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Sebastien, I don't know if Bo's requires a core exchange. You may want to check with them. I just ordered a clutch for my 42 Special. They told me they only have the "replacement" style available, which does not require a core. 

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On 1/8/2023 at 1:05 PM, sebastienbuick said:

 

Hello and thank you for my parents :)
Yes we love this Buick, it is superb and very pleasant to drive :)
Yes I saw your Buick and it is superb! :)
Here are pictures of what me and my brother gave my parents for Christmas :) 

 

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That Shop Manual will become your best friend. I add notes in the manual whenever I am working on the car for reference. 

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3 hours ago, drhach said:

Sebastien, I don't know if Bo's requires a core exchange. You may want to check with them. I just ordered a clutch for my 42 Special. They told me they only have the "replacement" style available, which does not require a core. 

 

ok thanks for the information. I will see with them when I place the order :) 

 

2 hours ago, kingrudy said:

That Shop Manual will become your best friend. I add notes in the manual whenever I am working on the car for reference. 

 

yes it's true that the manual will help me, and I will use it to change the clutch :) 

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Hello, we would also like to order a new belt, I found these models at Bob's Automobilia .
What do you think ? I think the first is the right one, but the price is high for a belt, isn't it ?

 

https://bobsautomobilia.com/shop/cooling-system/fan-belt-1940-s-40-50-fb-40/

 

https://bobsautomobilia.com/shop/cooling-system/fan-belt-1941-49-s-60-70-fb-419l/

 

https://bobsautomobilia.com/shop/cooling-system/fan-v-belt-1934-39-s-40-fb-349/

 

Thank you :) 

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7 hours ago, EmTee said:

I think this is the one that you need: https://bobsautomobilia.com/shop/cooling-system/fan-belt-1941-49-s-40-50-fb-419/

 

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Yes, it seems a bit expensive, but what isn't these days...  ;)

 

Hello, thank you very much for your help ! :)
Yes it's true, finally the price is right  ;)
THANKS ! :) 

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On 8/7/2023 at 1:39 PM, EmTee said:

I think this is the disc that you will need:

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You will have to send your old core back to them, or just pay the $50 charge.  The only other thing I think you might consider is a new throwout bearing.

 

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Hello, I wanted to order the parts for the clutch and they are out of stock.

 

https://bobsautomobilia.com/shop/clutch-items/clutch-friction-disc-1938-55-s-40-50-cd-366/


Is this second model for sale the right one too? because this one is available.

 

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We would also like to buy windscreen wipers, do you know which model to order ?
THANKS ! :)

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43 minutes ago, EmTee said:

They also have this:

 

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Maybe someone else on the forum like @Ben Bruce aka First Born will know the modern application that is referenced above.  I believe it is a Jeep clutch set, but I don't know which year and model to buy.

 

 1995 Jeep Cherokee.   

 

  Ben

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23 hours ago, EmTee said:

 

23 hours ago, EmTee said:

They also have this:

 

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Maybe someone else on the forum like @Ben Bruce aka First Born will know the modern application that is referenced above.  I believe it is a Jeep clutch set, but I don't know which year and model to buy.

 

Hello and thank you for your answer .
The kit at $285 sounds good to me, and if it's really the right model I'd like to order this one.

But before I would like to know if there is a difference between the one at $285, the second model available at Bob's automobilia and the photo you put on your second message ?
Thank you for your help :) 

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1 hour ago, sebastienbuick said:

is a 1941 Buick clutch the same as a 1995 Jeep ?

 

The "waffle clutch" used in some series 40 Buicks has a reputation for being unreliable. I have been hearing stories of people using a much newer Jeep clutch as a replacement to get rid of the "waffle clutch". By some coincidence it fits. I have not done this myself, so I don't know which Jeep. @Ben Bruce aka First Born said 1995 Cherokee, and he would know.

 

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2 hours ago, Bloo said:

 

The "waffle clutch" used in some series 40 Buicks has a reputation for being unreliable. I have been hearing stories of people using a much newer Jeep clutch as a replacement to get rid of the "waffle clutch". By some coincidence it fits. I have not done this myself, so I don't know which Jeep. @Ben Bruce aka First Born said 1995 Cherokee, and he would know.

 

 

  I believe Bloo means the "waffle" pressure plate.  

