Degeraths Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 I would love some input from the hive mind. I am curious as to what you all would think would be a realistic and reasonable asking price for my car? I don't think that I am that eager to sell her but I have been browsing two doors and think that it might be something I would be interested in. So if something was to come up it would be a matter of selling mine to finance the purchase of another. Therefore I would be interested to see what you all might think would be a reasonable asking price. She is a 1927 Dodge Brothers, Four Door Deluxe Sedan. Not entire sure of the exact model number. Body is straight as an arrow. No damage or issues that I can find. She runs and drives well. Good transmission and engine, very reliable. Recently rebuild the water pump and cleaned out the radiator. Stays cool even on 90+ degree days. Has an electric fuel pump. Starts right up and runs smooth. Just got done dialing in her timing as well. She has a BRAND NEW muffler and exhaust line, from the manifold to the end pipe, all new. No major rust issues underneath, just standard surface rust on the frame. Interior is in good shape as well. Her seats have recently been entirely redone and look amazing! Dash looks great, oil pressure gauge works, amp meter and speedometer are a bit glitchy. All of her lights work, including the dash light and dome! The roof will need to be recovered at some point. The door panels and interior walls would eventually need new covering. The previous owners did a quick job but it could look better. Headliner is redone but looks nice. Overall she is a solid runner with no issues that some minor tinkering wouldn't fix. I drive her weekly and she is reliable and fun to drive. I am just curious, what would be a good asking price for her if I did decide to let her go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22touring Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I'll give you my opinion, but I might be totally wrong (indeed, I do seem to remember that I have been wrong once or twice before) and I don't mean to be a Nattering Nabob of Negativism. If Other Brothers disagree, I would be very interested in hearing their contrary opinions. I do not believe there is any substantial buyer market for 4-cylinder DB closed cars. I therefore think you may have some difficulty finding a buyer. If you did find one, I think the car would sell for maybe $5,000.00. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degeraths Posted June 19, 2023 Author Share Posted June 19, 2023 2 hours ago, 22touring said: I do not believe there is any substantial buyer market for 4-cylinder DB closed cars. I therefore think you may have some difficulty finding a buyer. If you did find one, I think the car would sell for maybe $5,000.00. Well, there is no substantial market for any cars of this age anymore, but I will say that I have asked this question on several different sites and so far you are by far and away the lowest estimate. I don't believe I am going to break anyone's bank but I don't believe that a car of this quality, in running, driving condition is worth only 5k. It seems that the average value estimate so far seems to run anywhere from 8k to 12k in her current condition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 In Australia your car would probably be worth $17,000-$22,000. It’s hard to say exactly without seeing it personally but that’s what they seem to be going for over here. Good luck with selling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Four door sedans are always a tough sell. Add in the small engine, colors and interior I think asking 7500 or best offer is probably about right. As the previous poster noted, you are swimming in a small pond. Good luck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 One thing to learn is that if you are asking for someone's opinion, take the opinion and do whatever you want, but don't chastise us for giving you our honest opinions as to what your car is worth. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22touring Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) It is too bad that Dodge Brothers 4-cylinder cars don't command more respect in the market because they are such Mighty Machines. This means they only get restored as a labor of love, so DB'ers are willing to help each other a lot. Part of the problem is that the 4-cylinder DB is pretty slow for driving on today's roads, the same as a Model T is. Maybe someday people will start appreciating DBs for their historical and mechanical virtues. Here's a suggestion for you, Degeraths: Could you maybe gain a lot of satisfaction from the car by keeping it and restoring it to stock? The bright side of it is that you could use the experience to improve your restoration skills. Edited June 19, 2023 by 22touring addition (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degeraths Posted June 19, 2023 Author Share Posted June 19, 2023 46 minutes ago, keiser31 said: One thing to learn is that if you are asking for someone's opinion, take the opinion and do whatever you want, but don't chastise us for giving you our honest opinions as to what your car is worth. No one was chastised. I just questioned the validity of an estimate that was so much lower than just about everyone else's who has been kind enough to respond. A simple browse through recent sales would indicated a higher price than 5k. She is worth more than that as parts, so I would say that a running, driving vehicle ready for use could command a better price than just five thousand dollars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 55er Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 So list the car for sale on Ebay or some other site with a reserve and find out what the actual buyers in the real world with cash in hand will pay for it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Anselmo Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 My 2-cents so take it for what it is worth, but I think the 7K to 8K range. I think 12K would be the value of a fully restored car. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I kind of caught this. Asking for a real idea of what it would actually sell for and then didn't like one of the estimates. So, I am guessing that you already have an opinion of what YOU think it would sell for. But you state that you are not eager to sell. My most recent experiences were when I DID want to sell. Put it on eBay with no reserve and take what the real world is willing to pay. In my cases I was disappointed, but at least had sold. Of course, we all want to get the highest amount for the stuff we are done with, But we also need to face reality. