edinmass Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Here is a shot of a Passport truck burning on the side of the road. Not a pretty sight. No details were available as to contents, some appear to have made it out to some extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Photo won't load, try a google news search to see photos of it going up, and being unloaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazA Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Wow... http://wkrn.com/2016/02/15/trailer-fire-closes-i-65-in-williamson-county/ Hard to tell in picture, but if in fact the trailer tires, I wonder if they had tire pressure monitoring system on the trailer, like http://tsttruck.com/or others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_padavano Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Wow... http://wkrn.com/2016/02/15/trailer-fire-closes-i-65-in-williamson-county/ Hard to tell in picture, but if in fact the trailer tires, I wonder if they had tire pressure monitoring system on the trailer, like http://tsttruck.com/or others? More likely the cause was overheated brakes or bearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Looks like they did a good job of keeping it contained. Looks like a 50's chevy truck right where the fire was centered. I wonder how that one faired? Is that the back of a fairly new Vette might have gotten scorched. Edited February 17, 2016 by auburnseeker (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I'm less inclined to believe it's an equipment failure in the truck and more likely to believe that an electrical short or fuel problem in one of the cars is to blame. I keep every car in the shop stored with its battery disconnected for just this reason. You never know what's lurking inside the wires of an old car--usually it's smoke, but sometimes it's fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass is Best Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Passport Is the best in the business. Accidents happen and that is what insurance is for. Next time I need a car moved I will be calling Passport! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 We witnessed a similar incident 5 years ago and it was exactly as suggested above. A short in the electrical system of a car being transported. With a bona fide company like Passport it will be handled very professionally. Wayne Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Just wondering what the "Rules of the Road" are in a case like this, unhook the tractor and let the load burn once you know everything is a total loss? Bob Edited February 17, 2016 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 Any old car can catch fire at any time. That being said it sure looks like a wheel or brake issue from the photo shown. I am sure there there is insurance. Most people would rather have their toy than a check. Accidents do happen, I wonder if they will ever get to the actual cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Just wondering what the "Rules of the Road" are in a case like this, unhook the tractor and let the load burn once you know everything is a total loss? BobI would hope they do whatever is safe for the people and make the load a lesser priority. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K8096 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) I would think it would be a self imposed rule for these antique auto carriers that once a car is loaded, the battery be disconnected for safety. Modern cars have electrical fires all the time. I agree with Ed though, it looks like the trailer wheels/brakes are engulfed in flames. Edited February 18, 2016 by K8096 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I imagine disconnecting the truck would be standard if possible. Imagine how much more of an incident and danger it would be when it burned to the tractor and then the fuel tanks as well as 8 more tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazA Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I would think it would be a self imposed rule for these antique auto carriers that once a car is loaded, the battery be disconnected for safety. Modern cars have electrical fires all the time. I agree with Ed though, it looks like the trailer wheels/brakes are engulfed in flames. Agree. Anytime I've had a car transported, battery always disconnected. Good point above on bearing/brake possibility too based on location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curti Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Heat rises. That is either a brake or a wheel bearing malfunction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Heat rises. That is either a brake or a wheel bearing malfunction. My opinion as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest newbymachineworks Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 My opinion as well.I will third that. S cam on the brake probably went over center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2dameron Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I have to wonder why the side door on the trailer is open. I was taught in fire fighting school that if were called to the scene of a burning automobile and the hood, doors, or trunk lid was open, it was probably arson and the doors, etc. were open to let more oxygen in so the entire vehicle would burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAD THOMAS Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I agree on either brakes/ tire or bearings. with this being on the drivers side I would call into question the drivers attentiveness.If it was brakes he should have felt the drag, if it was the tire he should have seen it smoking before it caught. if it was wheel bearings who is not maintaining the equipment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) I have to wonder why the side door on the trailer is open. I was taught in fire fighting school that if were called to the scene of a burning automobile and the hood, doors, or trunk lid was open, it was probably arson and the doors, etc. were open to let more oxygen in so the entire vehicle would burn. What a totally outlandish and defamatory statement! Do you suppose the driver went for a fire extinguisher and that is why the door was open ? Wayne Edited February 19, 2016 by AlCapone (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I agree on either brakes/ tire or bearings. with this being on the drivers side I would call into question the drivers attentiveness.If it was brakes he should have felt the drag, if it was the tire he should have seen it smoking before it caught. if it was wheel bearings who is not maintaining the equipment?The problem with this line of thinking is like in the case of my Vette. Underhood engine fire. Hard to put out if you don't get the hood up atleast enough to access it. Mine was an electrical fire so yes the doors were open to to access where it was burning through the firewall. I would be more suspicious if nothing was done as anyone who wants the thing destroyed walks away from it, not tries to put it out. I won't tell you how much black smoke I inhaled from the burning fibre glass wiring paint and rubber putting everything I could find including the neighbors garden hose on it. (until the Fire Department about 1 mile away showed up) Not knowing exactly what was burning at that point. I didn't figure out what happened until after it was put out. I originally thought must be a fuel fire or something as Fuelies are notorious for that and ethanol fuel (do I need to say more) Also if you were going to burn something I don't think you would pick the edge of a 4 lane highway where it would be spotted instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer09 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Used an insured company eight years ago for hauling a 1937 Buick from Cali to NJ recd a call 3 days in- was told my car burned up- thought it was a joke.................. it wasnt. Was told the transport co was insured for 300k and i would be fine. Owner refused to pay.Driver told me that he didnt disconnect the battery. He drove my car off, to get another car dropped. When he put my car back on, he believed the seat spring crossed the battery under the seat.The tow company demanded their tow payment and i told them I didnt want the burned out hull