alsancle Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Hudson Eight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Den41Buick Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) Rt 44 in Greenville, RI. Looks like a place to buy Fisk Tires. Also maybe a Ford dealership. The building is still there as well as the building next door which was a Benny's (a local RI institution). On the corner is St. Thomas Episcopal Church. All three buildings are still there today. Edited June 13, 2023 by Den41Buick Add (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 4 hours ago, 41 Su8 said: Can a Model T do that much damage to a telephone pole and not be smashed all to hell? John Built FORD Tough! Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LI_BENTLEY Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 11 hours ago, oldcarfudd said: Are you sure? This car's left door is hinged in back. The other car's passenger door is hinged in front. Unless the same car had two differently hung doors (on a custom job, anything is possible), they're not the same car. The first car headlights are lower and it doesn't have running boards the second car appears to have narrow running boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 17 hours ago, MetroPetro said: Yeah, those Fords were TOUGH! Take a beating and just keep going! Impossible? Think about it, and, I will tell you what you may not know. I worked in communications systems contracting for much of my life. I actually began working with my dad when I was about ten. I have personally dug narrow deep holes for utility poles in places an auger could not get to, more times than I care to admit. Depending upon application and size of pole, the hole is usually about two feet diameter, and six to eight feet deep! I still have the spade and spoon (special shovels) I used for years to dig such holes. "I been there and done that!" The wires on the top of the pole are probably telephone wires. They may be small, but they are strong. They have to be to survive the winds and sag pressures pulling on them all the time. Those wires are going all directions from that pole. Each wire pulling the pole its way with about fifty to a hundred pounds pull! Times about thirty wires, plus a couple guy wires that might hold a few hundred pounds counter pull? The top of that pole isn't going anywhere very easily. The accessorized 1920ish model T appears to be a couple years old. The buildings look to be about 1900 style given the size and shape of the windows. Sidewalks and streets look well established, and that pole may have been there for twenty years or more. When I did do that kind of work, the bottom ten to fifteen feet of the pole was always soaked in a type of creosote. Creosote is nasty stuff! It is oily, tar like, and contains various chemicals that preserve the wooden pole. The creosote was allowed to soak in deep, it does a pretty good job of keeping water out! And what water does get in, the creosote kills the microbes that eat wood and cause wood to rot so badly. This pole was likely put in place at a point in the business when most poles were not being treated this way. How long it may last depends a lot on the surrounding soils. If the soil is sandy, water will usually drain away quickly once the rain stops. If the soil contains a lot of clay, that is bad news. The concrete sidewalk does NOT prevent water from attacking the pole. Much to the contrary. Rain or snow melt sits around the surface of the concrete, soaks into the untreated pole, and wicks its way down to its bottom (fluid dynamics, water wants to go down and wants to make anything dry become wet). A lot of water sitting at the bottom of the pole soaks its way in. But once the surface dries, water isn't in any hurry to go away since the surrounding areas aren't all that dry, and the open air is up instead of down. So, once the bottom of the pole gets wet, the concrete actually helps to keep the pole from drying out. That in turn keeps the wood wet, not having been properly treated in those days the wetness of the wood feeds the "dry rot" (actually a living thing in the fungus family?). I have seen this photo several years ago. At that time, I wondered about a model T shearing off a large pole that way. So, I zoomed in close onto the photo. It appears the roughly two feet above the sidewalk are badly dry rotted. One can tell by the way the wood split up. There probably isn't much left of that pole below the surface of the sidewalk. The only thing holding that pole upright was the wires. The model T had an accessory bumper, it is pretty badly mangled, but still there. The car was probably doing about fifteen miles per hour or less when it hit the pole. The rotted wood gave way almost instantly, the bumper minimized the damage to the car, and created a bizarre photo opportunity. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Among the things that stand out in this great period view are the telegraph/telephone poles with their multiple crossarms which used to line every road and railroad line. Those early gasoline pumps predate the tall visible tank types that replaced them. That might well have been a Ford garage in the second building, it's the typical 19-teen/1920's dealership architecture. Note the "Socony" oil sign on the front. Thanks for posting this, Den41Buick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dship Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 14 hours ago, Den41Buick said: Rt 44 in Greenville, RI. Looks like a place to buy Fisk Tires. Also maybe a Ford dealership. The building is still there as well as the building next door which was a Benny's (a local RI institution). On the corner is St. Thomas Episcopal Church. The last Benny's Hardware store in MA (Rte. 44 Raynham/Taunton) closed about 5 or 6 years ago. They had a bunch of branches throughout RI and MA, and good stuff cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Interesting photo……..England……..Coachbuilder? Is the car still with us? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 On 6/13/2023 at 3:01 AM, wayne sheldon said: When I did do that kind of work, the bottom ten to fifteen feet of the pole was always soaked in a type of creosote. Creosote is nasty stuff! It is oily, tar like, and contains various chemicals that preserve the wooden pole. The creosote was allowed to soak in deep, it does a pretty good job of keeping water out! And what water does get in, the creosote kills the microbes that eat wood and cause wood to rot so badly. Railway ties were highly creosoted. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, edinmass said: Interesting photo……..England……..Coachbuilder? Is the car still with us? Best guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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George K Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 5 hours ago, 58L-Y8 said: This is as good as I can get it to come up: Influence of Saoutchik mentioned above 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 From a facebook page - "Turistas en la Hacienda Juanita en Maricao PR, 1915". Looks to be Pope-Hartford, Hudson and Maxwell. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LI_BENTLEY Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 On 6/14/2023 at 10:02 AM, MetroPetro said: The pennant says it all this is a Cutting automobile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3makes Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 42 minutes ago, MetroPetro said: 1895 Duryea with J Frank Duryea driving. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jukejunkie1015 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 8 hours ago, MetroPetro said: Charles Coffin advertised himself as The Maine Hermit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 12 hours ago, MetroPetro said: Wolseleys on the left. They did a complex range of models in the 1930s. The closest car looks to be a mid-size four cylinder model which shared its body with the contemporary Morris. In the middle looks to be the big 25 (RAC) hp six and at the back a small 10 hp four. Some info here - Wolseley Series III | The Wolseley Owners Club Archive On the right look to be a range of models from the Audi/DKW stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alsancle Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 48 minutes ago, 30DodgePanel said: Check out the Packard towncar in the background. The RR is a nicely done shooting brake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Then and now look at the Paul Howards Flowerland. The red X is the building in the Google street view below. Here is a link to an original brochure that has been digitized. Quite an incredible nursery at one time in the earlier days of Los Angeles. Paul J. Howard's California Flowerland roses : spring 1947 catalog / Paul J. Howard's California Flowerland. : Paul J. Howard's California Flowerland : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) This photo gives us an idea how section # 3 the garden of 1000 roses looked in it's infancy in the aerial map above. Note the Rolls in the background of this photo. Edited June 18, 2023 by 30DodgePanel (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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30DodgePanel Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) Some era tire covers from SoCal, Dan Miner Co. and National Auto Top Co. Edited June 18, 2023 by 30DodgePanel (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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