NC-car-guy Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 1 minute ago, avgwarhawk said: Live and learn. I read up on the Evapo Rust. Seems to be quite good at rust removal. I'm interested in seeing it perform as advertised. It is great, I've used it plenty. I've just never used it in an engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYER15015 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) NC, Don't be in a hurry with the Evapo. Give it a couple of days to "cook". Evapo goes in looking like mountain dew, and when it's done working it looks like old oil. It will not hurt brass or aluminum ! Make that old girl go thru several heat / cool cycles and get it circulating all thru the system. Not to scare you, but mine worked so good, I wound up replacing a couple of frost plugs, and when I peered inside, she was as clean as a whistle, radiator too. Mike in Colorado PS; In case Lamar drops by, the good old days................ If this came with it, I would buy your car at full price. Edited May 13, 2020 by FLYER15015 (see edit history) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Buick Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Could the hose - panty hose, that is - be a restrictor in the coolant flow enough to cause your cooling issues? Regardless, it seems like a very good idea you are getting that junk out! Keep up the process until you see a lot less gunk. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 If so, it is still better than having all that crud stuck in the radiator tubes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-car-guy Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 7 hours ago, FLYER15015 said: NC, Don't be in a hurry with the Evapo. Give it a couple of days to "cook". Evapo goes in looking like mountain dew, and when it's done working it looks like old oil. It will not hurt brass or aluminum ! Make that old girl go thru several heat / cool cycles and get it circulating all thru the system. Not to scare you, but mine worked so good, I wound up replacing a couple of frost plugs, and when I peered inside, she was as clean as a whistle, radiator too. Mike in Colorado it has all new freeze plugs 😁. Can't remember who but it was at that time that somebody gave me the procedure for which freeze plug to remove and insert a pressure washer to flush the engine. I did that and lots of gunk came out... I didn't think there was lots more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEarl Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Fr. Buick said: Could the hose - panty hose, that is - be a restrictor in the coolant flow enough to cause your cooling issues? Regardless, it seems like a very good idea you are getting that junk out! Keep up the process until you see a lot less gunk. what Father said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-car-guy Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 The filter shouldn't be so restrictive as to cause issue (unless of course the filter is clogged) I cleared a little out this AM and then ran the car for 30 more minutes. I'll clean the filter and run it again this afternoon. Once the solution turns black, it has dissolved and bonded with all the rust it can and will be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Fr. Buick said: Could the hose - panty hose, that is - be a restrictor in the coolant flow enough to cause your cooling issues? Regardless, it seems like a very good idea you are getting that junk out! Keep up the process until you see a lot less gunk. I would also concur. The panty hose are filtering as hoped but eventually gets clogged. That is quite a bit of crap caught by the hosiery. That is a good problem to have as it is not going into the radiator. Keep on going with it. Rinse and repeat like the shampoo bottle says. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Refresh my memory since I am too lazy to read again your previous posts: How was the radiator cleaned? If anything less than a new core or rodding the existing core then it is totally ineffective! Boiling and flushing will do nothing if clogged tubes are present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-car-guy Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, old-tank said: Refresh my memory since I am too lazy to read again your previous posts: How was the radiator cleaned? If anything less than a new core or rodding the existing core then it is totally ineffective! Boiling and flushing will do nothing if clogged tubes are present. Just boiled. Metal was too brittle for rodding. The shop did a flow check though and reported that it was fine. Remember the car runs fine and then suddenly spiked. Was not running hot until one given moment. Edited May 13, 2020 by NC-car-guy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 I have been accused of being real good at spending other people's money, but get a new core or radiator. 5 minutes ago, NC-car-guy said: Metal was too brittle for rodding That is not a reason for not rodding, just a common excuse. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-car-guy Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, old-tank said: I have been accused of being real good at spending other people's money, but get a new core or radiator. That is not a reason for not rodding, just a common excuse. Why would the shop tell me it had good flow if they could sell me a new core? They came highly recommended and have been in business since the 70s. He already had to fix 2 small holes so it seemed the metal was weak. Fine for you to suggest new radiator and spend others money but this guy is out of money. If the shop said the flow is good, it's good. Edited May 13, 2020 by NC-car-guy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-car-guy Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 30 minute run this AM full of Evaporust, very little in the filter. 30 minute run tonight, still full of evaporust, very little particulate. Will keep running and checking filter. No overheat since thermostat is out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-car-guy Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 I have now done three rounds of evapo rust flushing.... Last round the water came out pretty clean and little to no debris in the filter. Filled it up with plain water let it run and get warm, let it cool, drained that it was also pretty clear with no debris in the filter. Repeated one more plain water rinse and now flushing with blue devil flush. Car has been running for 30 minutes in the driveway and the needle is staying exactly at the n on the temperature gauge. Still running no thermostat. Temp readings are: Water neck: 180 Temp sender area: 159 Front of heads in front of 1st intake port: 190s Front of engine block: 160 Intake near carb base: 132 very front or rear: 180s Exhaust manifold at each exhaust port 279-290 Not sure I can get my little laser pointer thermometer to point at anything else. .... Thoughts? