VW odd option.

[George Smolinski]

[mike6024]

 

Hertella Auto Kaffeemachine

The porcelain cups that came with it apparently had a metal disc on the bottom of them that allowed them to stick to the machine magnetically. 

[KdFwagen]

I saw a version of that once that was on a swing arm. So if you were driving it could swing in any direction so it wouldnt spill. Saw it in a VW camper that was on.display

[padgett]

Is that connected to the gasoline heater (also optional) ?

 

Wonder what the dual stopwatches are for (rally set would have three and a connecting linkage so one is started, one is stopped, and other was reset).

Edited April 13, 2021 by padgett (see edit history)

[mike6024]

They came in both 6 volts and 12 volts coffee makers.

[46 woodie]

Just what I need, something to spill hot coffee on my lap if I have an accident.

[CHuDWah]

1 hour ago, 46 woodie said:

Just what I need, something to spill hot coffee on my lap if I have an accident.

 

Nah, get your coffee at McDonald's, then you can sue them for millions.  🤣

[8E45E]

The ad doesn't appear to be genuine Volkswagen accessory, nor are they VW Part Numbers.  And VW didn't start using a 12V electrical system on Type 1 until 1967.

 

I do know GM offered electric razors in the 1950's as an genuine accessory.

 

Craig

[mike6024]

It is claimed "Manufactured specifically for the Volkswagen Beetle"

But also came in 12 volt version which VW did not offer anywhere near 1959. So I don't know. Maybe it was made for any vehicle. It had a mounting bracket for the VW dash, but if you wanted to custom fabricate a bracket you could mount it in some other. Also, it just plugged into the cigarette lighter.

 

[Paul Dobbin]

• The first picture in this thread is 1962 or later VW Beetle.
• The second picture could be 1959 or earlier.
• Why?   The gas guage shown was introduced in 1962.

 

 

 

 

 

[8E45E]

2 minutes ago, Paul Dobbin said:

• The first picture in this thread is 1962 or later VW Beetle.
• The second picture could be 1959 or earlier.
• Why?   The gas guage shown was introduced in 1962.

The second photo is either 1958 or 1959.  1957 & earlier dashboards are way different with the radio speaker in the center, and 1960 models got the dished steering wheel like the '62 or later in the top photo.

 

Craig

[padgett]

Early einspritzer ?

[Frank DuVal]

3 hours ago, Paul Dobbin said:

Why?   The gas gauge shown was introduced in 1962.

Yes! I had a friend with a 61 Beetle, and I got used to flicking the "reserve lever" with my foot. You drove until the engine faltered, flicked the lever and drove to a service station. Who needs a gauge? This  is also why VW fuel gauges said R instead of E for many years, a nod to Reserve.

 

The 62 fuel gauge was also mechanical, float attached to a "Bowden" cable that swung the needle.

[KdFwagen]

I have seen before where VW would rebox a german accessory item made by a german aftermarket company. They would give it a ZVW part number (accessory items for VW started with ZVW) That being said, it is possible to find some accessory VW items as an "original authorized" accessory part or as an aftermarket item as well.

I use to collect mint NOS boxed accessory items back in the 80s and 90s.

[8E45E]

7 hours ago, Frank DuVal said:

Yes! I had a friend with a 61 Beetle, and I got used to flicking the "reserve lever" with my foot. You drove until the engine faltered, flicked the lever and drove to a service station. Who needs a gauge? This  is also why VW fuel gauges said R instead of E for many years, a nod to Reserve.

Except you had to remember to reset the lever after you filled up with fuel.

 

Craig

[plymouthcranbrook]

And then along came Starbucks and Dunkin Doughnuts to ruin a great plan.

[Pfeil]

On 4/13/2021 at 1:00 PM, 46 woodie said:

Just what I need, something to spill hot coffee on my lap if I have an accident.

That's why that coffee maker is  NOT a factory accessory.

[Pfeil]

On 4/13/2021 at 5:32 PM, 8E45E said:

The second photo is either 1958 or 1959.  1957 & earlier dashboards are way different with the radio speaker in the center, and 1960 models got the dished steering wheel like the '62 or later in the top photo.

