Amphicar BUYER Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) 1964 Olds Starfire Convertible. Made some trades to find the $ and after some good luck trades, here she is!Very well appointed and with several RARE options such as cruise control, reverb, AC and others. She will get a sympathetic resto and made road-worthy as a mostly daily driver. Sat in storage for about 25 years. I'll remove all the after-market stuff and retain only the correct. Edited December 30, 2014 by Amphicar BUYER (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 NICE ride!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Nice car. The foot gas pedal has to go though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 John, if you are not aware of them Fusick Automotive have been a major source for us Olds guys for decades. They might have items you need. There are other very good Olds suppliers as well but just giving you a lead to one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Great choice! X2 on Fusick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curti Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 A factory installed re-verb unit! How cool is that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 How nice!! Even rarer is a Starfire with power ventipanes.Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodfiddler Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Like, like. Nice car John! Chuck in Kansas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Yaros Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Welcome to the Oldsmobile family. Hard to beat a rocket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I think I have one of those HEAVY cast wheel covers around in my pile of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhambulldog Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Very nice !Congratulations !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amphicar BUYER Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) I think I have one of those HEAVY cast wheel covers around in my pile of stuff.If it's an extra one, I'd be interested. Thanks for the great suggestions and good words! I've been an olds guy for a long time! I had a 64 Jetstar ragtop EXACTLY like my blue one below for about 25 years as a year round daily driver. Here are a couple others I have (does this make me a hoarder?)My 1964 Jetstar 88s (the blue one is not the 64 Starfire I mentioned earlier) and my girlfriend's 1970 Cutlass Supreme she rescued earlier this year from behind a fence. Edited January 2, 2015 by Amphicar BUYER (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Nice score! and super collection too. My two brothers are Olds guys and they did make nice cars. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhambulldog Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I had a '73 Olds conv 88 455 for 28 years. That was the most dependable car I ever owned. It never failed to get me where I was going. My Roadmaster is a close second, ... it's been on a tow truck four or five times in 45 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhambulldog Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 That photo of the interior looks like it's got the dealer installed four way flasher. (the red pull knob under the dash ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhambulldog Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 And automatic headlight dimmer , very nice ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Good score John. That's a pretty well loaded car for its time.Make sure you get an owner's manual for this thing, if for nothing else to explain how the motor-driven Cruise Control works- it's considerably different from modern vacuum and electronic units. Olds actually had a stand-alone sales brochure for the 1964 Cruise Control. Its cover said "An Oldsmobile accessory that gives you a thrill every time you use it!"The Flarestat could be a GM piece or an actual aftermarket Flarestat unit. I think it was 66 that GM started offering them either factory or dealer installed with actual GM wiring plugs on them. Before that the aftermarket Flarestats required some cut-and-splice on the wiring. I have one for a 66 Cadillac on my green one as the wiring plug is same as 64 Olds t/s switch.Wait'll that Guide-Matic encounters some reflective highway signs. Watch it lose its mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amphicar BUYER Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 I have a 66 DeVille with factory cruise (below). I am familiar with this Perfect circle unit. Once you know them, it's nice. I call it my "dial-a-ticket". My Caddy also has the auto dimming. It works as well as it ever did! ;-) It could get you a road rage ticket when it goes bezerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 http://classicoldsmobile.com/forums/parts-sale/88115-1964-oldsmobile-starfire-parts.html I don't think you have to be a member to view it. Guy in Chicagoland area is parting some 64s including a decent looking blue interior. You car looks like has 1962 pattern buckets.Besides, one can never have too many spare Starfire parts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amphicar BUYER Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 I don't think you have to be a member to view it. Guy in Chicagoland area is parting some 64s including a decent looking blue interior. You car looks like has 1962 pattern buckets. Besides, one can never have too many spare Starfire parts!Checked it out. He's very proud of his stuff, especially the front seats which may be priced right, I dunno. My Starfire arrived today so now it looks like this in front of my house. It's only 20 degrees outside so too ccccold to have some quality time with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Make sure you get an owner's manual for this thing, if for nothing else to explain how the motor-driven Cruise Control works- it's considerably different from modern vacuum and electronic units. Olds actually had a stand-alone sales brochure for the 1964 Cruise ControlThat's because the speedometer cable worked off the left front wheel in full-size Oldsmobiles from 1963-70. No other North American GM vehicle utilized this arrangement.Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kaycee Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 "Never owned an Olds , but my last few Buicks run great with their engines! Nice car , just don't let the Amphicar get jealous! kaycee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry W Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) John, was that you I saw chasing a Toyota Camry through a wedding reception? I've always considered '64 Olds 88 style and Starfire the best looking Olds of the decade. Congrats on the acquisition. I'm jealous! Larry W. Edited January 10, 2015 by Larry W (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amphicar BUYER Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 I noticed that blue Olds too (64 Dynamic 88). I'm no TV star! ;-) Nice day today so she got some love. She runs strong (love the smell of burning rubber) and drives nice. Started cleaning off the layer of neglect and soon will start making everything operate as intended. Lots of options, pwr antennae, top, wonderbar, reverb, r mirror, chrome engine package, great wheel covers, factory cruise, pwr windows, speed minder, vac trunk, extendable trunk lamp, AC, remote mirror, tilt 4 way emergency lamps and a really cool 70s La Cucaracha horn. Some pitting in the chrome but still shining up nice. Once I remove all the "ad libbing" she'll look better. Needs a paint job. Really poor bodywork which concerns me a bit. She will be a much loved driver.I'm very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machinist_Bill Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 She will be a much loved driver.I'm very happy.That's all that matters!Growing up in my teens my mother had a 1962 "88" with the 394. She complained to her brother that one of the rear tires would go bald every 2 months. He looked at me and then told her he would check the wheel bearings and fix the problem........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 That's because the speedometer cable worked off the left front wheel in full-size Oldsmobiles from 1963-70. No other North American GM vehicle utilized this arrangement.CraigMore to it than that. The CC didn't know if the front wheel or the transmission was driving the speedometer cable. This Dana/ Perfect Circle system was all electric- no vacuum or governor. Had a big electric motor underhood connected to the throttle linkage. Not only would it lock and maintain a preset speed, it could be used as a "reminder" when it wasn't engaged. It would push back on the accelerator pedal when you were exceeding whatever speed the "remind" feature was set. It did have an "accelerate/coast" feature of sorts in that changing the speed setting on the dial (see John's Cad pic above) would automatically increase or decrease speed to that setting and then lock in.Complex system, but still not as complex as the 1966 Thunderbird's Highway Pilot.And y'all just thought the current obsession with electronic gadgets in cars was something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amphicar BUYER Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 That's because the speedometer cable worked off the left front wheel in full-size Oldsmobiles from 1963-70. No other North American GM vehicle utilized this arrangement. -CraigNot true, my Starfire (3 speed auto w/cc ) and my Jetstar 88 (2 speed auto non-cc) speedo cables run from the trans to the CC then to the speedometer. Only the F-85s are on the wheel hub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldsfan Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I don't see your name on the NAOC roster. You'll be joining?? Our 2016 national meet is in Colorado Springs.Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amphicar BUYER Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 I don't see your name on the NAOC roster. You'll be joining?? Our 2016 national meet is in Colorado Springs.PaulPaul,Thanks for the invite, but I will NEVER join another club of any kind. I apologize in advance for the following rant. I had a bad experience with another club that I thought was truly different from all other clubs and due to my passion I rose to be the president, webmaster and for a short time the treasurer all at the same time. A handful of people took an unsubstantiated accusation by a man with mental issues (not joking) and basically threw me under the bus then ran over me a few times. (all this while I was laying in the hospital still performing my duties after a head-on wreck) My long list of contributions which include several 100s of hours of my time and far more money than I had building the website that today is still mostly my design. My efforts have been ignored. One man in particular (he knows who he is) was instrumental in feeding the machine for his own twisted elitist ideals. Even though the accuser was eventually shown to be unstable and the accusations unfounded he was asked to leave in secret. Even with all I did I was told I did not do enough! (huh?) To date not a single apology nor acknowledgment of the exceedingly bizarre behavior has ever made by anyone involved although many in private voiced their opinions to me. There were several long time members who quit in protest over the secretive handling of the events yet nothing changed. This entire fiasco was largely ignored in a child like "head in the sand" attitude. I can say that the club has not had the following, numbers or involvement since I was thrown to the wolves without thought. The forums used to have a lot of traffic all day, now it's only every couple weeks or more. It is just a tragic thing that a couple narcissistic elitists choose to destroy another for unknown (to me) reasons. I have left out many details that make it even worse that you know.As you can see obviously this is an open wound that has left me scarred and deeply angered. I gave a lot of passion, time, experience and money to the cause only to be crapped all over. I will never be so generous and freely give my talents and experiences to a club (pack) mentality ever again. My sincerest apology to all for the rant, but this experience has been the epitome of what a club and humans should not be. (stepping off my soapbox) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machinist_Bill Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Wow!Relax John! Being independent is just fine. I had the same experience years ago with a MOPAR club. 7 people did all the work and 98 enjoy the benefits and did nothing but complain. My wife and I have much more fun now at shows and don't have to work the booths. We pay our fees, cook our food on the grill, and BS to all the passers by! Come on spring!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Not true, my Starfire (3 speed auto w/cc ) and my Jetstar 88 (2 speed auto non-cc) speedo cables run from the trans to the CC then to the speedometer. Only the F-85s are on the wheel hub.Double check. J88s had Jetaways which were set up to drive off the trans. The other 63-70 FSCs except for a few later cruise applications drove it off the wheel. Look close and see if you've got a 62 transmission in there John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Even with all I did I was told I did not do enough! (huh?) Dang, that sounds like me as an OCA Zone director circa 1998-2001. When I realised that if I didn't get off that board of directors I was probably gonna pop the club president in the mouth, I did what any sane person who had been told he wasn't doing his job as a director would have done. I quit and didn't do anything! And then sat back and watched as the palace burned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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