alsfarms Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 Alright. Curiosity killed the cat, including me! I went to Uncle Google to check statistical comparisons with a similar vintage Locomobile, in this case a Model L four cylinder Locomobile. The Model L (30) has a square engine at 4..5 x 4.5 bore and stroke. The Locomobile is a 283 CID. Google said that the Peerless Model 27 is a 4 x 4.6 bore and stroke and suggested that the resulting displacement would be 410 CID. This is where I raised my hand and called "bull". Double check my CID calculation and verify my calculated CID of 231 for the Peerless Model 27. I calculate CID with this formula: PI x R square x 4.6 x 4= CID I am interested to hear how you confirm my calculation or call bull on me for my calculation. The two Google sources I looked at are Concept Cars and Heritage Museum. That Peerless is a beautiful automobile for sure. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kar3516 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Al, More pictures of the 1910 Peerless for you. Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kar3516 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 And the 1906 Locomobile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alsfarms Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 Did any six cylinder Locomobile enthusiasts find good things relating to their project at Hershey this year? Let's hear how Hershey 2023 turned out. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydersclassics Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 This one has come around for sale again or still? I called about tomorrows estate sale an they said make an offer on this Locomobile. It's not an auction? When asked about condition they responded needs restoring and offered to send pictures in the morning. I remembered seeing this car before here in the forum. Cool car! At what price is it worth buying? Restoration is out of the question but waking it up ? msuwabbit Members 0 Posted 1 hour ago I saw this in an estate sale notification and thought one of you may be interested. The sale runs from 8 to 4 p.m. tomorrow. The sale is located at 3021 W. Gallman Rd. Gallman, MS 39077. By Owen Estate Sales LLC 601-850-3787 or 601-209-8206 They also have a 1955 Buick Special and a late 1970s International Scout Traveler that is in mint condition. https://www.estatesales.net/MS/Gallman/39077/3828540 Posted 1 hour ago I saw this in an estate sale notification and thought one of you may be interested. The sale runs from 8 to 4 p.m. tomorrow. The sale is located at 3021 W. Gallman Rd. Gallman, MS 39077. By Owen Estate Sales LLC 601-850-3787 or 601-209-8206 They also have a 1955 Buick Special and a late 1970s International Scout Traveler that is in mint condition. https://www.estatesales.net/MS/Gallman/39077/3828540 Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) Yes John, nice car. I've been looking for a Loco town car/ limo for years now. I managed not to buy one as it seems that they always have some kind of problem. In the mean time I have pictures of some and a collection of catalogs for the model 48. The first car posted here was for sale in the St Louis area if my memory is correct. I don't know where it went to but maybe someone here knows. I think it's a 48 made around 1927. Edited December 2, 2019 by bubba (see edit history) Quote bubba Members 474 Posted December 2, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco 90 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Very interesting Loco. I would like to know the history of the body / coachbuilder. This might be considered as heresy but when I look at it from the side, I see potential for a marvelous roadster pickup truck. Whatever its future holds, I hope it's story will unfold in this forum. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 Here we are nearly to November and closer to the end of the year 2023. What are the big Locomobile repair/restoration plans for the upcoming winter season. I am looking to get all four fenders from the 48 straightened and ready for paint and Installation. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prewarnut Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Al, How's your steering wheel restoration? -Dan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 Good Question, I have sourced the tools I need for that project but have not made my mold yet. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 I wonder what the story line is behind this picture Ed posted? Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittenbacher Frank Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 17 hours ago, alsfarms said: I wonder what the story line is behind this picture Ed posted? Al See what I found some time ago. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittenbacher Frank Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 When you watch carefully, you see the descripten of the third photo is wrong: Not a Packard but their Loco is used as camping car! The second car beside the Loco could be the PA which was also used by the Hardings. What do you think? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 It's a great Pierce.........😎 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 For the Presidential Historians among us.... Can any of the other folks sitting around that huge camp table be identified? These few pictures are certainly historically of interest. Next, does anyone know if either the Locomobile, the trusted vehicle or the other vehicle.....kinds looks like a Buffalo offering... 🙂 still in existence today? Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, edinmass said: It's a great Pierce.........😎 Indeed it is, a 66 from the heights of the radiator and of the top of the hood! One strange aspect is the lack of cowl lights and two longitudinal vents on the hood center, which were present through 1918 (early 1918 was the last 66 hp offered for open sale) but both cowl lights and hood vents were dropped for 1919-1920. Consider that the cowls were *cast* aluminum and varied by body style. Could it be a late 66 chassis with a newer cowl and hood built in 1919-1920? A factory custom for the White House? Edited November 7, 2023 by Grimy added last sentence (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittenbacher Frank Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Another detail is special about this harding-Loco: The sign on the door: What is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 It's the pre 1936 Presidential seal...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prewarnut Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 3 hours ago, alsfarms said: For the Presidential Historians among us.... Can any of the other folks sitting around that huge camp table be identified? These few pictures are certainly historically of interest. Next, does anyone know if either the Locomobile, the trusted vehicle or the other vehicle.....kinds looks like a Buffalo offering... 🙂 still in existence today? Al I can't say for sure but the man to the left holding the tea cup and looking at the camera over his right shoulder looks like Andrew Mellon, the Secretary of Treasury. His business wealth prior to government service would be on par with the other individuals seated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 Hmmm, I wonder if this camp out/picnic was sponsored by the tax payers of the day? 🙂 Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 I just reread the description under the picnic dinner. It looks like a group of buddies who were forging modern America taking a break. