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  1. Rodger, of course I do recognize you as a DB expert of renown, but may I suggest that the top saddles became optional equipment earlier than '24. Jim Mallars (RIP) said his dad told him it happened in late '21 or '22, as a result of the 1921 recession. As with many things DB, apparently changes were phased in over a period of time. My '22 touring (manufactured in late November of 1922), which seemed to be rather original, had no saddles and had the factory cover plates and bolts installed instead. Edit: I looked it up in the 1928 Master Parts List. The top rests were standard
  2. I don't believe that anyone has mentioned LUB 164 1500W oil, which is also sold by the same restoration supply companies. I have had good results with it: much less grinding and clashing of gears than with the 180W I had been using.
  3. Yes, that would be easier than building a fixture to hold it, I must admit. It is probably just that I am emotionally invested in the idea of building such a fixture because I recently obtained the tools and materials necessary to make one and to attach it to the concrete floor. I'd like to hear any other suggestions, though.
  4. I'm trying to straighten the passenger-side front fender on my 1922 touring car. The front of it got pushed back, and I need to pull it forward. That chrome vanadium steel requires a lot of force to pull it, so I need to bolt the fender securely to a fixture in order to do it successfully. I would very much appreciate hearing about fixtures that you have made or used, or that you think would serve, to hold a DB front fender for body work. I'm just not at all clear about what kind of fixture to construct. Thank you.
  5. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the Screen Side would have used the same license plate support, going across the spare tire mount, as the rest of the DB lineup used. In the attached picture of the rear of my pretty original and correct '22 touring, the stop light (that the state of California first required in 1924, and which the original owner added at that time) is the red one below the yellow running light in the official Dodge Bros. accessory rear light enclosure. Another accessory, aftermarket "stop" light is mounted below the factory stop light because it better grabbed your attention.
  6. Mark, I think the rear axle ratio was 4.166:1. It looks from the Master Parts List like the so-called "2nd series Kelsey rims" were the first to have all-steel felloes, and that DB stopped using wood felloes in January of 1920, beginning at car no. 434412, until they switched over to the 2nd series Kelsey rims completely at car no. 436468. I could be wrong about this because I am going strictly based on the pictures of the cross-sections of the felloes in the Master Parts List, but if I am then I'm sure that somebody will chime in and correct me. Wood spoke wheels were
  7. knobless, I don't think there are any holes to run the rod through. I would have to destroy some pretty nice paint work if I were to weld in braces or drill holes for rods. How about this: install the doors and hold them closed with large, soft-jawed pipe clamps. Wouldn't the doors brace the body OK while I lift it off the frame?
  8. So I've got to weld the braces into my nice bodywork?
  9. I was hoping that you folks would be willing to tell me the best way to brace the door openings on my '22 touring car when I remove the body from the frame. I would appreciate any advice you might have for, hopefully, a simple and elegant way to do it. Thanks very much
  10. Good points, nearchoc. I had forgotten about the '24 four-passenger. Was that body built by DB or by Fisher?
  11. The all-steel body was a major selling point for the DB car and was heavily advertised. Therefore DB stalwarts and loyalists of the time were somewhat dismayed when, in January of 1925 (after the Brothers' deaths but a few months before the purchase by Dillon, Read & Co.) DB introduced the Coach and Special models, which had bodies built by Fisher that were made from steel and wood composite.
  12. It was Niles Thomas who owned it in 1986 when I saw it. He drove it around in a big Ford van.
  13. Yes, the "E & D" bicycle was one of the first to feature ball bearings, rather than bushings, in both the hubs and the bottom bracket. That was just one of the Dodge Bros.'s other talents. Another one was when , at the government's request, they built a factory and manufactured special ammunition to very close tolerances when the U.S. entered WWI. I think neither GM nor Ford was willing or able to do it.
  14. What a great project, Mattml430! It will be a very beautiful car when you finish it. There was a somewhat elderly gentleman whom I met at the 1986 DB Club national meet in Reno, NV in 1986 who had a sports roadster that was really beautiful. Maybe somebody can tell me his name; I am sorry, but I don't remember it. However, I think he was then a long-time member of the DBC. In any event, his car was lovely and seemed very correctly restored, as far as I can tell. So you might want to check to see if his car appears in any pictures that the DBC might have of their 1986 national
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