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, Pfeil said: John, did you happen to see this Starfire in Bring a trailer? 11/11/21 didn't meet reserve. Just 15K miles. The cars vise: Buick V-6 We had one of those when we got married except it was burgundy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pfeil said: John, did you happen to see this Starfire in Bring a trailer? 11/11/21 didn't meet reserve. Just 15K miles. The cars vise: Buick V-6 Yes, a friend of mine told me about it. I was surprised it was a no sale at 10K I had the Skyhawk version of one a few years ago with A/C it was a nice car. The Buick V-6 was the perfect engine in the H bodies it was not too heavy and made great power Edited December 2, 2021 by John348 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) On 12/2/2021 at 11:46 AM, Larry Schramm said: We had one of those when we got married except it was burgundy. Back in the 1950s, the "Starfire" name really meant something extra special. Then again in the 1960s it was a desirable version. This one looks "nice", but seems less exciting than its forebears, at least with regard to performance and visual aspects. Edited December 4, 2021 by Marty Roth add comments and photos (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeil Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Marty Roth said: Back in the 1950s, the "Starfire" name really meant something extra special. Then again in the 1960s it was a desirable version. This one looks "nice", but seems less exciting than its forebears, at least with regard to performance and visual aspects. When Starfire made its debut in 1954 one of the "FEATURES" that no other car had at the time was "SWEEP CUT FENDER STYLING". A car with this feature should never wear skirts! Anytime you put a skirt on this not only do you negate the designer's intent, but you create a shadow line beneath the rolled edge of the sweep cut. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_P Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Jumping into a slightly older thread. My 1937 Packard 120 is certified HPOF original. I think it's a great category, and it lets me show my car with other, similar cars. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Luddy Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Currently I have a 1980 Chrysler LeBaron Town & Country wagon that has the original paint, interior, chrome, etc. I did have to change the tires and alternator, kept the original alternator. It was in long term storage in Manitoba before I bought it. So not sure if it would qualify? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
61polara Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Replacement of tires, belts, hoses, batteries and even the alternator are considered maintenance items and there is no deduction for them as long are they are replaced with the correct size and type of item. Dave Bowman AACA National HPOF Chairman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 (edited) Edited December 18, 2021 by Roger Walling The upholstery and paint are all original. (see edit history) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31nash880 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Nice to see unrestored cars but sometimes the changes tell a story. This car,1979 impala, was bought new by my grandfather. We have pics of it on vacations,going to my wedding and sadly at his funeral. I inherited it and daily drove for 10 years. I dressed it up and gave it to my oldest son for his 16th birthday. He still has it. Now with an ls and narrowed ford 9 inch rear. Not original but still in family. The 95 camaro in background is mine 20+ years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gossp Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 I intend to get the dodge in the background to get certified as original, but it wasn’t up for a trip to Hershey last fall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
61polara Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Find an AACA National closer to you and bring it out for an evaluation. Our HPOF evaluation team is at all Nationals, so it is evaluated by the same people who would evaluate it at Hershey. Dave Bowman AACA National HPOF Chairman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akstraw Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I have to admit that I don’t really understand the HPOF class and process. Need to do some research, as I am currently looking at a 1940s car that may qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalowed Bill Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I was going to ask what HPOF is but from the conversation it became clear that it was a class of original vehicles, of which I have several in our collection. It makes me sad that we have no vetting organization in the PNW. Cruise nights and an occasional all comers show are about it for these cars around here. It's a shame with so many survivor cars around here recognition requires street rodding or restoration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarfudd Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Showing and judging aren't everything. Many older cars are in good enough mechanical shape to be driven pretty nearly anywhere. The VMCCA encourages touring, and while it discourages restomods, it doesn't get all bent out of shape if a car has a few updates. Maybe some folks with this genre of car can get together and go somewhere for a day or a weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom99 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) The only non original items on my 1985 Oldsmobile, that I bought new, are the wheels. It came with 205/70R-13's, raised white letter tires. It is just shy of 158,000 miles. Edited December 22, 2021 by Tom99 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
61polara Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Akstraw said: I have to admit that I don’t really understand the HPOF class and process. Need to do some research, as I am currently looking at a 1940s car that may qualify. A good place to start is reviewing the AACA Judges Guidelines which can be found under "Publications" on the AACA Home page here. There is a description of the class and copies of the HPOF and HPOF Original Evaluation forms used by the HPOF Team in evaluating the cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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