Period images to relieve some of the stress

[nzcarnerd]

NYC May 1908. A 'crippled children's auto outing'.

 

I recognise the Stearns car but not the others.

 

 

 

[nzcarnerd]

Heretaunga St, Hastings, New Zealand. A photo that can be dated to within a few months. The registration plate seen on the car at left was only current from July 1930 to July 1931.  On 3 February 1931 a major earthquake hit the area and the Roach's building on the right was one of the victims, collapsing in the quake.

 

I think the two cars approaching the camera are circa 1926 Buicks, but I don't recognise the others. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest]

A Renault GP tractor towing a Mathis car. This is prior to the race, the car has no fuel and is on its way to being weighed.

 

Le Grand Prix de Tourisme - 30th June 1923 Semblançay, France.

 

Edited September 5, 2022 by Jorge Amado (see edit history)

[twin6]

[1937hd45]

On 9/2/2022 at 6:27 PM, dibarlaw said:

Interesting as Roscoe(Fatty) Arbuckle's car is. I find the 3 Franklin delivery trucks even more so.

Is the Arbuckle car a water cooled Renault?

[dibarlaw]

Huge radiator is lurking behind the side mounted wire wheel.

[58L-Y8]

An American Austin used as a pharmacy deliver car:

[30DodgePanel]

21 hours ago, 34LaSalleClubSedan said:

Velie, sport model

How many variations do we recall of Velie Town Cars I wonder?

[34LaSalleClubSedan]

On 8/7/2022 at 3:54 PM, jeff_a said:

Don't have the foggiest idea what this really is. Found it on a site across the pond..........guessing it's about 1928. Isotta-Fraschini, LaSalle, Elcar? 

30 Chrysler model 77  ???

[keiser31]

1 hour ago, 34LaSalleClubSedan said:

30 Chrysler model 77  ???

Yes.

[twin6]

[Guest]

A few more Renault images.

[nzcarnerd]

12 hours ago, twin6 said:

Maybe has a horizontally opposed cylinder engine?

[oldcarfudd]

Possibly Durocar, a big twin.

[nzcarnerd]

On 9/5/2022 at 9:44 AM, nzcarnerd said:

Heretaunga St, Hastings, New Zealand. A photo that can be dated to within a few months. The registration plate seen on the car at left was only current from July 1930 to July 1931.  On 3 February 1931 a major earthquake hit the area and the Roach's building on the right was one of the victims, collapsing in the quake.

 

I think the two cars approaching the camera are circa 1926 Buicks, but I don't recognise the others. 

 

 

 

 

 

I have had confirmed that the dark sedan making a turn in the middle of the photo is a 1923-24 Studebaker Big Six. That model with side mounted spare was Studebaker's most expensive model in that era at circa $2700.

[nzcarnerd]

Provincetown, MA, 1911 (by the plate). Photo credit to Dave Linehan.  Car identified by Chris Paulsen as a 1910 Locomobile 40hp Model I (new price $4500).

 

Looks as if the pedestrians would need to be careful they don't step in the guano.

 

[twin6]

[Walt G]

Beyond the cool Packard in Gila Bend, Az. observe all the amazingly cool signs , gas pump globes, equipment etc. plus the style of the architecture of the garage. this is what is so important about period photographs. It gives you a chance to observe way more then just the primary focus or subject of the photo you pick out that was an attraction. History lesson by observation.................. and a few of us who comment to much as to what else to look at beyond the vehicle.

[1937hd45]

Hope others noticed the darts in the top of the touring car top above the rear window. Simple, and it cost more time and material but it sure is a nice detail. 

 

Bob 

Edited September 8, 2022 by 1937hd45 (see edit history)

[Walt G]

Thanks Bob

Those darts at the top frame the back window, make your eye and field of vision hesitate for a few heart beats to take a bit more notice of the styling of the car. Kind of like a good pinstripe on a wheel, not "in your face" but there to jog your consciousness of what you are viewing.

Walt

[30DodgePanel]

3 hours ago, twin6 said:

Gila Bend hasn't changed much  

 

All kidding aside,

as Walt says it's why these period photos are so important. As much as we are fortunate to gaze and ponder a simpler and glorious time the factual and historical stories they tell are sometimes even more incredible. 

Thank you for sharing it. Now I have to know what that area looks like present day. I believe it may still be standing.

 

edit;

I came across a book with the Gila Bend history that has this photo on the cover

Edited September 8, 2022 by 30DodgePanel (see edit history)

[twin6]

[twin6]

[30DodgePanel]

 

 

[1937hd45]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NICE! Think that is the Sampson Radio car, I'll post more photos of it. 

