edinmass Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 OK, here we go, a bunch of Packards that probably have never been seen before. ID as many as you can. After all. I am a Pierce guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 A few did not show up, I'll try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 :confused: And another try....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 OK gentelmen, chew on those for a little while.......It sure would be nice to have an ID one each. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Can anyone shed light on what happened to this 1005 Dietrich? I've been assured it has not shown up in publications, photos, shows, etc. in decades - most likely the result of being rebodied, and not a casualty loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I don't quite understand the thought on the second part of your post.:confused: Are you asking if the body in the photo was taken off and replaced with something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Are you asking if the body in the photo was taken off and replaced with something else?I'm asking if anyone knows. This isn't from my era of interest, but I'm always interested in learning about nice unmolested cars that undergo a transformation such as rebodying. It's possible one of the thread viewers may know something about the car in the 1957 photo which was probably rebodied or parted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Perhaps this is Doc Clemens' car? I saw it about 10 years ago. Doc owned it since the early 60s and it was never at any shows or publicly displayed to my knolwedge. After he died 5 or 6 years ago it disappeared.Btw, I can't imagine this car would have been rebodied? Maybe if it was an 8 and got made into a twelve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Packard12Man Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 re Door Hinge Puzzle - West, I knew mentioning the Marano Dietrich would come back to haunt me. I am aware that his car is somewhat of an anomaly - I only mentioned it because it is the only conv. sedan that I am certain has jump seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) I agree with Al. I can't imagine anyone rebodying that car. It'd be interesting to know what happened to it. There are a few big-time collections, such as the Lee collection in Nevada, where a car like this gets swallowed up and no one ever sees it again. Edited February 8, 2011 by West Peterson (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 A 34 Dietrich at Pebble this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 This next photo confirms that they were popular. You should see some of the colors they painted the cars going to India. It still continues today. They love wild colors. Can you ID these cars?The two Packards in the foreground are 37 Super 8s - do you know what the original colors were? The first one must be the Rollston phaeton and the second a standard Packard body, probably a 1502 lwb 7 pass sedan. The only possible standard factory colors would be Packard ivory or Iridium gray that would show up that light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 OK, here we go, a bunch of Packards that probably have never been seen before. ID as many as you can. After all. I am a Pierce guy. Ok, correct me if I am wrong, but from left to right from the top - 36 120 Dietrich convertible sedan, 32 Std 8 7 pass touring, 34 Std 8 7 pass touring, 41 110 with factory air, 37 120 Dietrich convertible sedan, 41 120 conv sedan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 :confused: And another try.......37 120 sedan, not sure - 31 or 32 phaeton?, 34 Std 8 phaeton or 7 pass touring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) None of the early open cars are phaetons. The green one is a 1932 standard eight 7-passenger touring, and the red/orange one is a 1934 standard-eight 7-passenger touring (rare disc wheels), the blue/silver one is a 1934 standard eight touring (rare disc wheels, again), and the white one looks to be a 1932 touring as well.Among other things, those carriage-style door handles were only used on the tourings. That exact same body was used from 1927-1934, no changes. Very "antiquey" looking by 1934. Disc wheels in 1933 and 1934, as I said, are a rare sighting today (at least in the U.S.... it doesn't look too rare in India). Edited February 8, 2011 by West Peterson (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) The green 1941 sedan is a 110 model... WITH AIR CONDITIONING! The only 110 I've ever seen with factory air conditioning. I've seen advertisements stating that a/c was available on 110s, but this is the only car I've seen with it. Edited February 8, 2011 by West Peterson (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) Both of these appear to be 1935-1937 Model 120s (???). I'm not sure how to tell the differences between 1935-1937, but since the red one has 1937 parking lights, I'm going to assume 1937. Edited February 8, 2011 by West Peterson (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 This one is a 1941 120 convertible sedan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 The two tone green one isn't a 38/39 120, look at the cast flat windshield and the early bumper with wrap around ends, and narrower grill. It is hard to tell from this angle, but it could be the same "Dietrich" badged conv sedan body that is on the 37 120. I think it is a 35/36 120. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) you're right. The chrome strips under the headlights threw me. I see now that it looks like they used chrome fender welt, which looked like the '38-'39 trim they used.I went back and fixed my mistake. Edited February 8, 2011 by West Peterson (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoning63 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Just came acroos this "1938 Packard Super 8 Greber." Never saw it before. Not much info on the internet.Image of 1938 Packard super 8 Greber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Packard12Man Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 1937 Glaser Bodied Twelve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoning63 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Wow, never knew such a car existed!! I have been working for some time on a design for a mid-Thirties Packard and Pierce-Arrow sport sedan of somewhat similar proportions with v-windshield. Nice to see that somebody back then was thinking along those lines. Interesting that the Europeans were more enamored than the Americans.Thanks for the post! Wonder what other revelations are out there waiting to be discovered.Paul West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Rollston bodied '34, unrestored and supposedly owned by a Vanderbilt when new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Thanks for the photo of the 34 Rollston town car - it looks similar to bodies they put on Duesenberg chassis. Interesting that the Vanderbilts put it on a Standard 8. It would probably look pretty good cleaned up. Do you think that the shutters were originally black? This is another car that would most likely look better with blackwalls. If they opted for black shutters, I doubt they went for whites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Thanks for posting the photos of the 37 Glaser. I was going to put some up of that one, but I don't have any this recent. I would like to see that car in person. I rather like it with the top down, ready for a tour in the Danish countryside on a sunny afternoon. The original owner of the 36 Norrmalm had a house in Denmark and I have wondered if the cars ever crossed paths when new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Note the chrome shell on the 38 Super Graber. I just wish they would put on a prewar cormorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Ed, have you been to India and seen any of these cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwa Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I was talking with Warner Neill about this forum and he send the following:This is a photo I found in an antique shop on the way up to Hershey about ten years ago - quite an interesting and gorgeous car. 1937 Packard SU8 Franay.jpg119K View Download Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozstatman Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 jwa,Can't see the pic, looks like it was embedded in the text you quoted. Think you'll have to download the picture as an attachment to your post, see the Attach Files in the Additional Options area when creating posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwa Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 heck i can't get it to up load. Someone that can post it send me your email address and i'll send it to you. jerry.ashley28694@gmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 243 limo with Holbrook body. I sat in the driver's seat, and it was very cramped, but there was tons of room behind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozstatman Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 heck i can't get it to up load. Someone that can post it send me your email address and i'll send it to you. jerry.ashley28694@gmail.comEmail sent Jerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Ed, have you been to India and seen any of these cars?A great site for finding pictures of prewar cars in India is here. The 540 pictures I posted can be found there.Pre-War - Team-BHP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 The Holbrook is a clean, simple design that was undoubtedly expensive in its day, authentically restored and the blackwalls look good. Were the appointments inside unusual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I spent some time in India in 1970. Years later I saw a 16 cylinder Caddy at Hershey that I knew just by its color had to have been brought back from India. It was a pinkish sort of red that is a common color for stucco found thruout India. Wish I'd known more about Classic cars when I was there. By then most of the Maharajahs had fallen on hard times but their estates were mostly still intact at least to some extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 A 37 Super 8 town car - photo courtesy of Warner Neill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Here's a famous Dietrich some may recall, no longer with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Here's a famous Dietrich some may recall, no longer with us.Why is it no longer with us?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 Thanks for posting the photo of the 37 parade car - that is a view that I have never seen. It is really a shame that it burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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