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How buttercup got her groove back

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1 minute ago, avgwarhawk said:

It's alive!!!

Massive lifter tap... And it's running crappy, but it's running.

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1 minute ago, NC-car-guy said:

Massive lifter tap... And it's running crappy, but it's running.

 

Lifters need to fill with oil. Start it and run up the RPM for a good while. When I replaced the rings, heads rebuilt and new lifters installed I started and ran the motor as if it was a camshaft break-in.  It clatters like hell for a bit but as the lifters each filled the quieter it got. 

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Had to do one last thing before starting... Drop the gas tank.

Look at that pickup tube...

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17 hours ago, NC-car-guy said:

Had to do one last thing before starting... Drop the gas tank.

Look at that pickup tube...

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Not much of a float either...:rolleyes:

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That would be a brass float with a groove to clip in at one end. Ford only recently discontinued them. Gm probably discontinued long ago, but they were used in Chevy trucks, so a Chevy truck vendor should have it if Bob's Automobilia doesn't. I was holding a bad one in my hand just yesterday that came from a 1960 Chevy 1/2 ton.

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38 minutes ago, old-tank said:

 

 

Not much of a float either...:rolleyes:

Lol. It was there. Full of holes and id removed it.  Luckily I had a couple sending units in my bin..

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I hope its just lifter tick! That does not sound ideal at all. I can't remember, did you open the engine up prior to this?

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Took the heads off and put head gaskets on it while I had it out.  Remember......  13k motor that was running fine 12 years ago.  I didn't touch the bottom end. Oil was clean...

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Man!  It never gets old hearing any of these engines running.  So glad you got yours running Matt.  I know you'll work out the kinks.

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1 hour ago, NC-car-guy said:

Took the heads off and put head gaskets on it while I had it out.  Remember......  13k motor that was running fine 12 years ago.  I didn't touch the bottom end. Oil was clean...

It sounds to me some lifters need to fill with oil to me. 

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So it's been driving me crazy and I had to come home at lunch and start her up. I let her warm up and then revved it and it is quieted way down there's still one tiny tick that hopefully will work out and an exhaust leak at the muffler.  

 

Also. As two previous owners ago had installed a rear speaker I need the rear speaker switch to be correct. I found one but not sure where to locate this.

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7 minutes ago, Elpad said:

Maybe in the radio knob shaft?

What? The rear speaker switch is a totally separate switch not mounted to the radio directly.

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I’ve got a template I can scan and email you if not in a hurry. 

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It’s approximately as is in the first picture. The small and large series are different fitment, does that one fit the curvature at that point? 

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4 minutes ago, MrEarl said:

I’ve got a template I can scan and email you if not in a hurry. 

Great thanks.

2 minutes ago, MrEarl said:

It’s approximately as is in the first picture. The small and large series are different fitment, does that one fit the curvature at that point? 

Yes it does.

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1 hour ago, NC-car-guy said:

driving me crazy and I had to come home at lunch and start her up.

What took you so long?  Best to do that before breakfast.;)

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19 minutes ago, old-tank said:

What took you so long?  Best to do that before breakfast.;)

Not a morning person!

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On 11/18/2019 at 5:31 PM, NC-car-guy said:

Took the heads off and put head gaskets on it while I had it out.  Remember......  13k motor that was running fine 12 years ago.  I didn't touch the bottom end. Oil was clean...

 

Great thread and nice work getting her running........

 

I’ve some good luck over the years waking up engines that have not run in decades.

If you still have an irksome tick or tap..... drain that warm up oil, change filter (inspect the can and filter for

metallic stuff).  Refill with 4 qt.s of lighter weight oil and one quart of either Marvel Mystery oil

or an engine cleaning solvent like Rislone.   Get it up to operating temperature and vary the rpms up and down

for a good amount of time.   Shut it off let the oil drain back into pan, then do it again.

 

Then drain that concoction and refill with your favorite oil.   Some times a bit of solvent with lighter oil can free up

sticky lifters ;  even tho it was low mileage....... 12 years of sitting can cause those microscopic orifices in lifters

clog up a bit.

Im certainly no advocate of “repairs in a can” but this has worked for me on several long dead  project cars over the years.

One particularly irksome Studebaker V8 gave up the fight after I used 4 qts. of 10 weight mixed with........ready for this

one qt. of Liquid Wrench.   After getting it good and hot and winging it a few times.......settled right in .

 

my 2 cents...... Great work!,

 

 

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I let her warm up and then revved it and it is quieted way down there's still one tiny tick that hopefully will work out

 

 

It should work it's way out.  Mine will tick/tap when its a cold start at one cylinder even after the heads were done,, new lifters and new rings.  Once it warms it is silent. Strangest thing really.  The internals expand as each warms up.  Tick/tap gone.   Thing is...that tick/tap was there when I bought the Buick.  Still there after a minor rebuild.  Never caused any problems.  It does not implode or explode.  It just runs.  

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My "solvent of choice is a quart of ATF  Had a car once that a certain lifter would start to tick.  Removed the filter, drained and reinstalled it, and added a quart of ATF.  I'd drive it for a few days till the ticking went away and do an oil change.  Just doing an oil change would not get rid of the ticking.  Something internally just needed a good cleaning.  When my dad was mechanicing, one of the guys with whom he worked would add a quart of kerosene to the crankcase before an oil change. Boy did that produce some dirty oil.  New oil and  filter and at the next oil change, the old oil was clean.

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Put the car on jack stands; go over the adjustment procedure in the service manual again and the trouble shooting portion; if no joy disconnect the linkage at the transmission and move it through the range as a test (don' go back to the Park position with the wheels turning.)

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5 minutes ago, old-tank said:

Put the car on jack stands; go over the adjustment procedure in the service manual again and the trouble shooting portion; if no joy disconnect the linkage at the transmission and move it through the range as a test (don' go back to the Park position with the wheels turning.)

I'll give it a go....   

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