in my driveway.Long story short, it wasnt worth flying to FL to sue the haul company and the broker refused liability as well. the lesson in all of this-ALWAYS PUT INSURANCE ON YOUR VEHICLE BEFORE IT IS HAULED-you never know what might happen.Yes, I was screwed and an expensive lesson at that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Used an insured company eight years ago for hauling a 1937 Buick from Cali to NJ recd a call 3 days in- was told my car burned up- thought it was a joke.................. it wasnt. Was told the transport co was insured for 300k and i would be fine. Owner refused to pay.Driver told me that he didnt disconnect the battery. He drove my car off, to get another car dropped. When he put my car back on, he believed the seat spring crossed the battery under the seat.The tow company demanded their tow payment and i told them I didnt want the burned out hull in my driveway.Long story short, it wasnt worth flying to FL to sue the haul company and the broker refused liability as well. the lesson in all of this-ALWAYS PUT INSURANCE ON YOUR VEHICLE BEFORE IT IS HAULED-you never know what might happen.Yes, I was screwed and an expensive lesson at that!Had you engaged in civil litigation it is very likely that you would have been successful. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ShiftCraft Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Hi AACA folks, I am sad to report that one of my vehicles was on this transporter. It was a '65 Chevy C10, full rotisserie restoration on its way from North Carolina to my home in Reno. To say that I am sick over this would be a gross understatement. Here is a photo of the truck loading onto the transporter a little over a week ago. Awaiting news from Passport Transportation on the extent of the damage or if it's a total loss. Presently accepting all love and sympathy from any car lovers, also trying to find a silver lining in any of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MochetVelo Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 You definitely have our sympathy, Shiftcraft! Keep us informed as to what happens. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Hope they do right by you. I had a 66 Big back window short bed with a 454.( not perfect but very nice,) One of my favorite old vehicles to tool around in. I drove it everywhere on nice days. Lets hope the damage was limited and can be repaired.Good luck and please let us know how they handle it. I've used passport before coast to coast with very good results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBulldogMiller55Buick Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 There is nothing to be gained by leaving the tractor attached whether the contents can be saved or not..Likely , the driver had already expended his fire extinguisher, before he pulled the tractor away. If the fire started inside the trailer and burned through to the outside, a handheld fire extinguisher would be useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBulldogMiller55Buick Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 What a totally outlandish and defamatory statement! Do you suppose the driver went for a fire extinguisher and that is why the door was open ? WayneI agree Al.Fire fighters fight a fire from the inside out. They try push the fire away from what is not burning and toward what is burning and already burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ShiftCraft Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) Just received a few photos and, well, it's pretty bad. Edited February 20, 2016 by ShiftCraft (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) It's impossible to properly fix a burn vehicle, in my humble opinion. While not a total melt down, it would probably be best to take the payoff, as there should be no issue making you whole. Sad to see a nice truck go that way, but often time it's best to use your head in making a decision not ones heart to sort out a problem such as this. Good luck either way you go, Ed.PS. Sure looks like from both photos posted, it was a trailer issue that caused the fire. I am not familiar with heavy trailer service, but something either failed or was neglected. Most importantly, no one was injured. Edited February 20, 2016 by edinmass (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazA Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Just received a few photos and, well, it's pretty bad. Sorry to hear and see that . Please let us know if you hear anything on root cause, as it may help others (preventing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MochetVelo Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Bad luck. Looks like your truck was right by the burning rear wheels. I don't see why it couldn't be restored, however. Interestingly, if this truck was on the way to an AACA show, the judges couldn't deduct points for damage sustained en route! Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieF Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Our son in law is a professionnal fireman in Franklin, TN. I sent this to him and asked if he was on this job and how far from their house it was (they live just off of I-65). He said it was a couple of miles south of town and was handled by VFD. Said Interstate was closed in both directions for about eight hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 It does look quite as bad as I was expecting (taking things into consideration) but I would definitely want a chance of buying it back if I were you if it is a total loss or they give you enough that it makes it a no brainer to buy it. Looks like the worst of the destorting damage is to the door. That's alot easier to replace than the cab. Since it was an exterior fire you don't have the issues of a ton of hidden problems like with an electrical fire that gutted the inside of a vehicle. or under the hood. Ironically it looks like it didn't get to the fuel tank right behind the seat which I think has the fill on that side if I remember correctly. That is almost amazing as it's a vented cap. Good luck, sorry for the loss. You would be surprised what cleans up though (The pictures of my 60 Fuelie vette are on here somewhere) and may not need to be replaced especially if you had alot into the mechanical restoration which wouldn't be affected by the fire. Let us know how they treat you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2dameron Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 What a totally outlandish and defamatory statement! Do you suppose the driver went for a fire extinguisher and that is why the door was open ? WayneI could say the same thing about your first sentence. I think if you check you will find that truck drivers carry their extinguisher in the tractor cab instead of in the trailer. When you pass one on the interstate see if it does not carry the words on a small door, "fire extinguisher in here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) Here is one before and after.. All the rubber..plastic, glass and ,paint was replaced ... Edited February 20, 2016 by nick8086 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I could say the same thing about your first sentence. I think if you check you will find that truck drivers carry their extinguisher in the tractor cab instead of in the trailer. When you pass one on the interstate see if it does not carry the words on a small door, "fire extinguisher in here."Some do, all do not ! Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) The bumper still shows the stress from the heat... Edited February 20, 2016 by nick8086 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I would think they may have went for a second extinguisher in the trailer as well. I put a small a medium and a fairly large on my vette and the fire Department used a bunch more. You do what you can and it all happens real fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 PpI would think they may have went for a second extinguisher in the trailer as well. I put a small a medium and a fairly large on my vette and the fire Department used a bunch more. You do what you can and it all happens real fast.Obviously you are letting common sense prevail and are not being cynical. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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