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That is a very good deal. I too have one I built myself and it is a heck of a lot of work. The way that one is made you can raise/lower the car and center it vertically so it can be spun with one hand and locked at any angle. Nice job!

I had a chance to tour Jay Leno's shop in about '05. He had four full time guys doing the cars then and a full time lady cleaning and dusting the floors/walls/collectibles/and done cars and motorcycles. When I went through they were working on a couple of restorations I think it was, or was it three?, one of which was a 30s Duesenburg (sic?). I asked them what they painted the frames and suspension components with and you could have knocked me over with a feather when he said Rustoleum. With that said I mess with old car stuff and have parted out several cars and buy and sell early 60s Pontiac super duty stuff as part of my hobby. I have had a number of items/cars go through my hands that had components/floor undersides/frames coated with either powdercoat or POR15 or competing products. Those coatings are fine until they get a chip in them, which can happen, and when it does rust can start and then creep under the surrounding finish and it comes off in sheets. I like Rustoleum.

Go to these forums and pose your questions in the 61-63 Tempest & LeMans TECH section. There is also a section on there where you can request the parts you need. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/forums/

If you are seriously interested in a '58 Bonneville send me a PM and I will give you the name and # of a fellow who owns and has bought and sold a number of '57-'62 Bonnevilles and has a registry on them. He may be willing to sell one of his or may know where one is available for sale? but I can tell you the price will be far higher than that scammers price. One in the condition that one appeared to be in would be 100k probably?

I second Xander if you are only going to buy one get a two post. I have both and in my experience while you CAN work on one sitting on a four post they are really best for storing while the two post is best for getting under/into everything. The things I wish would have know to do was get an asymmetric rather than symmetric and get one really wide inside the posts. I have early 60s full size Pontiacs and cannot enter or exit the cars when they are between the posts ready to be lifted or lowered; I have to exit the car short and push them to the point where I locate the arms under them to lift them up. Asymmetric fixes this problem but having the posts farther apart too would be an advantage even with asymmetric. Another thing I would recommend is to be sure and get a lift that will hold your tow vehicle because you WILL want to be able to put it up too at some point. This means you will want at least an 8k lift but IMO 10k will make you feel even better due to the safety factor.

I had a friend, now deceased, who owned and operated a paint and body shop for fifty years. He made his living and kept his business operating doing insurance repair work on modern vehicles but also took in vintage car restoration work and always had two or three in his shop. His old car restoration work was not "high end" work but he did very good paint and body work. My observation is that restoration jobs took six months to two years on average. He did a '65 GTO for me (paint & body) and it took about six months with me down there helping and nagging. I have another friend who owns a sure-nuff "high end" restoration business and I think jobs he does normally take one to two years but each one may sit in a storage building he has for three or four years before it's number comes up. As others have said the owners ability to keep sending $$ can have an effect on his timing as he is definitely not cheap; he always seems to have one sitting over by the wall waiting for more $$ to arrive before they take it to the next step. IMO unless a person is young to middle aged AND the car has some special/personal significance the best route is always to just go out and buy the best you can afford. Unless the car is a really rare or significant something or other the person who pays for the initial restoration always looses their butt.

It may have been my '56 Chevy? But then it may have been Linda Beard's '59 Bonneville?

And now you should have 171 I just "liked" your post :-)

I'm kind of like you but have not had that many cars, but have had the same wife for 52 years. But I've bought quite a few neat project cars that I looked at for a year or three and then sold. I can't help myself; I see these neat things, buy them, look at them and fantasize on how neat it would be to do it this way or that, and then sell them and get another one. Been doing this for years, I have two 60s Pontiac muscle cars almost done and they, if I finish them, will likely be the only ones I ever do. It is no ones business how I do this hobby.

Or some kid just stuck the floor shift in it because he thought that was the neat thing to do, which was what I did to my '59 Biscayne back then. There wasn't anything wrong with the column shift I just wanted a floor shift.

I'm like Lebowski don't fret over it. I was unaware there was such a thing as those points until I saw your thread here. I looked and I have 4 points, wow! I've been on here since '03. have 240 or so posts, and have earned 4 points, and don't care.

Go to this site and ask your question. You have to register but it is free. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=427

No, get over it and stay honest. I'm glad you told the bonehead to go to hell and then hung up on him. Tomorrow will be a better day.

I for one do not care a hoot if the museum and AACA part ways, although I too always thought the museum was part of AACA. I live in SE Texas, have been to fall Hershey and the museum once, and really enjoyed both, but may never get back up there again. I think Steve and AACA do a great job, and really enjoy the magazine and the few AACA shows I have been to in various locales, and the magazine and those shows to me are what AACA is about. I've also been to many car museums in locations all over the country and enjoyed them all, but will probably not revisit any of them even if I go right by them. Just my opinion.

Well said edinmass!

As far as this fellow has taken this car and what he has, and what he is asking, I would buy this if I had the room and wasn't involved in trying to finish two cars already. I would like to have a 409 someday and when/if I am ready for one I sure hope a project like this one comes on the market.

That is a neat car IMO. Go find another one like that. The three on the tree car.

Vaseline Petroleum Jelly breaks down 100%. I've used it on c4s, t10s, muncies, etc. many times.

Amen; x2 on beautiful car.

The tail housing I want to trade is on a RUG E trans and according to the David Kee website this is a '67 Mustang 289 transmission. Nothing wrong with the tail housing I have I just need one for a Fairlane. If you have what I need you probably know what it looks like but I will post a picture of another toploader I have which has the Fairlane tail housing on it which mounts the shifter about half-2/3rds to the end. I also have the complete Hurst shifter for the Mustang top loader including the arms that bolt to the transmission, which I will sell separately or will trade for a Fairlane shifter if the person doing this trade wishes to do that.

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Is this a 2 dr., 4 dr, v8 automatic, 6 cylinder manual trans; what exactly? Pictures would be good too.

Send me a PM with your email address I have boxes of AFB components and specifically components out of 2507 and the other Buicks AFBs.

Big or small it doesn't matter I never know what I will find. I once found a killer deal at Spring Carlisle when a vendor didn't know what he had and the same thing at little swaps down here in Texas.

50 miles or so north of Houston on I-45. If the weather is nice this is a good swap meet as it is the first of the season down here. There is a car corral area, food vendors, free parking and free entry. It is pretty big so bring a wagon to pull if you are looking for heads or an FE intake manifold. I am not affiliated with the people who do this thing I'm just sharing information.