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22touring Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 FWIW, I did not feel like Degeraths was chastising me; I thought he was just expressing disagreement in a perfectly acceptable way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nat Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) See what they have sold for, not the asking price. It looks pretty sweet to me. Edited June 20, 2023 by nat Forceps at birth (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Watching on FB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degeraths Posted June 21, 2023 Author Share Posted June 21, 2023 Well, I thought I would give you an update on Sophie. I put her up for sale on Monday and she was gone by the next day. She sold for just shy of 10k and I purchased her about three months or so ago for 5k and put about $700 into her to fix her up a bit. For those of you who think that the market is soft, I have to disagree to a point. I don't think the market's soft, I just think some sellers have higher expectations of value than the market does. A soft market usually means that people just aren't buying these cars because they are not interested. I don't believe that is the case at all. I had a TON of people inquiring about my Dodge in just a 24 hour period, to the point I had to silence my phone overnight because of the messages I was getting about her all night. I was realistic about the actual value of the car and not using my love of antique vehicles as a gauge of worth. In the condition Sophie was in and her huge limitations as a vehicle (hardly any power, can't go over 35mph, little to no braking power on a good day), then I would say nearly 10k is not bad at all. She was gone by yesterday morning and I got higher than what I was asking for her when I posted her for sale in this group. I ended up buying this beautiful 1931 Chevy Independence, which I purchased for less than what I sold my Dodge for, and this car is not only in much, much better condition than my Dodge was, it also can go 50+ and stops on a frick'n dime. I just thought I would give you all a view into the market from my perspective. I agree that it is definitely a buyers market out there right now, but I don't think the market is flat, I just think there are a lot of people who have priced their cars based on love and memories and not on practical curb appeal or realistic expectations of value. I had no problems at all selling the Dodge, even with her problems in tow. I was just realistic about how much people are willing to spend. I asked this groups members and several others for their opinion on resale value of my Dodge and got everything from... "Don't take less than 16k" to "If you priced it at 5k it would probably still sit for months if not years at that price, no one wants four door closed cars". Both opinions of value were drastically wrong. For those of you out there trying to sell your cars and having no luck, bite the bullet and lower your price and broaden your scope a bit. The interest is out there, there doesn't seem to be a lack of it in my experience anyway. I sold mine on Craigslist and had a ton of interest from that platform. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Anselmo Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Very cool car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22touring Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Wrong again! Congratulations! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machinist_Bill Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Nice old Chevy! I wonder if we will see the chassis & running gear up for sale this fall.......... Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degeraths Posted June 25, 2023 Author Share Posted June 25, 2023 On 6/21/2023 at 4:56 PM, Machinist_Bill said: Nice old Chevy! I wonder if we will see the chassis & running gear up for sale this fall.......... Bill Wow... that was rude. Seeing as most of the people who own these cars are old enough to have played cards with Moses, I would worry more about your future estate sale and less about what happens to my car. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machinist_Bill Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Your right..... I should never have complimented you on the "Nice Old Chevy" on a Dodge Brothers forum! I apologize for that and in the future i will refrain from giving you any compliments. Have a great day! Bill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Glad you made a nice flip. Because you found the one guy that wanted that car doesn't mean the market is soft or strong, just means the stars aligned for you. Be happy, but don't expect it to be common place. Though if just looking to flip, now take that 10G and sink it all back into a similar car to try to flip and see if lightening strikes twice. If so and you have moved the purchase price up accordingly you'll be able to say the market is strong. I look at way too many car ads all over the country every day and see many similar cars lingering. Many even coupes in that price range. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Some of you may not realize this car was just bought about a month ago. He played it up and ask all kinds of questions which many helped him with. Now he sells for a good profit when he said he was just wanting to know opinions of value. Sounds like a flipper to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 First, never name an old car. It is goofy. They are not boats. Second, if you bought that for 5k and sold it for 10k, congratulations. You are lucky. Third, your thread is disingenuous which is just bad form. You state that "I don't think that I am that eager to sell her" and then 2 days later you gloat when you flip it. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 “Cards with Moses”. I LOVE that. Can’t wait to use it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minibago Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Remember the name to avoid for the future. This is not what this forum is all about. Hopefully Karma will even things out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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