  The clutch plate appears to be the same as Buick.  The both work well in my 1950.  

  The one I used came from O'REILLY,   Power Torque  .   K 1890-05.  

  I installed this on the hopped up 263 .  It will spin the tires.  Been in there about 20,000 miles.

 

  Ben

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4 hours ago, Bloo said:

 

The "waffle clutch" used in some series 40 Buicks has a reputation for being unreliable. I have been hearing stories of people using a much newer Jeep clutch as a replacement to get rid of the "waffle clutch". By some coincidence it fits. I have not done this myself, so I don't know which Jeep. @Ben Bruce aka First Born said 1995 Cherokee, and he would know.

 

 

2 hours ago, Ben Bruce aka First Born said:

 

  I believe Bloo means the "waffle" pressure plate.  

  The clutch plate appears to be the same as Buick.  The both work well in my 1950.  

  The one I used came from O'REILLY,   Power Torque  .   K 1890-05.  

  I installed this on the hopped up 263 .  It will spin the tires.  Been in there about 20,000 miles.

 

  Ben

 

Hello, ok thanks for the information :) .
To be sure to have the right model, my parents preferred to order the kit at $285 for a 1941 Buick.
We also ordered a pair of wipers, the accessory belt (alternator, water pump, etc.) and a pair of rods for the rear stabilizer bar :) 

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Hello everyone, here is some news about my parents' Buick :)
And here are photos from last month until today :)
With my brother and my parents, we went on a Saturday evening to eat in an American restaurant, a diner :) , and we went there with the Buick :) .  
And my parents told me I could drive the Buick if I wanted, and so I drove! :) . This Buick is awesome, I love it. It drives very well, very pleasant, powerful too! :)
Here are photos of nights when we arrive and when we leave the restaurant :)

 

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Then the weekend after me and my brother went to a vintage car show near our village with my 1978 Dodge Monaco police and my brother's 1984 Peugeot 205 GTI. My parents were not available to come with the Buick that day.

 

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then another weekend, a Peugeot 504, but for this car exhibition I will do another topic on the forum :) 

 

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Then two weekends ago, with my brother and my parents we went to a vintage car exhibition at the Castle  " ( chateau ) de la baronie "  in Lafrançaise, a town near where I live.
And we went there with my Dodge and with my parents' Buick :) 

 

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And there was also a very rare 1929 Buick ! :wub:

 

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Then here are some photos of the cars that were there, I will make a new subject of this car exhibition on the forum too

 

Peugeot 404

 

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Jaguar

 

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Citroën SM 

 

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Nice Citroën

 

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Peugeot 202 and Peugeot 302 

 

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 Then a photo of these two friends, who found it :) .

 

Yes, they are found again, because they are two Buicks with the same history, they both come from the same museum ! :)

For the record, our friend went with a friend to see the cars for sale at the museum that I explained at the beginning.
These two friends went to the museum and they loved these cars, and one bought the 1941 Buick, and the other friend bought the 1929 Buick.
These two friends live not far away and the two Buicks were taken to our region.
Our friend who bought the 1941 Buick fell in love with this car and that's why he bought it, but he didn't have the space to put it in his garage. He wanted to build a new garage for this Buick but he couldn't.
Then we went to see our friend and he showed us the 1941 Buick, and my parents also fell in love with this car and they bought it.
And there are two Buicks next to each other :)  , in the same region.
And this 1929 Buick also had some repairs to do to get it back on the road all this time in the museum :) 

 

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On 11/9/2023 at 12:23 PM, sebastienbuick said:

 

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Hi Sebastien:

 

What is that convertible next to your Dodge?  Is it a Peugeot?  The grill has a definite Buick look to it with all those teeth!

 

I really get a kick out of seeing your baby blue Police Edition Dodge in these French settings!  Are the siren and roof lights operative?  I can't help but think about what a start you could give another driver by coming up behind him with the lights flashing (but I suspect that could get you into a bit of trouble with the local Gendarmerie)!

 

Thanks for posting all these photos.  I love the two Buicks together.

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On 11/11/2023 at 10:19 PM, neil morse said:

Hi Sebastien:

 

What is that convertible next to your Dodge?  Is it a Peugeot?  The grill has a definite Buick look to it with all those teeth!

