MochetVelo Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) This is a photo of my 1915 Overland drive shaft. The universal joint has a leather cover on each side to keep out dust and seal in grease. As you can see, the leather is deteriorating. How can such a seal be made? I see these described as "leather dust shields" and "leather grease bags" in old Automobile Topics magazines. Phil Edited March 4, 2019 by MochetVelo (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dei Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Have you checked with the Willys Overland Knight Registry? (WOKR) They have a Forums group also and bet you would get an answer there from an owner of a car like yours. Care to post a picture of your car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MochetVelo Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 Yes, I posted on the WOKT Forum, but this one gets a bit more action. I see that Dodge used leather U-Joint covers from this post on the AACA Forum. The Overland covers seem to have more of a shape to them, however. Phil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wk66 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Join the WOKR the club has the blueprints for the boot. I sewed covers for my Overland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MochetVelo Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 Thanks. I sent in my application last week. I'll try to get a copy of those prints. Phil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 You should expect that joint to be full of dirt with a hole in the cover like that. It will need a good clean and ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArticiferTom Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Your local Micheal's hobby & craft store has small leather pieces and the eyelets for building if needed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursst Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I had the same issue with my 1930 Plymouth. Take the old seals off, measure the thickness of the leather and the size, use the original one as a template for shape. Go to Tandy Leather online and order some leather that matches your size (you'll have to cut the right shape from the leather). Mine was sewn, I think at the top and bottom to make a seam for strength, so I just copied the original exactly. You'll need some heavy-duty thread, a heavy-duty needle to get thru the leather, and a heavy duty thimble or glove or something or you'll tear your fingers up. Sew it exactly like the original. Or, take it to a pro to have them sew it. Mine was held on with a baling wire type material, then twist-tied on either end to keep it in place. Fairly easy job, but any sewing needed make take a while as it's tough getting thru the leather in a quick manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MochetVelo Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 There may be enough for a pattern. I'll try removing it carefully. I have a lot of leather pieces, as I repair player pianos and organs. Do you know what type of leather was used? Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a sell Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Our 28 Chrysler used some similar ones. They had wires on both ends, and laced up the middle. Jack Corly in Gresham OR had them in stock. You might check with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursst Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 7 hours ago, MochetVelo said: There may be enough for a pattern. I'll try removing it carefully. I have a lot of leather pieces, as I repair player pianos and organs. Do you know what type of leather was used? Phil Phil, I don't remember, but it is very similar to the thin part of a baseball glove in the palm area. I can try to look into it further when I get some time away from work. I should have the receipt somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikefit Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I made mine from deer skin is easy to work with and you can sew it on the wife's machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Deer skin? Easy to work with?! Wow.... I made some shift boots out of it and found it to be the toughest stuff to sew on a machine I ever encountered. It's too soft and stretchy. It's like trying to sew Jell-o. It is unbelievably tough and probably a great choice from a durability standpoint. I would expect it to outlast cow leather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79 speedster Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 as a member of the WOKR you can get the factory prints for the covers. I had mine made by my upholster Mark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 WOKR will be a huge asset. The first employee my Dad ever hired was Dave Bell who was the Club President for many years - I recall their basement being packed with factory flat files of drawings. And a large quantity of parts (and help) are available from the members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MochetVelo Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 I sent in my WOKR application and now awaiting a reply. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICKTHEDIG Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Hi Phil, The leather looks like it has no outer surface. I wonder if they where using leather with the top grain removed and not surfaced. How is it jointed together sewn or laced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArticiferTom Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 If there like Detroit type universals, it is actually a dust cover . To keep dirt out of joint . Most are found over greased . And it is a suede material as you described . Most where sewn and had laces of clips or eyelets for leather shoelaces . And ends had heavy tie wire in sewn seam to fix to groove on either end of joint . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cutler Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 That's right Tom, Not and advert for these guys, but DCM of Michigan carries a reproduction...exactly as you describe. Only diff is no laces of clips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curti Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 This is the boot installation on my 31 Auburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cutler Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Brown in this e-bay listing. LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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