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted November 23, 2023 Author Share Posted November 23, 2023 As we take a break from our Locomobile projects, I wish everyone a great Thanksgiving celebration with family and friends. Al 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Williams Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 To alsfarms haven't talked to you in a long time I have the 1926 Locomobile model 90 7 passenger suburban in Idaho still working on it had to stop for awhile because of surgeries I went through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted November 24, 2023 Author Share Posted November 24, 2023 Hello Dick, What is the latest on your Model 90? Did Idaho get snow as we did here in your neighbor state? Have you read and checked out the Model 90 gathering place? How was your Thanksgiving? Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Topic: Sealing the water plates to the top of cylinders. Anyone tackle this job successfully? If so please advise as to how you sealed the water plates to the cylinders. Thank you in advance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 I have heard but not completed first hand, that sandblast the rough eroded surface of the top of the jug where the Locomobile script water manifolds'/plates mount. Then carefully use JB Weld to dress the eroded area. Best to mount in a milling machine and fly-cut this whole surface area back to a very flat gasket surface. As needed use the same procedure to the bottom side of the water manifold/plate. You will end up with two very smooth and flat gasket surfaces that are much more impervious to rust damage while in use. Al 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittenbacher Frank Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 On 12/18/2023 at 11:38 PM, ak said: Topic: Sealing the water plates to the top of cylinders. Anyone tackle this job successfully? If so please advise as to how you sealed the water plates to the cylinders. Thank you in advance. I had to do this before. Most important: Don't tighten the central nuts (fine thread and spanner size 1") too much!!! The force applied by the nut is high and the hollow cast iron water covers break easily. I used paper gaskets under the covers and re-inforced paper washers under the nuts, non-hardening sealant on one side and grease on the other side of the sealing surfaces. As explained by Al, the metal surfaces must be flat and smooth. I checked that with a feeler gauge before putting the gaskest on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHa Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 It would seem that any good gasket maker would suffice for this. It would for most any other motor. What makes this application different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittenbacher Frank Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, AHa said: It would seem that any good gasket maker would suffice for this. It would for most any other motor. What makes this application different? I think there is nothing special. Just hot water and no pressure. Quite easy. I don't like to glue things on (for example with silicone), because of the difficulties when you need to remove it again. I think there are more than one ways to do that job well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) Very nice of you to comment. Thanks. Just wondering what other have found that works, so thanks again How thick was the material you used and what is the composition of same. Cork? John Edited December 23, 2023 by ak (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittenbacher Frank Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 9 hours ago, ak said: Very nice of you to comment. Thanks. Just wondering what other have found that works, so thanks again How thick was the material you used and what is the composition of same. Cork? John Dear John, pls. see my answer in the engine related thread, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittenbacher Frank Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 The inofficial "Locomobile Service Center Germany" likes to wish you a Merry Christmas and all the best for the new year! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 I would like to echo the Christmas Wish, as shared from Frank the "Official" Locomobile Service Center in Germany and send all our kind and faithful readers, supporters and posters here on the Locomobile Gathering place a Healthy, Happy and Rewarding Christmas and New Years Celebration, from the rural outback of the US Mountain West. Al 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydersclassics Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Amen ! From Connecticut as well. Frank , is the "Locomobile Service Center Germany" working on a radiator flush / backflush system? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittenbacher Frank Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 12/24/2023 at 5:30 PM, rydersclassics said: Amen ! From Connecticut as well. Frank , is the "Locomobile Service Center Germany" working on a radiator flush / backflush system? yes but no success yet. I am preparing a report, needs a bit more of nightime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) Looks like Steve Snyder bought the town car previously posted and has it cleaned up and running now. No price given. It looks a lot better with the right tires on it. https://www.vaultcars.com/cars-for-sale/1921-locomobile-model-48/ Edited December 27, 2023 by alsancle (see edit history) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted December 29, 2023 Author Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) Update from Bob of Steering Wheel Bob. I spoke with Bob Monetti today and received sad news from him. His Christmas and Holidays were not cheery. His wife took sick a while before Christmas and progressively got worse and worse until she passed two days ago. Her funeral will take place tomorrow. Bob told me that they had been married for 63 years. What a nice tribute to a marriage commitment! My condolences and sympathy go to Bob and his family at the passing of his wife. He is planning to get back to his steering wheel restoration business as soon as possible, with his son, as he feels being busy with something, that he is good at and is uplifting, will help him cope with this sad time. Al Edited December 29, 2023 by alsfarms Spelling (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 42 minutes ago, alsfarms said: Update from OB of Steering Wheel Bob. I spoke with Bob Monetti today and received sad news from him. His Christmas and Holidays were not cheery. His wife took sick a while before Christmas and progressively got worse and worse until she passed two days ago. Her funeral will take place tomorrow. Bob told me that they had been married for 63 years. What a nice tribute to a marriage commitment! My condolences and sympathy go to Bob and his family at the passing of his wife. He is planning to get back to his steering wheel restoration business as soon as possible, with his son, as he feels being busy with something, that he is good at and is uplifting, will help him cope with this sad time. Al Al, Thats very sad news. Bob is a great guy!. He is correct to stay busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydersclassics Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Steve Snyder had the 21 Locomobile at San Marino Classic, Lacy Park August 27th. I couldn't get any good pictures between the car placement and crowd. We talked briefly about the first start wake her up work and the temporary fuel tank she was running on at the show. The next owner will have a big advantage as a result of Vault's efforts. What a grand automobile! Hope we get to see this car again down the road. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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