 

I really get a kick out of seeing your baby blue Police Edition Dodge in these French settings!  Are the siren and roof lights operative?  I can't help but think about what a start you could give another driver by coming up behind him with the lights flashing (but I suspect that could get you into a bit of trouble with the local Gendarmerie)!

 

Thanks for posting all these photos.  I love the two Buicks together.

 

Hello and thank you very much for your response! :)
The car next to my Dodge is a Peugeot 203 convertible. The grille is not original, it is equipment that they sold at the time for the Peugeot 203 and many people equipped their 203 with this grille.
It is not uncommon to see Peugeot 203s with this grille even today ;)

 

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Thank you for my Dodge :), yes the siren and flashing lights work :) , and a lot of people like this car and take photos with the Dodge  :)
I do a lot of car shows with my Dodge, since July I have been going to car shows with the Dodge every Sunday until November! , and now the season ends with the arrival of winter, and in winter we do car repairs :)
I'm even going to do errands at the store with the Dodge, and a lot of people want to take pictures inside the Dodge, and I can't get into the store right away :D 

Once I got stopped by the police, they stopped me because they wanted to see the Dodge and take pictures! And I took pictures of my police Dodge next to their police car ! (it was a Peugeot police truck :)
And when I come across police cars on the road, they laugh :). And once a policewoman said “woww so good !” :) 

 

My 1978 Dodge Monaco police :) 

 

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There was also this very beautiful Chevrolet and Cobra :) 

 

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There was also this Peugeot 403 “compressor”.
Compressor because this 403 is equipped with a compressor, at the time you could modify your car by putting a compressor on it to make it more powerful :) 

 

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Hello everyone :) , it's been a long time since I posted any photos on the Buick 41.
Since December I have been working on my Buick 69, Buick 41 and my Dodge 78.
And the dodge took me a lot of time to work on.
So here are the photos of the work on the 1941 Buick :) 

 

Between the end of the year and the beginning of the year my parents wanted to re-chrome the grille with the additional headlight/Oscar at the front.

 

So dismantling the grille, and it looks weird, a good piece is missing ! :D 

 

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The grille is in three parts

 

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Then dismantle the headlights, they appear clean but it is on the lower part and inside that you need to look.

 

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Sandblasting and painting of headlight supports

 

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Then the chrome came back (two small chrome in the lot are for my 1969 Buick ) :)

 

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And my parents ordered new license plates :) 

 

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The Dodge tank says hello to the Buick :D 

 

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Painting the suction “mouth/nozzle” before reassembling the grille

 

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Then before reassembling the grille, fitting the new license plate at the front

 

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Re-assembly of the grille

 

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Painting the ventilation nozzle with its support

 

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And reassembly

 

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Then reassembly of the headlights

 

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Manufacturing of a small support for fixing the rear license plate, and manufacturing of support/reinforcement for the headlights.

And application of primary

 

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application of black paint

 

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Then refitting the headlights on the Buick, as well as its new rear license plate :) 

 

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it will remain to wash the Buick :D 

 

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Then I put the Buick in the pit to change the "arms" of the rear stabilizer bar

 

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the new arms

 

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it was in bad condition

 

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Made in USA ! :) 

 

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The other side is in the same condition

 

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Then reassembly

 

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and now she's ready to drive ! :)

 

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Hi Sebastian, 

that should give a noticeable difference in ride and handling given the poor state of the original bushes. Well done!

 

And the rechroming of the grille and fog lights, and painting the internal intake parts is superb. 

 

Interesting that France allows the California license plates to be displayed. Or is that another can of worms! 😀😀

 

Rodney 😀😀😀😀😀

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20 hours ago, rodneybeauchamp said:

Hi Sebastian, 

that should give a noticeable difference in ride and handling given the poor state of the original bushes. Well done!

 

And the rechroming of the grille and fog lights, and painting the internal intake parts is superb. 

