Joe in Canada Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) A good friend is selling one of his cars, a 6-40 Packard supper 8, as his age is reason for sale. Car has been judged 99 points at the Gilmore CCCA Experience 4 years ago and has been driven very little since. Send me an email and I will give you his contact info. I am only posting it for him as Ralph is not computer literate. Asking $150,000. and in Toronto Edited April 17, 2019 by Joe in Canada (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 An asking price will help weed out the wannabe's like myself or atleast let us know which scratch off we need to buy. Beautiful car by the way, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer09 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Beautiful car Joe. I am not generally a white car person, but looks really elegant on the Packard. Good luck with the sale. I also agree, a price is a big help on serious sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe in Canada Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) Bad lighting it is actually a tan colour / light brown. Edited March 7, 2019 by Joe in Canada (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motoringicons Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I have seen this car at a few Michigan Region CCCA events. It is a great car. I really like the low belt line of this model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe in Canada Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, motoringicons said: I have seen this car at a few Michigan Region CCCA events. It is a great car. I really like the low belt line of this model. I believe he has been a Michigan regional member and still is from the late 50s. Here is a better picture I took of it at the Gilmore in 2015. Edited March 7, 2019 by Joe in Canada (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Your friend's 6-40 Super 8 is a magnificent car- and unfortunately well beyond my current means. Here are some NADA CLASSIC estimated values: 1929 Packard 6-40 Custom Prices and Values 2 Door Runabout 4 Passenger ValuesSpecial Notes Values Original MSRP Low Retail Average Retail High Retail Base Price $3,175 $76,300 $146,200 $260,900 Total Price $3,175 $76,300 $146,200 $260,900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer09 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Thanks Marty. with about a 200k spread, like throwing darts............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Ballard 35R Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Interesting that the unrestored 640 touring went for $25,760 at Bonhams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Marty Roth said: Your friend's 6-40 Super 8 is a magnificent car- and unfortunately well beyond my current means. Here are some NADA CLASSIC estimated values: 1929 Packard 6-40 Custom Prices and Values 2 Door Runabout 4 Passenger ValuesSpecial Notes Values Original MSRP Low Retail Average Retail High Retail Base Price $3,175 $76,300 $146,200 $260,900 Total Price $3,175 $76,300 $146,200 $260,900 Wow. Sell it to the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Well when you see the pictures of the touring you will understand better. While you could have alot of fun with it as is or maybe atleast a coat of primer over it all as it looks like bare metal is showing, it needs alot of money to make it anywhere near as nice as the roadster. Plus I believe the roadster is more desirable. If I had the 26G I would have bought it if it ran OK. Did exactly what I mentioned and rove it alot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 hours ago, West Peterson said: Wow. Sell it to the book. This is usually the point in the thread where I call appraisers and price guides worthless. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I was pointing out to a friend that the sale of the unrestored touring just shows that values of project cars are falling. he said no, it just shows that, on that particular day at that particular auction, there was no one who really wanted the car, and it's not an indication of anything. Car looks mobile, if it was running and driving it was a heck of a buy. As to the value of the roadster, the owner surely has a dollar figure in mind, he'd be well served to let you post it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer09 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 as per the course, when prices arent posted, we know they tend to be on the high side........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I find it interesting that that they put new tires on that touring (I think whitewalls were a big mistake in this case). But then they decided not to clean them up very well. What was the goal? To make the new tires look as neglected as the rest of the car even though they were obviously new? I think it suggests that whomever owned it was completely indifferent to it and just did the bare minimum they had to in order to dump it. Not a car I'd be eager to own. Little stuff like that, which is completely meaningless on the surface (who cares if the whitewalls are still blue?), is what kills values and makes bidders very skittish. Big stuff is manageable (like the paint) and doesn't scare buyers on a car like that, but little stuff being buggered suggests a long list of small issues that will be expensive and maddening to repair. Everyone knows paint will be $25,000, but the little stuff? Who knows how expensive and whether it can even be addressed without a full restoration? That's partially why this car fell on its face. How the hell does at least the auction company not understand that presentation matters? Even if YOU don't care about something like blue crap on whitewalls when it's your car, the buyers are looking for a reason to bail out--why give it to them so easily? