Mattml430 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Well I got stuck into a new restoration today. It’s for Ben and his grandfather bought it new in 1925 so he wants it back to show room condition or maybe a little better. It’s so nice to have a car to restore that has such a great family history, it makes it all the more special to do I think. I’ve done a few little bits on it before today but today was the start of getting the body of the chassis. The car is pretty complete which is great, will have to hunt down a few bits but she’s pretty much all there. First up was getting it all cleaned up and a few years of dust and dirt out of her. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) A lot of the timber work will need replacing but it’s all there so making new parts will be made easier with it all there. inside the back seat. The old wood borers have got into a lot of it. Front seat. A few more bolts and the body will be off. Edited March 27, 2023 by Mattml430 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 Going off the kick panel plate number it was built in very late of 1924. A321964 A393-650. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minibago Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Nice project Matt, very satisfying when completed and you will be some years quicker than most of us. Keep the photos coming please. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Matt, that looks like a 2 week project for you. I like the rear bumper, looks pretty strong. Was it a home made piece or accessory? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 Haha maybe a bit longer. Yeah it’s a solid old bumper for sure. It was made as a tow bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lawson Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Mattml430 said: Haha maybe a bit longer. Yeah it’s a solid old bumper for sure. It was made as a tow bar. Matt You could stand 3 more passengers on that as long as the top was down so they had something to hang on to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nat Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 So THAT'S what the original woodwork looked like. Varnished toe board? Was linoleum an option? The running boards on my 24' are steel. Were they originally wood? Do you know what species of wood was used for the interior framing and/or running boards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 6 hours ago, nat said: So THAT'S what the original woodwork looked like. Varnished toe board? Was linoleum an option? The running boards on my 24' are steel. Were they originally wood? Do you know what species of wood was used for the interior framing and/or running boards? There might have been a bit of varnish on there at one stage but not anymore. Most of the running boards I’ve seen have been steel but who knows what has happened over the last 99 years, I will be replacing them with the standard steel ones. As far as the timber goes it’s hard to say as I think back then they used whatever was available. I will be replacing most of the timber in this with Vic ash and some European ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 Today we got the body off and everything steam cleaned ready for sand blasting. I had some great help today from Grant giving me a hand undoing everything and cleaning the chassis down. It’s definitely easier with 2 of us getting the body off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 The body is in reasonable shape. A lot of timber and the lower sills will need replacing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) I straightened the front guards out a bit before I pulled them off. They are hard to hold down when trying to repair them so I thought a bit of panel work on them while they were bolted to the chassis. The scuttles or side aprons will need the top section replaced as they’ve been victims to rust. Edited March 28, 2023 by Mattml430 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 I’m putting together a bit of a list for Tom & Cindy at Myers. Will need to pull the engine down before I finish that of. I managed to chase up a radiator surround today as the one we have has the bottom missing out of it. I need the new surround before I send the radiator up to Bob to be rebuilt. Also looking for some hood irons if anyone knows of any down under. Ron has offered us some saddles and is bringing them over to us when he does his trip. Thanks Ronny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minibago Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 I have a few bits of hood irons Matt, I will take some photos on the weekend for you to look at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jari12 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 I'm looking forward to following along on another one of your projects. It's a pleasure to watch your work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Matt, it looks as though the car was black originally. There's a Aussie '23 touring here that I am familiar with the is the same color yellow as this one. It had dark blue fenders. Were Aussie cars painted in colors from the factory or black? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Minibago said: I have a few bits of hood irons Matt, I will take some photos on the weekend for you to look at. Thanks Nige that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 4 hours ago, nearchoclatetown said: Matt, it looks as though the car was black originally. There's a Aussie '23 touring here that I am familiar with the is the same color yellow as this one. It had dark blue fenders. Were Aussie cars painted in colors from the factory or black? It looks to me that the car would have arrived here with the cowl, bonnet and guards/fenders or wings for the poms 😂in black. Then it’s been painted in the cream colour by the body builder. The body has no black on it at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) Cool, was not sure if they were still shipping cab and chassis at this time but it seems they were. Black is boring when they are painted the same. Edited March 29, 2023 by nearchoclatetown (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 IS it in primer yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 If the sand blaster had of turned up it would have been. The rain is buggering him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 It's been awful quiet for a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minibago Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 The rain has affected quite a few folk. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 What could go wrong? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 Electric cars are just so awesome aren’t they.🤬 No poisonous gases to kill you but you may get electrocuted trying to charge it. If you don’t get electrocuted the lithium battery will catch fire when it gets wet with water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 Got the engine and gearbox out today and will pull the engine down in a few days to see what we need to rebuild it. the chassis is in such great shape. Slightly bent on the front left hand side but nothing that can’t be fixed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 All the head nuts are undone an are soaking to help free the head up. Has a slight bit of movement in it so it should lift of tomorrow just fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minibago Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Matt, Should the rear engine mount frame be between the engine and gearbox bell housing rather than behind the gearbox bell housing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 8 hours ago, Minibago said: Matt, Should the rear engine mount frame be between the engine and gearbox bell housing rather than behind the gearbox bell housing? Yes agreed for sure, it made it interesting getting it all out. Otherwise it’s an engine out to do a clutch job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 That's a gorgeous piece of property (heaven) to play on. The ole girl looks like shes in good hands.. Enjoy! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 If that is the back 40 no wonder things are moving along slowly. Do the roos come in the yard? When Ron gets there things will pick up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 3 hours ago, nearchoclatetown said: If that is the back 40 no wonder things are moving along slowly. Do the roos come in the yard? When Ron gets there things will pick up. No Roos here Doug just cows. We are in the middle of our neighbours 200 acres. We have 3 cows he has a couple of hundred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 Ben is searching for some photos of his car to share with us. He said it was used as an engine for the sawmill. They ran a flat belt of the back left hand wheel in 2nd gear at 12mph. That was a good speed for the saw. The rear guard was removed to fit the belt. You can see here where the flat belt has rubbed on the inner guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) The flywheel must weigh a ton. How did you handle removing it? It seems like a lot of stress on the rear flange of the engine mounting to the engine stand. Is that how they did it back in the day? Edited April 3, 2023 by MikeC5 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minibago Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Yes Mike, the flywheel is very heavy but still able to be lifted by us old folk, it is always removed before mounting on the engine stand. It often causes the crankshaft to crack / break lugging in top gear after 100 years of use. The late Ralph Provan recommended removal of a third of the outer rim thickness and balancing in conjunction with the crankshaft and the clutch assembly, this makes for much nicer gear changing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 It will take a good size lathe to turn that down! Are you planning to replace the clutch pins? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minibago Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 No these are not worn very much at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted April 4, 2023 Author Share Posted April 4, 2023 9 hours ago, MikeC5 said: It will take a good size lathe to turn that down! Are you planning to replace the clutch pins? I took a bit off the Victory 6 flywheel. It does make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted April 4, 2023 Author Share Posted April 4, 2023 Started on the engine disassembly today. It’s had a rebuild at some stage with 040” oversized pistons. Overall so far it looks pretty tidy. The water gallery’s look nice and clean. The pots and exhaust look a bit wet with oil so it's due for another freshen up. You can tell it’s lived a bit of its life in the grain fields as there’s a bit of grain seed behind all the timing chain and gears. Must of come through the crank hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpgp1999 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Are you planning on reusing the valves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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