twin6 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Those of you at Hershey in 2004 may have been fortunate enough to see this wonderful Rollston bodied 2nd series 8 cloverleaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K8096 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 That Rollston cloverleaf roadster was mostly original as well. I thought the big Packard collector from central Illinois bought it and still has it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Can anyone shed light on the body maker for this 343? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K8096 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 That body looks similar to a deCausse styled Franklin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Here is a 745 with body by Letourneau and Marchand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted February 27, 2011 Author Share Posted February 27, 2011 The Letourneau & Marchand of the Snyder's is really an interesting car with an interesting history. If I am correct, it was purchased by a South American when new and shipped there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 A Demarest bodied third series twin, model 3-35 (1920) with actress Rubye de Remer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Babe Ruth in a 3rd series twin six runabout with custom body. Who built the body, and does anyone have a decent photo of the entire car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted February 27, 2011 Author Share Posted February 27, 2011 Great photo of Babe Ruth. What year is it? That is a very smooth, curved body for the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Great photo of Babe Ruth. What year is it? That is a very smooth, curved body for the time.I believe 1920. Rear section of the body was cigar shaped, so unlike speedsters or other runabouts. There has to be a decent photo, somewhere, so let's hope someone has one and will share.For that matter, let's hope some more contributors post some interesting photos to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted February 27, 2011 Author Share Posted February 27, 2011 I certainly appreciate the ones you are posting and welcome all others as well. I find them very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Period photo of a Rollston, 1940 in NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted February 28, 2011 Author Share Posted February 28, 2011 Great street photo of the 40 town car - I like the driver in uniform and also the man talking to him - another driver or maybe a doorman or the footman who was with him waiting to open the door for the lady after a hard day's shopping in Bergdorf's. The razor edge is accentuated with the front roof closed. Notice the blackwalls also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 443 with a Brewster "Paddington" body. That's a lot of car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Packard12Man Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 In reference to my previous post #402 (on page 17) - regarding 11th series Dietrich Conv Sedan door hinges. I received an e-mail from a Dietrich owner, who was not able to answer my question as to why, but the 2 Conv. Sedans with the 3 door hinges are also alone amongst all 9th, 10th and 11th series Dietrich's of all styles, fitted from new with a cowl brace. Maybe the answer is lost to time. Below photo's of a '32 Twin Six Conv. Sedan by Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 The 32 Murphy is an interesting car from the Pollard collection where I saw it some years ago. It looks very similar to bodies Murphy did in 27/28, such as the car that won BOS at Pebble for Phil Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 The 443 Brewster is also an interesting car, tall and formal with very appropriate period colors. I like limousines and formal cars a lot - they were often the best appointed, most luxurious and most expensive bodies. I'd like to see the interior of this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 34 Dietrich sedan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 One would look a long time to find a better looking closed car, Dave. Not sure who combines formal lines and some element of sportiness better than Dietrich did. Thanks for putting this one up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 645 Dietrich, owned for many years by a former AACA president and Packard collector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 One would look a long time to find a better looking closed car, Dave. Not sure who combines formal lines and some element of sportiness better than Dietrich did. Thanks for putting this one up!I'll go one farther and say that this is as good looking as most open cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 645 Dietrich dual cowl phaeton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packardbarry Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Period photo of a Rollston, 1940 in NYC.:eek: Thought i was looking at the same car for a min. Upcoming GOODING Auction1941 Packard 160 Super Eight Town Car | Gooding and Company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted March 2, 2011 Author Share Posted March 2, 2011 32 Dietrichs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 I'm a big fan of that Super Eight convertible coupe. I love the large headlights vs the small ones they put on the Twelves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K8096 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Somewhere out there is a picture of a 1932 Packard Eight with a Dietrich convertible sedan body on it taken in the Packard showroom in Toledo, Ohio. If someone has that one, please post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted March 6, 2011 Author Share Posted March 6, 2011 37 115 Graber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoning63 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I'll go one farther and say that this is as good looking as most open cars.Feel the same way about the '33-34 Dietrich Sport Sedan. one of the best closed cars of the period. Would add the '41 LeBaron Sport Brougham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 37 115 GraberI'll take the Nash-Healey in the window! