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  1. knobless, I don't think there are any holes to run the rod through. I would have to destroy some pretty nice paint work if I were to weld in braces or drill holes for rods. How about this: install the doors and hold them closed with large, soft-jawed pipe clamps. Wouldn't the doors brace the body OK while I lift it off the frame?
  2. So I've got to weld the braces into my nice bodywork?
  3. I was hoping that you folks would be willing to tell me the best way to brace the door openings on my '22 touring car when I remove the body from the frame. I would appreciate any advice you might have for, hopefully, a simple and elegant way to do it. Thanks very much
  4. Good points, nearchoc. I had forgotten about the '24 four-passenger. Was that body built by DB or by Fisher?
  5. The all-steel body was a major selling point for the DB car and was heavily advertised. Therefore DB stalwarts and loyalists of the time were somewhat dismayed when, in January of 1925 (after the Brothers' deaths but a few months before the purchase by Dillon, Read & Co.) DB introduced the Coach and Special models, which had bodies built by Fisher that were made from steel and wood composite.
  6. It was Niles Thomas who owned it in 1986 when I saw it. He drove it around in a big Ford van.
  7. Yes, the "E & D" bicycle was one of the first to feature ball bearings, rather than bushings, in both the hubs and the bottom bracket. That was just one of the Dodge Bros.'s other talents. Another one was when , at the government's request, they built a factory and manufactured special ammunition to very close tolerances when the U.S. entered WWI. I think neither GM nor Ford was willing or able to do it.
  8. What a great project, Mattml430! It will be a very beautiful car when you finish it. There was a somewhat elderly gentleman whom I met at the 1986 DB Club national meet in Reno, NV in 1986 who had a sports roadster that was really beautiful. Maybe somebody can tell me his name; I am sorry, but I don't remember it. However, I think he was then a long-time member of the DBC. In any event, his car was lovely and seemed very correctly restored, as far as I can tell. So you might want to check to see if his car appears in any pictures that the DBC might have of their 1986 national meet.
  9. It is interesting that neither the 1970's Cars & Parts series "Good Enough Is Not Acceptable" by Don Butler, nor "The Brothers Dodge" by Stan Grayson in Automobile Quarterly for the first quarter of 1979 (two fairly well-respected sources of information concerning the DB car) mentions the 1,500 Wilson bodies. Butler, if not Grayson, claimed to have reviewed Frederick Haynes's notebooks.
  10. I finally got around to buying a copy of Charles Hyde's "The Dodge Brothers" on Kindle, and noticed that the author states DB bought 1,500 wood-framed bodies from the Wilson Carriage Co. the first year of production, apparently because the Budd Co. couldn't produce enough all-steel bodies (citing Frederick Haynes's notebook). I was totally unaware of this when I disagreed with nearchoclatetown over the issue. Sorry about that! The Hyde book sure does contain a lot of interesting information.
  11. The all-steel bodies of the early Screensides were built at the Edward G. Budd Manufacturing Co. in Philadelphia, PA.
  12. I have heard stories over the years (which may be apocryphal, but I tend to believe them) that you should not use a high-compression head on an early, 3-main-bearing, 4-cylinder DB engine. Here's an advertising brochure for the Roof OHV cylinder head for the DB 4-cylinder. I don't seem to be able to upload a legible copy, so here is a link to the legible version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4yy5uptniyk3qee/Roof OHV clyinder head for DB brochure.jpg?dl=0
  13. The green engine color for 4-cylinder DB cars is DuPont DuLux 83503 - 1958 Peugeot green. Check out this thread, wherein the paint color code is provided by well-known DB authority Rodger "Dodger" Hartley. https://forums.aaca.org/topic/44755-engine-color/ Here's a copy of the DB body paint chart that was distributed by ROMAR quite a few years ago.
  14. thehandleman, I have a can of DB green engine paint in my barn, too. I think it was the Dupont brand, so the number should cross-reference easily. Do you want me to go fetch that can and get the code for you?