 

Interesting that France allows the California license plates to be displayed. Or is that another can of worms! 😀😀

 

Rodney 😀😀😀😀😀

 

Thank you so much ! :) 
For registration plates, French law says (indicates) the lettering/writing that the plate must contain (letter/number with dashes), but the law does not specify the design and format of the plate.
So are we in regulation? yes and no, it depends on the police but it is very rare to be arrested by the police for this.
In the vast majority the police are nicer to classic cars and say nothing.
Here is the French site where they ordered the new plates :

 

https://www.rebelcar.fr/plaques-americaines-avec-immatriculation-francaise.htm

 

And I would like to buy these Utah license plates for my 1969 Buick Electra :) 

 

https://www.rebelcar.fr/plaque-usa-utah-personnalisee-en-aluminium-embouti.htm

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19 hours ago, avgwarhawk said:

Nice work!

 

Thank you very much avgwarhawk ! :) 

 

2 hours ago, Buicknutty said:

 Looking good there!

 

Thank you Buicknutty !! :)  , the Buick is ready to drive :) , and soon I would like to repair the speedometer. The speedometer and trip meter are not working, I think the speedometer cable has a problem.

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17 minutes ago, drhach said:

Great work as always. Please report back about how the ride is now that you've changed those bushings. 

 

Thanks a lot :)  ! For the moment I have not driven it (with the new part) , when I finished this repair I parked the Buick in the garage. But soon when I take the Buick to drive (this weekend maybe :) ), I will tell you the change on the road with this new part  :) 

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On 5/12/2024 at 3:39 PM, sebastienbuick said:

And the dodge took me a lot of time to work on.

Nice work on the '41 Buick!  I see you had the gas tank out of the Dodge - what else did you need to do to it?

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22 hours ago, EmTee said:

Nice work on the '41 Buick!  I see you had the gas tank out of the Dodge - what else did you need to do to it?

 

Thank you so much EmTee ! :) 
I had a problem with the tank of my Dodge, I had bought a new gas cap but this new cap did not vent. And when I was driving and the pump sucked in fuel, the tank deformed, then when I removed the fuel cap I heard a "shhhhtt" and the tank inflated and took its original shape. I didn't realize it, and by deforming it, the tank was bent and pierced.
So I dismantled the tank, cleaned it completely, then repaired the tank by welding. And then I applied two coats of colorless bodywork varnish to protect the tank.
As the tank was dismantled, I took the opportunity to strip, clean and paint the floor under the car, from the rear bumper to the floor under the rear seat.
I also stripped the rear axle and did the oil change.
And I then applied “hollow body wax” (that’s what it’s called in France) in the crossmembers of the floor and chassis.
My brother helped me, and to strip the floor and paint it, it took me 5 weekends with my brother.
And at the beginning of the year I changed the steering box on my Dodge, I bought a used one and normally it was in very good condition. And when we put it together and I tried it, the steering box is actually in poor condition and there is a lot of play in the steering :( . The upper bearing of the box axle is out of order I think. For the moment I drive with this steering box but in the future it will be necessary to change or repair the box .

 

here are photos to summarize the work on the Dodge :) 

 

disassembly of the tank

 

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the floor is very dirty and very greasy

 

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cleaning the tank with thinner

 

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Here is the tank leak

 

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stripping, degreasing the floor with the help of my brother

 

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It's starting to feel good :) 

 

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at the same time, draining the rear axle

 

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sanding of a few parts

 

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stripping the rear axle and painting the axle housing, and painting the floor under the car and the rear axle

 

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oil filling

 

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application of varnish on the tank straps, you can see the original references which differ for the right and left side :) 

 

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tank repair :) 

 

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application of a colorless bodywork varnish to the tank

 

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application of wax for hollow bodies

 

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Reassembly of the tank, the tank still shows traces of deformation but it no longer leaks :) 

 

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and cleaning the Dodge!! :) It's finished and ready to drive ! :) 

 

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Thank you for the update on the Dodge!  Aside from the dirt, the undercarriage looks like it is in very good condition and cleaned-up nicely.  Cleaning the underside of a car is a terrible job - kudos to your brother for helping with that awful task!  ;)

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7 hours ago, EmTee said:

Thank you for the update on the Dodge!  Aside from the dirt, the undercarriage looks like it is in very good condition and cleaned-up nicely.  Cleaning the underside of a car is a terrible job - kudos to your brother for helping with that awful task!  ;)

 

Thank you so much ! :) , and thank you for my brother ! :)
Yes, my brother really helped me strip the underside and I am very grateful for his help! :)
And the Dodge is now ready for this new car show and ride season :)

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