[1937hd45]

3 hours ago, 1937hd45 said:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NICE! Think that is the Sampson Radio car, I'll post more photos of it. 

Alive and well today, I'll be back with more history. Not a V 16, it is a U 16 has two crankshafts geared together. Bob 

Edited September 9, 2022 by 1937hd45 (see edit history)

[twin6]

Definitely not a V-16...

[nzcarnerd]

1 hour ago, twin6 said:

Definitely not a V-16...

'06 Reo - note the difference in the rear fender. I imagine that the abbreviated version would allow the rear wheel to throw mud and other unmentionables onto the rear step - 

 

 

[George K]

On 9/9/2022 at 6:57 PM, 1937hd45 said:

Alive and well today, I'll be back with more history. Not a V 16, it is a U 16 has two crankshafts geared together. Bob 

Picture of when Phil Reilly was building up the correct engine from parts and new castings from reworked original patterns.

[1937hd45]

2 hours ago, George K said:

Picture of when Phil Reilly was building up the correct engine from parts and new castings from reworked original patterns.

Thank you George, the original engine in the Sampson car was the one out of the wrecked Frank Lockhart Land Speed Record STUTZ BLACKHAWK SPECIAL. They would build a newer car around the same engine that raced in the late 1930's and 1940's. It is restored and in the INDY 500 collection today. 

[George K]

10 hours ago, 1937hd45 said:

Thank you George, the original engine in the Sampson car was the one out of the wrecked Frank Lockhart Land Speed Record STUTZ BLACKHAWK SPECIAL. They would build a newer car around the same engine that raced in the late 1930's and 1940's. It is restored and in the INDY 500 collection today. 

Don’t believe it’s the same engine. Griff Borgeson states this.

[1937hd45]

Thanks George, I stand corrected, here is the later Sampson Special that Bob Swanson drove with the dual superchargers. 

[twin6]

[nzcarnerd]

2 hours ago, twin6 said:

Presumably an electric, though few makes used chain drive.

[nzcarnerd]

On 9/12/2022 at 4:58 PM, 1937hd45 said:

Thanks George, I stand corrected, here is the later Sampson Special that Bob Swanson drove with the dual superchargers. 

Interesting photo (at top). The two guys on the left wearing boaters and short ties look like they are from circa 1920 but then the two young guys in the middle look to have 'DA' hairstyles from a much later period.

[nzcarnerd]

This one was posted on a facebook page captioned as a Cadillac near Denver Colorado in 1912.

 

It obviously isn't a Cadillac. I think it is a Pierce-Arrow from not later than 1910, by the number of front hub bolts. Whether a 38 or 48 I don't know. Most importantly the photo is flipped. P-As didn't go to left hand drive until about 1919(?).

 

I think the car has a 'convertible' top. 

 

 

 

I think this is more like it - 

 

 

[Grimy]

52 minutes ago, nzcarnerd said:

This one was posted on a facebook page captioned as a Cadillac near Denver Colorado in 1912.

 

It obviously isn't a Cadillac. I think it is a Pierce-Arrow from not later than 1910, by the number of front hub bolts. Whether a 38 or 48 I don't know. Most importantly the photo is flipped. P-AS didn't go to left hand drive until about 1919(?).

 

I think the car has a 'convertible' top. 

 

 

 

I think this is more like it - 

 

 

1910 or newer because of the aprons between frame and runningboard.  Thanks for fixing the "flipped negative"--Pieces were RHD through 1920 and became LHD only with the series 32 of 1921.  I'd call this a 48 due to hood height and wheelbase--latter was 134.5" on 48s 1910-1912.  Could be a "California top" due to huge greenhouse.  My so-called expertise really begins with Series 4 in 1916.

[1937hd45]

Was the copper hood on early Pierce Arrow standard or did some come in steel. Was the copper hood just for style, or some engineering reason? 

[Grimy]

35 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said:

Was the copper hood on early Pierce Arrow standard or did some come in steel. Was the copper hood just for style, or some engineering reason? 

You've got me on that one--earlier than my knowledge.  Hope someone here can answer.

[pre10]

13 hours ago, 1937hd45 said:

Was the copper hood on early Pierce Arrow standard or did some come in steel. Was the copper hood just for style, or some engineering reason? 

I think the hoods are brass and they were painted. A couple of people that have restored them have polished them instead of painting them. Sort of like the guys that insist on natural wood wheels when they were painted.