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John_Lawrence Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Here is a photo of a 1938 Packard 1608 Kellner Torpedo-Cabriolet currently being exhibited at the Blackhawk Automotive Museum in Danville, California. It is interesting because the body is from a mid-1930s Renault Suprastella Torpedo. The story goes the owner felt the need for a new automobile as her Renault was beginning to show its age. However, she had become fond of the Renault’s body and interior, and did not want to part with them. She satisfied both needs by having the Renault body and the Packard chassis married. The photo does not do justice to the wrap around green house of the passenger compartment. There are windows with narrow frames on the front and sides. The interior is gorgeous, with brocade fabric and burled wood for the hard surfaces. The interior of an exterior mounted trunk is also finished with the same material as the passenger compartment. A Rene Lalique “Vicorie” radiator grill ornament is a stunning feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen_Dyneto Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Body swaps onto newer chassis certainly had it's era with the wealthy. I've probably posted these before, but just in case....The Barbara Hutton car, Brewster body on a 35 Twelve (Jim Pearsall photo)The Ruth Gordon car, Pierce body on a 37 Twelve (my photo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 Feel the same way about the '33-34 Dietrich Sport Sedan. one of the best closed cars of the period. Would add the '41 LeBaron Sport Brougham.Agreed, absolutely. I like the Sport Broughams a lot. I think they are great looking and better than the open 41s. These were expensive semi customs and considering how down the market was in 41 and how few seniors they sold, the Sport Broughams were a real success. I like the thin chrome window frames and the "hard top" styling with the trunk and the sharp line that defines the belt from the top at the back. The proportions are excellent and fit nicely on the middle wheelbase. They also have very nice interiors with great wood trim. All in all a great car. You can see why Packard dropped the Darrin sedan from the catalog and added the LeBaron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 Body swaps onto newer chassis certainly had it's era with the wealthy. I've probably posted these before, but just in case....The Barbara Hutton car, Brewster body on a 35 Twelve (Jim Pearsall photo)The Ruth Gordon car, Pierce body on a 37 Twelve (my photo).Thanks for posting - I don't remember the Hutton car. Does it still exist? That is really interesting and doesn't look as jarring as the Pierce body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 The Kellner is an interesting car too. I haven't seen it for years, but I recall that the interior was nice. I wonder how much work they had to do to refit it - the Packard chassis must be larger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 This Rollston bodied 31 is for sale. Anyone have a period picture? Great looking car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted March 9, 2011 Author Share Posted March 9, 2011 Hmmm, they can't seem to decide if it is a Waterhouse or Rollston... Here are both Waterhouse and Rollstons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 I think they are saying that it's a Rollston in the "Waterhouse Style". Waterhouse bodies bring more money so I would imagine that is why they are making the association. Is the history of this car known? I really like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted March 9, 2011 Author Share Posted March 9, 2011 If it is a Rollston, you can most likely get the info on the original owner as most of the records still exist in the hands of a family member. I don't know this particular car. O'Quinn owning it doesn't really mean much other than he liked it when he saw it at auction or his Canadian advisors told him to buy it. I don't think he did great research on the cars he bought, especially the first years he was buying. The two period photos I posted show Rollstons with coach sills and the Waterhouses are straight. I think Bill Snyder (Ohio/Florida) has a Rollston conv victoria. Waterhouse built a series of them for Packard, so there could be more Waterhouses than Rollstons surviving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Block Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Apologies in advance for the poor view of this town car (I may have better pics home) snapped at John Scales' Packard Restoration Co. last winter. Those familiar with this business may know he closed and relocated, and his background has been the subject of discussion on this and other forums. Regardless of the status of the business, this is a very interesting car and he was a good host to our local AACA region. I cannot recall the coachbuilder but remember it as coming out of a Newport, RI estate and the top was tortoise skin (I assume the skin that sits on the shell) which is now illegal to obtain?I understand restoration stopped on many of these cars and he has since relocated but I do not know any more details including the fate of this unrestored, but complete town car. IMG_1318A | Flickr - Photo Sharing!You can see other cars once you get to this site, but most of what he had were very rough, relatively common closed Sr. models of the late 30s.BTW The well fed guy in the glasses and salmon shirt on the right is me...nice set of photos. thanks for sharing Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mitchell Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) Dietrich sedan at Pebble Edited March 10, 2011 by Dave Mitchell (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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