John348 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Pfeil said: Only problem with houses like that are maintenance. Just painting alone on the outside is like taking on the painting project of the Golden Gate bridge. By the time you finish, it's time to start all over again. I am going through that now Pfiel with my house in NY, I hate it,,,,,,,, I f'n hate it.! This will be the last time in my life I will do it one way or the other. It is so mundane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I love those big grand ole houses! Keeps the kids in new shoes! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeil Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, John348 said: I am going through that now Pfiel with my house in NY, I hate it,,,,,,,, I f'n hate it.! This will be the last time in my life I will do it one way or the other. It is so mundane. Guys, don't get me wrong on that house - I like it. When I was in my 20'a 30's 50's my wife and I loved the Victorian, Tudor - Half Timber, Cape Cod and Craftsman style houses. We still do, however our bodies have a rough time doing all the delicate and time consuming type of prep and finish work these type of houses require. Below is a picture of one of the houses in our neighborhood in Prescott AZ. I don't know the style you would call it but these houses are easy to paint and maintain and they need to be because at 5,000 feet they must endure snow and heat low humidity. When you get older your priorities change in the decision making of buying a house. I would love a Victorian, but these days I would like to love it from afar rather that being a slave to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhigdog Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Pfeil said: Guys, don't get me wrong on that house - I like it. When I was in my 20'a 30's 50's my wife and I loved the Victorian, Tudor - Half Timber, Cape Cod and Craftsman style houses. We still do, however our bodies have a rough time doing all the delicate and time consuming type of prep and finish work these type of houses require. Below is a picture of one of the houses in our neighborhood in Prescott AZ. I don't know the style you would call it but these houses are easy to paint and maintain and they need to be because at 5,000 feet they must endure snow and heat low humidity. When you get older your priorities change in the decision making of buying a house. I would love a Victorian, but these days I would like to love it from afar rather that being a slave to it. Yeah, but mowing those rocks is a bitch.....bob 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hidden_hunter Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 10 hours ago, zepher said: I seriously need to get out of the People's Republic of Kalifornia and move to somewhere cheaper. That same $330k wouldn't even get you a one bedroom condo out here. The prices here are also an absolute disgrace, about 5 miles out of the centre of Melbourne you're looking at a tiny block costing $2m+ (mostly because they made it very very attractive to property developers so they build everything and anything to put rubbish side by sides on them) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeil Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 14 hours ago, Bhigdog said: Yeah, but mowing those rocks is a bitch.....bob Fortunately those rocks don't grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhigdog Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Pfeil said: Fortunately those rocks don't grow. Unless they're in your gall bladder.....😋........Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepher Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 9:06 AM, Pfeil said: Only problem with houses like that are maintenance. Just painting alone on the outside is like taking on the painting project of the Golden Gate bridge. By the time you finish, it's time to start all over again. This is the very reason I bought an airless sprayer years ago when I had rental property. Keeping up with the paint maintenance takes forever if you don't use power tools. I checked the cost to rent a sprayer and I could pay for the sprayer outright after just 2 uses compared to renting. That airless has been used dozens of times by myself and family/friends so it has more than paid for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepher Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bhigdog said: Unless they're in your gall bladder.....😋........Bob Or your kidneys. Ever had kidney stones? If not, trust me, you don't ever want them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim65 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Wish I could move to states , love that blue house 375k amazing , that’s less than my 2 bed town house with no garage , here in Southampton Uk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Just as we car fans may know good paint procedures, so do house-painters have their knowledge. From my work in the building industry, I have heard: ---Some materials hold paint much better than others. Redwood, Western Red Cedar, etc. are among the best. My parents used one of the better woods and their paint NEVER peeled. They repainted every 10 years to keep it fresh. ---Fiber-cement siding (Hardie Plank is one brand) is said to hold paint extremely well. ---And naturally, brick and genuine stone need less maintenance. So keep up those dreams as you keep up your house and your expanding car collection! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Pilgrim65 said: Wish I could move to states , love that blue house 375k amazing , that’s less than my 2 bed town house with no garage , here in Southampton Uk I think we can accommodate an extra Brit or two!🙂 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeil Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, zepher said: This is the very reason I bought an airless sprayer years ago when I had rental property. Keeping up with the paint maintenance takes forever if you don't use power tools. I checked the cost to rent a sprayer and I could pay for the sprayer outright after just 2 uses compared to renting. That airless has been used dozens of times by myself and family/friends so it has more than paid for itself. You can pressure wash, spot prime and spray on a 2500 SQ. Ft. stucco house single story in my neighborhood in 4 days and that includes window taping. Just my wife and me. And I do have a commercial sprayer. But that "all wood house" with all that trim would take forever with all the sanding, priming and a first coat of different color paints which all have to be done by brush. Further coats on large pieces can be sprayed, but the important sanding, priming and first coat must be done by hand or you'll be doing it again much sooner than you think. Edited September 17, 2021 by Pfeil (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepher Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I know how much work those older homes can be. When I was in my 20's I helped a friend restore a 1918 Craftsman he bought. Like anything else, prep is key. We had to hand cut the individual shingles for the outside of the house since there were none available in the size we needed to replace most of the outside wood of the house. House also still had the 2 wire knobbie wiring throughout so stripping the outside helped with replacing that with modern Romex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On painting houses, I have a friend that his in-laws had a house built probably in the teens or 20's. On painting the house he would paint one side every year and the next year paint the next side. In 4 years the house would be painted. He never painted the whole house in one year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 9:56 AM, John_S_in_Penna said: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/184-Congress-St-Bradford-PA-16701/127241589_zpid/? Here's a grand old house for sale in northern Penna. for $375,000. Such a price might not get you anything in the nice parts of New Jersey; but here, it is one of the more expensive properties. Just an enticement: My wife wanted one of those "painted ladies" a number of years ago. I told her if she wanted one a lot, we would just build a new one. The maintenance on a 100+ year old house can drive you broke or crazy... or both. Best movie to watch to confirm that is "The Money Pit" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, Larry Schramm said: My wife wanted one of those "painted ladies" a number of years ago. I told her if she wanted one a lot, we would just build a new one. The maintenance on a 100+ year old house can drive you broke or crazy... or both. You have a really good point about maintenance, Larry. But I see a good car analogy: You can buy an existing house (or car) that's already in excellent condition. It's much cheaper than constructing one from scratch. Say that house is 5000 square feet. To match its detail and quality would be about $300/square foot, or $1,500,000. The existing house, already restored, is $375,000. The $1,125,000 difference that you save can be invested to pay for decades of maintenance; a nice vacation; and several enjoyable antique cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Sometimes. One of the cars that I bought was in good condition, but it was not driven much. I have been driving the miles out of it and it took about 2 years to make it a very dependable vehicle sorting out mostly the little stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Larry Schramm said: On painting houses, I have a friend that his in-laws had a house built probably in the teens or 20's. On painting the house he would paint one side every year and the next year paint the next side. In 4 years the house would be painted. He never painted the whole house in one year. Larry, I have been doing same one side a year plan myself. now I don't want to do it all! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) I just look up my first house I bought.. I paid 55k for it with 20 percent down.. It was a great house built in 1917. I thing my payments were $232 or $323 a month.. I did park the kaiser Darrin and the 55 Chev at the house.. Will have to look for pictures someday.. The house had 27 rooms.. If you count every room in the house.. Boiler room, Coal room .. etc.. Edited September 22, 2021 by nick8086 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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