 

Craig

The second picture is 58-59. Not all 1960 models get the dished steering wheel. The Standard beetle and the Standard Custom models keep the old LONG steering column until 1966 and both have no gas gauge until 1966, The standard also uses the old 3 spoke steering wheel that goes back to 1938. The Standard Custom model uses the 56-59 deluxe steering wheel with the long steering column. Both standard models continue with this arrangement threw 1966 model year.

Here is the picture of my 65 111 1200"A" Custom ( in 1965 VW starts calling the Standard model and the Standard Custom 1200"A""s) Note the long old style steering column and deluxe style steering wheel, manual choke, grab bar delete, and no chrome trim on dash with gas gauge delete and reserve tap on firewall. Note the gray only door cards and no map pouch and the "A" pillar with no door light switch. Speedo is in kilometers.

[padgett]

'57 Karmann Ghia had the same lever.

[8E45E]

9 hours ago, Pfeil said:

The second picture is 58-59. Not all 1960 models get the dished steering wheel. The Standard beetle and the Standard Custom models keep the old LONG steering column until 1966 and both have no gas gauge until 1966, The standard also uses the old 3 spoke steering wheel that goes back to 1938. The Standard Custom model uses the 56-59 deluxe steering wheel with the long steering column. Both standard models continue with this arrangement threw 1966 model year.

Here is the picture of my 65 111 1200"A" Custom ( in 1965 VW starts calling the Standard model and the Standard Custom 1200"A""s) Note the long old style steering column and deluxe style steering wheel, manual choke, grab bar delete, and no chrome trim on dash with gas gauge delete and reserve tap on firewall. Note the gray only door cards and no map pouch and the "A" pillar with no door light switch. Speedo is in kilometers.

You have a non-US market Beetle.  

 

To my knowledge, the Standard and Standard Custom was not marketed in the US or Canada, but that did not stop one from importing a Standard Custom prior to 1968 on their European Delivery Program, or a US serviceman bringing a new on home upon his returning from duty overseas.   Not to mention, different VW assembly plants around the world used older components years after the German plant upgraded to more modern components.

 

Craig

 

 

Edited April 15, 2021 by 8E45E (see edit history)

[Pfeil]

8 hours ago, 8E45E said:

You have a non-US market Beetle.  

 

To my knowledge, the Standard and Standard Custom was not marketed in the US or Canada, but that did not stop one from importing a Standard Custom prior to 1968 on their European Delivery Program, or a US serviceman bringing a new on home upon his returning from duty overseas.   Not to mention, different VW assembly plants around the world used older components years after the German plant upgraded to more modern components.

 

Craig

 

 

Craig, The 1200"A" Custom model was imported to Canada. The only difference from a Euro Standard Custom and Canadian 1200"A" is the European model stays with Franz Reimspiess original design architecture 36 HP engine and Canadian's get the new 40HP engine.

My fresh air 1965 36 HP engine;

 

 

 

This engine below is a 40HP engine. The 40hp was used in the states from 1961-1965. In Europe it was used from 1961-1978, in fact the very last Beetle sedan made in Germany was a 1200 40HP with swing axle. Notice the difference between my 36HP engine and the 40HP. The 36HP has a cast in generator stand-the 40HP has a bolt on generator stand. Notice the difference in the fuel pump location between the two. FYI the Porsche 356 1600 engine design is in-between these two engines as it has a bolt on generator stand but the fuel pump is in the same location as the 36HP engine. Early 356 engines use VW engine cases and later use the three piece engine case.

 

Below is the 356 engine and note all of these engines can be interchanged without any problems. See how the Porsche engine is in-between the two VW engines.

 

The 1200"A" model was offered in Europe and Canada only. Here is a brochure for the Canada 1200 "A" Custom;

 

My 65 1200"A" was picked up at Wolfsburg in January 1965 and driven through Europe for a month, serviced in the south of Germany for it's first oil change and valve adjustment ( 600 mile service ) then brought back to Wolfsburg factory serviced again for the 1500 mile service and VW arranged to ship it on the VW factory ship to Long Beach Ca. where it was reunited with it's original owner. I bought the car from the original owner 53 years ago.

It's still a numbers matching car, I rebuilt the engine in 1972 while I was a unit repair mechanic ( engine and transaxle mechanic) for a VW dealership in Redondo Beach Ca. I painted it in it's original Seablau color in 1973 in my driveway.