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer09 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Matt, was wondering if this could have been an estate sale? would explain the overall condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) Well Matt and others. Cars like the auction touring keep the dream of 20's Packard ownership alive for many of us. Lottery win budget cars have become so far from reality for some of us that I personally don't even look at them anymore. Even at shows I only briefly glance at them and move on to cars there is perhaps a remote possibility that I could someday own. I know as a dealer your priority is getting the best price possible. Out of necessity many of us are focused on the exact opposite, getting an open late 20's Packard as cheaply as possible. Otherwise we are just balding old guys drooling over supermodels. Greg in Canada Edited March 8, 2019 by 1912Staver (see edit history) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md murray Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said: I find it interesting that that they put new tires on that touring (I think whitewalls were a big mistake in this case). But then they decided not to clean them up very well. What was the goal? To make the new tires look as neglected as the rest of the car even though they were obviously new? I think it suggests that whomever owned it was completely indifferent to it and just did the bare minimum they had to in order to dump it. Not a car I'd be eager to own. Little stuff like that, which is completely meaningless on the surface (who cares if the whitewalls are still blue?), is what kills values and makes bidders very skittish. Big stuff is manageable (like the paint) and doesn't scare buyers on a car like that, but little stuff being buggered suggests a long list of small issues that will be expensive and maddening to repair. Everyone knows paint will be $25,000, but the little stuff? Who knows how expensive and whether it can even be addressed without a full restoration? That's partially why this car fell on its face. How the hell does at least the auction company not understand that presentation matters? Even if YOU don't care about something like blue crap on whitewalls when it's your car, the buyers are looking for a reason to bail out--why give it to them so easily? The white walls were indeed scrubbed and looked very clean and crisp when paired with the freshly painted black disc wheels- I actually thought it was a pretty clever trick on the part of the consignor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I will say though stained a bit the top looks pretty good for a driver / beater. I would have had a hard time passing on it if I was in the market at that auction that day. The interior looked very usable. I guess it's what your end goal is. A beater you have 30 G in or a restored car to show. From the looks of the pics. it needs everything but those tires to be restored. Though looks mostly roadworthy as is, but as Matt mentioned could have gremlins. There is alot of dampness issues I can see in the pictures. Stuff doesn't rust as much as I see unless it was in a damp basement or garage/ barn. That also leads to creep rot that you don't find until you start blasting away. Here is a link to the photos https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25219/lot/226/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 53 minutes ago, auburnseeker said: Here is a link to the photos https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25219/lot/226/ Bonhams' photographer was certainly fascinated by the rear jump seats. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Interesting. I thought the price on the Touring was relatively strong, considering that a 1929 645 dual-cowl in about the same condition just sold for about $40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer09 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Interesting. I thought the price on the Touring was relatively strong, considering that a 1929 645 dual-cowl in about the same condition just sold for about $40. bet that car could be parted for more then its sale price. A model A Ford goes for 25k.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepher Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 The roadster is a beautiful car. Good luck with the sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/9/2019 at 4:49 PM, mercer09 said: Interesting. I thought the price on the Touring was relatively strong, considering that a 1929 645 dual-cowl in about the same condition just sold for about $40. bet that car could be parted for more then its sale price. A model A Ford goes for 25k.. Perhaps, but I wouldn't take the risk because the time and work involved wouldn't make it worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer09 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I hope we see a lot more Packards at these prices............. Im in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) I was going though my archives and found these photos of the Packard roadster that started this subject. Sorry to have digressed. It's really a great-looking car! Edited March 14, 2019 by Matt Harwood (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe in Canada Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Time to play the lotto. She is a beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe in Canada Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 Sorry I forgot to say it was sold back in Oct. Went to the US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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