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58L-Y8

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  1. To compare it with the standard four door sedan, a profile view would be helpful along with a rear three-quarters view, thanks. For 1936-'37, Studebaker had a two door sedan named the St. Regis which has a long front door similar to your car. If the rear of the sedan body matches with the standard four door, then it would have required only lengthened rear doors, roof and floor extensions to complete the body unit. What are size are the tires? They look larger than what was standard for regular passenger models. Your Serial Number should be helpful to identify a commercial chassis. It would be useful for you to post this information and questions in the Studebaker section and also the Studebaker Drivers Club Forum. Mr. Richard Quinn is the pre-war research source who could answer your queries the best. He frequents both.
  2. One way to help out with website housekeeping is to grayscale any originally black and white photos you decide to post before doing so. There is an excellent, easy-to-use free shareware photo software available at irfanview.com, give it a try.
  3. The Brewster York, Derby and Speedster tourer, Newmarket, plus the Newport and Riviera town cars are the crème de la crème of their Rolls-Royce designs.
  4. Oh, Boo-hoo. I know, sorry, that's not nice....
  5. The trick for the savvy is to approach a hobby as an entertainment, forget about monetary gain altogether. Treat every use of the old car as one would any other form of entertainment or diversion. All forms of entertainment require some type of expenditure to gain access or be equipped to participate. The experiences shared and memories made are what keep a person centered and sane. Better yet, for those seeking those experiences with modest means, there are myriad less popular makes and model years of cars available to acquire at reasonable money. Half the fun of owning a rarely seen collector car is explaining to the curious what it is and who made it. Look where other have bypassed for the real value. The most popular and widely recognized collector cars will always command the higher prices but its a pretty limited selection of choices if that is one's main criteria. To paraphrase Auntie Mame: "Automotive history is a banquet of choices and those poor blighters are eating the same stale biscuit over and over".
  6. Fleetwood on that K with polished hood and cowl?
  7. Thanks AJ for the look at one of the most interesting Willys-Knights, the 66B plaid-side roadster. Medium-priced car though it was, it offered buyers style well beyond its price class. Amos Northup, you done good! We'll never forget you.
  8. Thanks for showing us these rarities. If its not too much trouble, would you give us a detailed look at each car, please? I've never seen any of these Case cars in all the years of shows and museums.
  9. There isn't an endless supply of these Franklins, someone needs to rescue this one before the weather completely ruins it.
  10. The radiator shell and hood look to be from a 1931 REO Flying Cloud Model 30, which because those also shared the 358 ci straight eight would be long enough. Perhaps an export detail.
  11. Amazing how many fellows who should be familiar enough with body design and details in that period can not recognize a badly modified coupe such as this. The telltale is always the cowl and front door upper edge that were treated completely differently than a roadster or phaeton. Only the convertible coupe and convertible sedans are like the closed cars. But roadsters and phaetons are always the most desirable and expensive so the financial motivation to create a deception for gain to foist on the unschooled is strong.
  12. So, its a landaulet town car, similar to the one gifted to the Vatican. You'll find a period photograph from the Vatican Archives on page 159 of Michael Keller's first volume mentioned above. Wonderful another example survives or is it that particular one?
  13. Thanks for the detailed analysis of this '35, obviously trying to make it into something it wasn't originally. What's to become of such cars....?
  14. As the professors used to assign us: Please enumerate the many expensive things wrong with this 1935, compare and contrast to what is correct. We stand ready to be informed what is correct and how to recognize it. Steve
  15. Lovely '37 Terraplane Utility Coupe but one detail is so incongruous I have to say something: whitewall tires! If even a single '37 Terraplane Utility Coupe ever left the dealership with whitewall tires I'd eat my hat! Those were the cars Ole and Lena bought to use on the farm and go to town once a week. Trucks and utility cars weren't dressed up, but that was then and this is now so what do I know.
  16. Flackmaster gave you solid advice, nice to know that you take it seriously. Now, will the seller be realistic? No way to know until the offer is made. If they're like 90%, they have a totally unrealistic price in mind. Check the variety of '48-'50 Super Eight convertibles currently for sale in all conditions to get an idea of the price ranges.
  17. Flackmaster knows of what he speaks, thorough assessment of the condition of the body structure regarding rust and whether the engine is stuck are major considerations. Otherwise, know that any car stored for forty-seven years is going to need every function system restored to its function to a greater or lesser degree. Appearances such as paint, chrome, interior etc. are secondary at this point. Packards have great clubs, parts and an extensive knowledge base to call upon if you should purchase this convertible.
  18. For research on any Graham-Paige, you should turn to Michael E. Keller, author of the definitive two volume Graham-Paige histories: The Graham Legacy, Graham-Paige to 1932 and The Graham Legacy, Graham-Paige from 1932. On page 151, Mr. Keller discusses their foray into the custom-bodied 837 with a dual cowl phaeton by LeBaron for the New York auto show. Catalogued were two other LeBaron-bodied models, a seven-passenger sedan-limousine and an open-front town car. Your car might also be an individual custom order as the 837 chassis was made available to custom coachbuilders in an effort to raise the luxury reputation of the top-of-the-line eight cylinder 827 and 837 models. We'll be very interested to see your custom-bodied Graham-Paige 837 as soon as you are comfortable to allow us to do so.
  19. The rear section of the roof is '55-'57 Nomad/Safari, the lower body Pininfarina '59 Eldorado Brougham. While it may simply be the rare Brougham sheet metal, rather pointless to use it for a kustom when most wouldn't recognize the difference between it and the regular production '59 Cadillac components. Years ago, I ran across two '60 Eldorado Broughams in St Catherines, Ontario, one fully restored, the other a rough, rusty parts car so a few such cars do still exist.
  20. This auction includes the rarest of the rare: a 1942 Studebaker President Eight Skyway sedan-coupe. Its the top-of-the-line '42 Sedan-Coupe, one of 605 of all President sedan-coupes built that year. Only half a dozen survive. https://www.vanderbrinkauctions.com/auction/day-2-approx-100-collector-cars-trucks-the-james-graham-collection/
  21. This auction includes the rarest of the rare: a 1942 Studebaker President Eight Skyway sedan-coupe. Its the top-of-the-line '42 Sedan-Coupe, one of 605 of all President sedan-coupes built that year. Only half a dozen survive.
  22. Cartoon Cadillac, as long as they've gone this far, might as well make it a roadster to finish it. Yes, the proportions are way off.
  23. Only the convertible coupes had front-opening doors.
  24. Its a '28 Hudson Super Six Model O Standard Sedan. The Model O was the longer wheelbase at 127 3/8 inches employed by the Custom series with the Biddle & Smart bodies. The Standard sedan was essentially the same as that on the shorter 118 1/2 inch wheelbase Model S being a four-window club sedan style but with less wheelhouse intrusion. The identifying detail that is hard to see in the movie is the light-colored patch on the lower part of the roof quarters by the door, its a small area of painted canework was would be seen on town cars for a touch of class. It was a $1,450 factory price so your family must have been doing relatively well in that period before the Depression. The Super Six was an F-Head of 288.5 ci, the size of other upscale medium-priced and entry-level luxury makes, very torquey and powerful for the times. Hudson had a graceful winged lady mascot which is what that large radiator ornament visible probably was. Interesting car, wish it survived. BTW, the New York, Ontario and Western Railroad was a 500 mile plus line that managed to avoid every major city on its way from the NYC area to Oswego plus climb ridge after ridge. It abandoned in its entirety March 31, 1957, check out its checked history when you have a chance. Steve
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