   

Note the car on the rt. of my 65 is a friends 1966 40HP Type 115 ( 1200"A" Ragtop sunroof )- deluxe models got a steel sliding sunroof starting in 1964.

[8E45E]

5 hours ago, Pfeil said:

Craig, The 1200"A" Custom model was imported to Canada. The only difference from a Euro Standard Custom and Canadian 1200"A" is the European model stays with Franz Reimspiess original design architecture 36 HP engine and Canadian's get the new 40HP engine.

My fresh air 1965 36 HP engine;

 

The 1200"A" model was offered in Europe and Canada only. Here is a brochure for the Canada 1200 "A" Custom;

 

 

Canada was in interesting market for VW, and those 1200'A' models were, and are quite rare.  The Type 3 Notchback was imported to Canada, as was the  Karmann Ghia Type 34.

 

There is equipment US Beetles have that is not normally seen on Canadian market Beetles, including swing out rear quarter windows.

 

Craig

Edited April 16, 2021 by 8E45E (see edit history)

[Pfeil]

There is equipment US Beetles have that is not normally seen on Canadian market Beetles, including swing out rear quarter windows.

 

U.S or any other country never had swing out windows. They were a dealer installed factory option in the U.S. and Europe. Can't imagine Canada didn't have these.

[8E45E]

VW of Canada tried to keep a low price point to be competitive with the popular British sedans and wagons which had sovereign (no duty) import status at the time, hence the availability of low-price offerings, including the Beetle 1200A to provide a low advertised price.  

 

Incidently, it was Studebaker of Canada who helped VW of Canada keep prices down by importing new cars and Type 2's though them from Germany to save some on paying full duty.  As per Stu Chapman, Studebaker's advertising director of the time, stated Studebaker of Canada used its status as a Canadian manufacturer to take advantage of lower import duties than a Canadian importer. Studebaker was able to import Volkswagens from Germany and sell them to Volkswagen of Canada at a lower cost to Volkswagen and Studebaker was still able to make $150 on each car imported.   

 

As per Automotive News:  Automotive News - Stude's Import of VWs Stirs Hassle In Canada - Studebaker Drivers Club Forum

 

Craig

Edited April 26, 2021 by 8E45E (see edit history)

[Marty Roth]

For Volkswagen products offered in the British Empire,

the alternative product was a "Mr Tea",

as advertized by Father Guido Sarducci on Saturday Night Live.

 

You placed a filter with tea leaves into a funnel,

and poured boiled water into it-

hopefully not while driving your VW over British Backroads.

 

And you had to pour left-handed while driving on the right side of the car and left side of the road,

but couldn't shift at the same time.

Edited April 19, 2021 by Marty Roth (see edit history)

[padgett]

Seems simple to me, just fill the w/s washer reservoir and reroute the hose.

[8E45E]

2 hours ago, padgett said:

Seems simple to me, just fill the w/s washer reservoir and reroute the hose.

Then you'll let all the air out of the spare tire!

 

Craig

[Paul Dobbin]

Custom & Standard are both new terms to me.  Stationed in Germany1965-1967, all we heard was German & Export VW's.  A few guys in my unit bought

new VW's in 1966.  One bought the Geman edition and the other bought the Export edition an took it home.  I drove a 1957 Porsche Speedster 1600N while there and the USAF shipped it home for me becuse it was sold new in Texas and imported to Germany by another Air Force guy.   Just before he left for Vietnam it was stolen and the insurance paid for it.   He was shot down in Vietnam, then the car was recovered and sold to a German Police Investigator who could not title it in Germany without paying the road tax 1957 to 1965.  My Iucky day was when I found it for sale.   I drove it 2 years in Europe and then 2 years in America.  Over the Alps, Austria, Paris and the Rhine River valley then the beaches of west Florida and the full length of the Blue Ridge Parkway.   

It joined a long list of cars I wish I had never sold.   20 years later I had fiberglass replica Speedster with a 1600 VW engine.   Just NOT THE SAME!

10 VW's later I still drive my 66 VW Export Beetle with radial tires, I call it my high performance German Sports Sedan here in the Smoky Mountains.