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYER15015 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 NC, So now I think we have another fan of Evap-o-rust !!!! Mike in Colorado PS; Keep your eye on the expansion plugs for awhile. Ask me how I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-car-guy Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 Just now, FLYER15015 said: NC, So now I think we have another fan of Evap-o-rust !!!! Mike in Colorado PS; Keep your eye on the expansion plugs for awhile. Ask me how I know. Oh I've been a fan. Just never put it in an engine. Expansion plugs are all new, freshly replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYER15015 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Good. Mine were new in 1940. Mike 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Throw the t-stat in and drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-car-guy Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, avgwarhawk said: Throw the t-stat in and drive. I dunno about that yet. Not sure how many free tows I get. Edited May 21, 2020 by NC-car-guy (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, NC-car-guy said: I dunno about that yet. Not sure how many free hows I get. Drive it around the block. Close to home. 🙃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEarl Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 You may want to try one of the high performance tstats. They seem to maintain a more constant, ie less fluctuating temperature and they're never fully closed. Worked for me in the wagon. https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Gasket-4364-Performance-Thermostat/dp/B000BWAPA2/ref=psdc_15725471_t1_B075P27Q83 I'm thinking this is what I went with https://www.summitracing.com/parts/bra-330-180?rrec=true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 How goes it with Buttercup? Is she cool as a cucumber or hot as a tamales? Asking for a friend who wants nothing but success with this resurrection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-car-guy Posted May 24, 2020 Author Share Posted May 24, 2020 12 hours ago, avgwarhawk said: How goes it with Buttercup? Is she cool as a cucumber or hot as a tamales? Asking for a friend who wants nothing but success with this resurrection! Sidetracked with a family project In Philly this weekend... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-car-guy Posted June 4, 2020 Author Share Posted June 4, 2020 5th and final flush. Water running clear. Installed 160 thermostat. Stayed under the N the whole drive to foodlion...about 3 miles. at the stoplight just before the store it started at the climb just a little bit above the N. when I parked water neck was reading 209. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Good to go! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-car-guy Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 I'll try driving to work tomorrow...thats 10 miles. We'll see. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosage Chavis Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Glad to hear! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-car-guy Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) I just noticed it cut off half my post. But the return trip was the same. Needle went to the same spot while idling in the driveway. Also no test drive today. They are forecasting rain. Edited June 5, 2020 by NC-car-guy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 10 hours ago, NC-car-guy said: I'll try driving to work tomorrow...thats 10 miles. We'll see. Let's us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 3 hours ago, NC-car-guy said: I just noticed it cut off half my post. But the return trip was the same. Needle went to the same spot while idling in the driveway. Also no test drive today. They are forecasting rain. Recommend keeping your filter in place. Mine has been in the car since 2003 and here it is after the last 240 miles of mostly highway speed travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 3 hours ago, NC-car-guy said: I just noticed it cut off half my post. But the return trip was the same. Needle went to the same spot while idling in the driveway. Also no test drive today. They are forecasting rain. Buicks love the rain. They run better. I never could explain why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-car-guy Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, avgwarhawk said: Buicks love the rain. They run better. I never could explain why. Ha ha ha. Wipers arent working yet and the driver's door seal is leaky... pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Live on the edge! Well we do with drum brakes....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Drum brakes... Mine sound more like a Violin. 😀 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 48 minutes ago, Bill Stoneberg said: Drum brakes... Mine sound more like a Violin. 😀 I'm here to 5. Try the veal. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-car-guy Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 Glad I didn't drive it to work this morning. Wouldn't have made it. Apparently 3 miles is its limit. I went to food lion again. Same result...just above N when I got there. Stayed just above N on the ride home so I decided to run another 6 mile loop. She started climbing. Just as I pulled in the driveway it was creeping towards H and then started puking fro. The over flow. I know I've threatened but seriously...... I'm into this car for almost the top of what its worth now. We've all gotten pay cuts at work. I just want to relax. I want an old car I can ride around town without worrying too much and I want a little boat to fish on the lake. I'm going to clean her up tomorrow and get photos to post online. You guys have first crack. Hopefully someone with more time and money can get her to that next level and win the archival. I might make the sale contingent on everything in the parts building must go with.....😛😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEarl Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Are you sure that sock filter things not clogged and restricting flow. You should at least try one of the high flow 180* thermostats that I suggested earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-car-guy Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, MrEarl said: Are you sure that sock filter things not clogged and restricting flow. You should at least try one of the high flow 180* thermostats that I suggested earlier. I checked the panty hose... Clear. I need to get out of debt, drop the stressful job, fix up my house and have a dependable old beater to drive around. I know your love for the car. You're welcome to have it back at what I paid and I'll take the loss. If you know someone you think would be a good caretaker, feel free to recommend them. I'm tired, I'm over-worked, I'm aging beyond my 40 years. I need a relaxing hobby. Men in my family don't live past mid-sixties (except one), I want to use my time for something else. Edited June 5, 2020 by NC-car-guy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 You have done just about everything I can think of but... just for craps and giggles, the fan is on correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-car-guy Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, avgwarhawk said: You have done just about everything I can think of but... just for craps and giggles, the fan is on correctly? Yea and that 5 blade fan really.moves air! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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