gregchrysler Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Hello again I have a 49 chrysler 251 ci 6 cylinder spitfire and trouble starting -bought battery and starter to ace armature and they both bench tested fine . Then put back in engine and only one click no start bought new battery cables still no start jumped positive to solenoid get one click - so anyone have any great ideas? could it be voltage regulator? thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Is the motor locked up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Check your ground connections. Is the transmission messed up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Did you get the right cables, 6v are twice as big as the 12v cables commonly sold. Did they test them on 6 or 12v? If the starter battery and solenoid are good all that is left is bad cables or loose or dirty connections. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregchrysler Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 motor flex plate turns freely I always had 12 volt battery cables for years and started right up is 1 click from solenoid a voltage problem thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthcranbrook Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) Jut for sh*ts and grins try another known good battery. I have had batteries test ok and then fail under a strong load. Also as was suggested make sure that the engine of the car is not locked up for some unknown reason. Edited March 16, 2019 by plymouthcranbrook (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregchrysler Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 flex plate moves easily rocked car about 2 feet forward and back no problem it's go to be something simple tried jumping negative (positive ground) to strarter trigger and one click no start also put ground directly to ground on solenoid one click negative to bolt in starter turns the motor great but no bendix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregchrysler Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 if flex plate turns motor should be ok and press on clutch to make sure not in gear can overdrive lock everything up??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54vicky Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I do not have any better advice than what you have been given.when you said battery tested good did they use a carbon pile to test?or just volt meter.if meter that will not show true condition as a load test will.also you asked about voltage regulator in early post but no one answered so I will no it will not affect starting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 If the battery is perfect and the cables are perfect and the relay is perfect and the solenoid is perfect and the starter is perfect and the ground is perfect and there are no loose or dirty connections hop in and go for a ride, there is nothing wrong with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Have you tried jumping the solenoid? I had that problem with my '59 Chevy 6 banger. Turned out to be the ignition switch...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
certjeff1 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 What happened before this? Was the car in storage for the winter? Had you been making repairs to another problem? How long since it last started correctly? Did you just go to the store one day and no start since? Put a voltmeter on the battery and try to start the car. Watch the voltmeter what does the voltage drop to? If it crashes you either have a locked up motor or a battery that will not handle the load. If it does not drop at all you most likely have a cable problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregchrysler Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 reverse went-- that that have anything to do with starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregchrysler Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 if I push down on clutch should be no stress on tranny just motor but flex plate turns freely what about generator??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, gregchrysler said: if I push down on clutch should be no stress on tranny just motor but flex plate turns freely what about generator??? If the regulator has sticking points it could be drawing down the battery. Make sure the battery is fully charged and try starting with the generator output disconnected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DuVal Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Generator and voltage regulator are in cahoots to charge the battery. True, as noted above, if either is bad, it can cause a dead battery. But, neither will keep a charged battery from starting an engine! So, is the battery charged? As noted in post by Jeff, use a voltmeter on the battery terminals while someone tries starting the engine. If the battery shows 5+ volts or better during the "click", then put the voltmeter on the battery cable terminals (not the actual lead post of the battery, use the lead part that the wire connects to) and try again. Still have 5+ volts? Move voltmeter leads to starter solenoid, test again. etc etc. Somewhere the voltage will drop to a low level, and the problem will be between the last good reading and the low reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hchris Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 I'm curious you keep mentioning flex plate turns ok, do you have trans out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregchrysler Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 tranny is in but no reverse turned flexplate after starter out turned easily battery putting out 575 cca and 5.88 volts checked at napa said battery good but I think it is the battery over 3 years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregchrysler Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 there is no relay to starter took field wire off voltage regulator and heard a little crank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john hess Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Take one starter bolt out and clean contact area of bolt head. Run a jumper wire to ground cable on block.. sounds like bad ground to me.,. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregchrysler Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 thanks john but ran ground right to bolt from bell housing to bolt to attach starter checked with ohmmeter 0.00 from ground resistance starter bolt to ground on battery I .m getting an 875 cca battery tommorow see if it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregchrysler Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 clutch was stuck to flexpate thanks every body for helping adjusted it spins freely now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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