[MochetVelo]

I looked on eBay under "Automobile coffee maker" and found dozens. They mostly work off the 12v cigarette lighter plug. The one in this thread is a nicer design, however. A coffee maker would make your car smell nice, but most people probably smoked a cig along with it.

 

Phil

 

 

[8E45E]

21 minutes ago, Paul Dobbin said:

Custom & Standard are both new terms to me.  

I doubt its 'new' to you.  Starting in 1971, they got different chassis, and in 1973, bodies.  The more upmarket of the two became the Super Beetle with McPherson strut front suspension (with increased front luggage space, and a curved windshield with a redesigned dash starting in 1973.  The Standard Beetle was still available.

 

Craig

[Pfeil]

2 hours ago, 8E45E said:

I doubt its 'new' to you.  Starting in 1971, they got different chassis, and in 1973, bodies.  The more upmarket of the two became the Super Beetle with McPherson strut front suspension (with increased front luggage space, and a curved windshield with a redesigned dash starting in 1973.  The Standard Beetle was still available.

 

Craig

First two years of Super Beetle 71-72 (also called in Europe a 1302 ) use the flat windshield, Their bodies are new and extended, in 73 the curved one appears.

1974 is the last 6volt beetle in Europe, it's called the 1200"L" 

Edited April 16, 2021 by Pfeil (see edit history)

[padgett]

I remember Beetles and Super Beetles but that is all. Then there was the type 3 and type 4 version with almost enough performance. I had a '70 type 2 Westphalia with dual port 1600 and RVEECO cooler. Still had drum brakes though.

[Pfeil]

9 minutes ago, padgett said:

I remember Beetles and Super Beetles but that is all. Then there was the type 3 and type 4 version with almost enough performance. I had a '70 type 2 Westphalia with dual port 1600 and RVEECO cooler. Still had drum brakes though.

Yes, you were too early. The type2 gets front disc in 1971 and if you waited another year you would get the type 4 engine, in fact 1972 is the only year the type 4 engine in the bus is dual carbureted, beginning in 73 they will be FI.

[padgett]

Story of my life. Spent a half century on the "bleeding edge" with few things "production".

[KdFwagen]

Does anybody remember the VW option (aftermarket) pulley, and rope with T handle? The pulley attached to the engine Pulley and you would be able to pull start the motor with the rope and T handle just like starting up an old lawn mover. My friend Rich had one and would do demonstrations of starting the car up this way on his 59 beetle at car shows.

[Pfeil]

9 minutes ago, KdFwagen said:

Does anybody remember the VW option (aftermarket) pulley, and rope with T handle? The pulley attached to the engine Pulley and you would be able to pull start the motor with the rope and T handle just like starting up an old lawn mover. My friend Rich had one and would do demonstrations of starting the car up this way on his 59 beetle at car shows.

Nope, just the factory equipped which came in every early Beetle. busses, kubelwagen, schwimmwagen  too.

 

 

26 minutes ago, KdFwagen said:

Does anybody remember the VW option (aftermarket) pulley, and rope with T handle? The pulley attached to the engine Pulley and you would be able to pull start the motor with the rope and T handle just like starting up an old lawn mover. My friend Rich had one and would do demonstrations of starting the car up this way on his 59 beetle at car shows.

Non factory;

[8E45E]

32 minutes ago, KdFwagen said:

Does anybody remember the VW option (aftermarket) pulley, and rope with T handle? The pulley attached to the engine Pulley and you would be able to pull start the motor with the rope and T handle just like starting up an old lawn mover. My friend Rich had one and would do demonstrations of starting the car up this way on his 59 beetle at car shows.

Yes, I have seen that done at car shows here, of a Beetle owner performing a 'rope start' when crowds were around.

 

Craig

[padgett]

" schwimmwagen" Did it come with a cork ?

[Pfeil]

Just a shovel, a paddle, and a MG42 or 34 machine gun and can carry a number of Panzerfaust anti tank weapons.

shovel and paddle on side

 

 

on the other side;

Edited April 18, 2021 by Pfeil (see edit history)

[8E45E]

1 hour ago, padgett said:

" schwimmwagen" Did it come with a cork ?

Nope! Not even an option!!