1937hd45 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Found this gem on a google search for something else. HUGE gas lights on a 1915 T Cabriolet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E. Guitar Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 A few articles on the Aerosable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 5 hours ago, 1937hd45 said: Found this gem on a google search for something else. HUGE gas lights on a 1915 T Cabriolet. Known as a "Coupelet" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Dave Mellor NJ said: Known as a "Coupelet" Thanks Dave, Here is a factory brochure photo of one. There is an unrestored Center Door Sedan somewhere in New Jersey. Bob Edited June 26, 2022 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 At first glance I thought the car might be a Stutz but it has the wrong number of hood louvres and the rear hubs don't match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Lots to look at here, including the Pennsylvania Vacuum Cup tires. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 10:04 AM, twin6 said: 1902 White Elephant. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob McAnlis Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1912 Stearns Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 18 hours ago, twin6 said: Lots to look at here, including the Pennsylvania Vacuum Cup tires. Notice the spare is on the style of clincher rim that is in two interlocking halves. You twist the rim to unlock the tabs and seperate the two halves. An interesting design that didn't seem to get much market share. I seem to recall they were made by Continental , the European tire company, but I may be mistaken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nzcarnerd Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Posted by Keith Raedel on a facebook page. His grandmother washing her dad's car. I can't pick the make but it has full floating rear axles and looks to have a gap in the hood louvres. Other features - the paired pads on the top rail of the body, the three piece rear window, and the carrier bracket for the top when folded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted June 29, 2022 Author Share Posted June 29, 2022 Wonderful photo of the sight seeing bus of the Fraternity of Derby, Homburg, and Fedora Hat wearers Association Ltd. Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian_pt Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) A Stutz behind the Iron Curtain, in 1970s Bucharest. The car, a stalwart of films and parades of the era, was exported after 1990 and is now as it appears in Photo 3. Edited June 29, 2022 by adrian_pt (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted June 29, 2022 Author Share Posted June 29, 2022 Pierce Arrow in a sales piece from Brunn of Buffalo, NY. coach builder from 1924. Brunn's description notes it is a Special six passenger Landaulet body. that means the portion of the roof just aft of the rear door could be folded down for fair weather motoring and the occupants could be seen by all on the street as they passed by. Photo taken in Buffalo, NY. The car was mounted on a 48 horsepower chassis and was built for A.H. Schoellkopf of Buffalo. Note the car has wire wheels and front bumper and pair of rear mounted spare tires. Also note the spare tires, one has a heavy tread the other the smoother tread. Heavier tread was used on the rear tires for more traction, smoother ones on the front. Another thing about cars in this era that had to be taken into consideration that is little thought about or mentioned today. Since the Pierce Arrow Society had its annual affair in California last week I thought this would be appropriate . Maybe even a special treat for Ed and George( Grimy) two of my good friends. Walt 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Walt G said: Pierce Arrow in a sales piece from Brunn of Buffalo, NY. coach builder from 1924. Brunn's description notes it is a Special six passenger Landaulet body. that means the portion of the roof just aft of the rear door could be folded down for fair weather motoring and the occupants could be seen by all on the street as they passed by. Photo taken in Buffalo, NY. The car was mounted on a 48 horsepower chassis and was built for A.H. Schoellkopf of Buffalo. Note the car has wire wheels and front bumper and pair of rear mounted spare tires. Also note the spare tires, one has a heavy tread the other the smoother tread. Heavier tread was used on the rear tires for more traction, smoother ones on the front. Another thing about cars in this era that had to be taken into consideration that is little thought about or mentioned today. Since the Pierce Arrow Society had its annual affair in California last week I thought this would be appropriate . Maybe even a special treat for Ed and George( Grimy) two of my good friends. Walt Thanks, Walt, but a 1924 model would be a Series 33 with a 415 cid dual valve six with a single cast iron block casting mounted on an aluminum crankcase, vs the Series 48's 525 cid 6-cyl engine, last used in the 1919-20 Series 51 with cylinder jugs cast in pairs and mounted on an aluminum crankcase. Many find the Series 33 4-passenger touring the most attractive body style of that era, and four of the six known extant were at our Buellton CA meet last week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted June 29, 2022 Author Share Posted June 29, 2022 I took my information from the caption under the photograph of the car that Brunn printed in the catalog. My "guess" is that they showed a photo of a car that they had built but not necessarily current to when the sales catalog was printed.. They also show in the same catalog another 6 passenger landaulet" that looks more like an open front town car. posed in the same location and it too is noted as being mounted on a 48 horsepower chassis. I date the catalog from a letter in there that was reprinted dated December 11, 1923 and was from aviator pioneer Glenn H. Curtiss about a Cadillac town car they built for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 The 48 chassis was 142" wb and 1918-20 used 35x5 tires. The Series 32 (1921), Series 33 (1922-mid-1926) were on 138" wb and until balloon tires were fitted mid-1924 also used 35x5 tires. From the scale of the whole car, I think it's Series 33 but could be the problematical Series 32 that PAMCC wanted to forget about (economies forced on the company by NYC bankers, quickly reversed for 1922 after those "economies" cost a LOT of money to correct). