deaddds Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Trying to figure out what these may fit. I thought they were for my 31 Olds but its a 6 hole rim and these are 5. I bead blasted one to see if there were any specific stamps but didnt find any. Forced me to prime it so it wont flash rust. Photos to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Manuel Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 They could be Dodge-Plymouth. Do they have 36 spokes? Is the centre hole 2 3/4"? What is the PCD? Manuel in Oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Harley Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 A 1932 Ford 18" (tire) rim.....?🤨 Capt. Harley 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Henderson Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 It's a wheel for a Ford. Figure out what size tire bead fits it, 18" would be '32 Ford, 17" is '33-'34, 16" is '35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F&J Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dave Henderson said: It's a wheel for a Ford. Figure out what size tire bead fits it, 18" would be '32 Ford, 17" is '33-'34, 16" is '35. Every detail and every picture says Ford except the last pic trying to show the measure from 2 opposing holes. But..... I honestly think that is the camera angle making it look like a much smaller bolt pattern than Ford 5-1/2: bolt circle. You measure from the outside edge of one hole to the middle of the opposing hole, and it should be very close to 5.5". I've always been a huge fan of early wire wheels/styling for 5 decades...one odd thing that seems to be unique to Ford wires is that the outer/longest spokes only cross another outer spoke just once. Most, if not all other car brands I have seen, the longest spokes cross twice, meaning they cross two other spokes at some point. here are two below from web pics, first one said Chevy/Pontiac, then Plymouth. ...note that the outer spokes cross two other spokes Edited August 2, 2020 by F&J (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Chrysler products of the era had adjustable spokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Are you sure this isn’t just Ed adding more tease to his mysterious car he just purchased? dave s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Not me! Sure looks like a 1932 drop center Kelsey-Hayes to me........not sure of application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 NOT Ford, all 1926-1935 Ford wires were welded spokes. Photos are from a 16" 1935 wire I have. Sure would be fun to watch the wheels being made. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 47 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said: NOT Ford, all 1926-1935 Ford wires were welded spokes. Photos are from a 16" 1935 wire I have. Sure would be fun to watch the wheels being made. Bob The wire wheel in question has welded spokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F&J Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 hours ago, edinmass said: ........not sure of application. "Application(s).....We've been duped. lol .... what I mean is that there are two different wheels there. Ford wire wheels do not have the raised bumps in the pic below. Ford put the bumps on the brake drums. The bumps, no matter where the company put them, are needed to be able to tighten the lugs without deflecting the surrounding metal. The first wheel he showed does not have these, so that one is likely Ford with the 5.5 bolt circle. When I questioned the last pic measuring between holes, it just looked like a smaller bolt pattern,.... I said it might be camera angle, but I now think that one is definitely a smaller pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaddds Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 I rechecked the rim. The large hole is 3.5" across. Cross bolt hole is 5.5" and there are 32 spokes. On a side note. This is the one NOT like the other 3. Arrrr. The other 3 ARE the same. 5.5x 18 tires still mounted but the rims are 19.5" across. Center hole is roughly 2.75" across. Cross bolt holes roughly 4 5/8" across. They have 40 spokes. So are these other 3 GM? I gotta quit trusting and verify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaddds Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 The primer was still wet so I used one of the other 3 for the holes. Got home from a run and really looked at them and it dawned on me they are different. So the primer one is the Ford. Did I at least get GM wires for the other 3? Now I will look for 1 to match the 3. Suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doozer Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 7 hours ago, F&J said: Application(s).....We've been duped. lol .... what I mean is that there are two different wheels there. we’ve been duped...😂 LOL. Funny guy 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akstraw Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Looks very much like the wheels on my 1932 Detroit Electric. I will have to make some measurements tomorrow to be sure. I have no idea who was DE's supplier, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaddds Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 Here are front and back of the other wheels. I triple checked that the other 3 are the same. Measurements posted a couple spaces up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaddds Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 Any ideas on these last wire photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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