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted June 29, 2022 Author Share Posted June 29, 2022 George, this is all most interesting and educational to those of us who aren't astute as to what P-A had on offer nor the specifications. It is why I feel so good about this thread and the interest here after 2+ years seems not to falter. It makes all of us think and in doing so remember and appreciate what was done a century + ago. Some reading may think - this is just obscure information about odd cars BUT I love that. It is all stuff that you are not going to find on line in an encyclopedia - you have to come here to the AACA Forums the greatest resource for all vehicles that are very accurate ( if not some one will provide the correct information or observation!) It also proves how AACA is a leading resource of history , which sometimes needs to be reinforced to the state, national, etc historic commissions, departments, and other grand potentates of the realm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 5 hours ago, Walt G said: Pierce Arrow in a sales piece from Brunn of Buffalo, NY. coach builder from 1924. Brunn's description notes it is a Special six passenger Landaulet body. that means the portion of the roof just aft of the rear door could be folded down for fair weather motoring and the occupants could be seen by all on the street as they passed by. Photo taken in Buffalo, NY. The car was mounted on a 48 horsepower chassis and was built for A.H. Schoellkopf of Buffalo. Note the car has wire wheels and front bumper and pair of rear mounted spare tires. Also note the spare tires, one has a heavy tread the other the smoother tread. Heavier tread was used on the rear tires for more traction, smoother ones on the front. Another thing about cars in this era that had to be taken into consideration that is little thought about or mentioned today. Since the Pierce Arrow Society had its annual affair in California last week I thought this would be appropriate . Maybe even a special treat for Ed and George( Grimy) two of my good friends. Walt Brunn photographed many of their custom-bodied cars in front of Albright-Know Art Gallery in Delaware Park not far from their 980 Ellicott Street offices and factory. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 I guess the car is American but I don't recognise the logo on the hubcaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E. Guitar Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 11 hours ago, nzcarnerd said: I guess the car is American but I don't recognise the logo on the hubcaps. 1926 Hudson Super Six? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Here's a better look at the carwash and the "Fraternity of Derby, Homburg, and Fedora Hat wearers Association Ltd. Inc." Tip of the hat to Walt G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Walt G Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 That looks like it is the Flat Iron Building in the rear of the photo. One of my favorite buildings and areas of Manhattan - New York City The great Strand book store is just a few blocks south of here ( you are looking south in the photo) . And Gramercy Park Typewriter service is not far away ( they restore manual typewriters - do a lot of work for actor Tom Hanks) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 23 Skidoo! History? Or legend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 coachbuilt Nash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, alsancle said: coachbuilt Nash? YES......European work. Fairly attractive. Unusual but pleasant look. Edited July 1, 2022 by edinmass (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, edinmass said: YES......European work. Fairly attractive. Unusual but pleasant look. Looks like a 34 Ambassador chassis to me. That would be a cool concours car. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Classy last rides. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Ed: Any identification of the European coachbuilder? Very Teutonic in design ethic. Does the coachbuilder plate give any clue? Definitely a 1934 Nash Ambassador Eight Series 1290, either a 133" or 142" wheelbase. Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Early wishes for all to have a safe and happy 4th of July. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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58L-Y8 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Looks to have been July 4th in 1907 in Pennsylvania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarfudd Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 How was that engine cooled, and did it run cool in the parade with the airflow all blocked with flags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 13 hours ago, alsancle said: Looks like a 34 Ambassador chassis to me. That would be a cool concours car. Here is a chiefs car before the lettering, guess the rear fender skit fitment is stock. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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