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This looks to be a top of the line 128" WB Model 58, 5 passenger Victoria coupe. Price new $1,850. 9,984 produced. Asking price seems right on the money. Nice accessories with the travel trunk wire wheels and side mounts. Below is a car that came to our Mason-Dixon show in June. The owner had purchased the car last September for $11,000. It had been an AACA Senior award car in 1973. The car was only available in Maroon. And yes the interior is very correct

There is also a rubber boot that also plugs in around this connector. Mostly crumbled away with age. It looks similar to a spark plug boot. There is still a bit left on one of my cables. I will try to get a photo of the remainder. Larry

Thanks Carl: My wife Joan makes wonderful chicken soup. It always helps me.... I have been busy. I replaced the rocker arm inlet elbow with the one from the spare master head. I had to file a hex back on to the chewed fitting. That end now fits a 9mm wrench instead of the 3/8". It still takes some finessing to get all to line up. So again, if you try to remove the fitting you must be removing the entire rocker shaft assembly at the same time. Loosening the end that goes into the head. There is a screw that holds the outlet to the shaft at the front and the tube simply pulls out of the head. Once I had this fitted I removed the assembly as I thought that I would check torque. To see if that would help stop the oil flow. I used the spec for 7/16" bolt of around 60 Ft. Lbs. The torque wrench pointer did not start to feel resistance and move until around 35 lbs. For my 1937 it is 65-70 lbs. You can also only torque all the head bolts with the rocker shaft off. You can not get to the inside bolts otherwise. I re-torqued and put all back together and hoped for the best. Started and ran for about 5 minutes and all seemed well. Once things got hot the oil was still flowing....from the rear of the head gasket. So after supper and the engine cooled down I began to remove things to get the head removed. When removing the push rods from the side galley there were no broken springs on the roller lifters. The roller had no perceptible play on the pin. So I pulled one of the lifters out to look at the cam. That one looked rough. So The Saga Continues..... Larry

Yes Gary the wheels now look semi finished. What about the striping? Or are you saving it until you change your mind and paint the car Hampton Gray? I don't give up easily.... Larry HAMPTON GRAY...... HAMPTON GRAY........ HAMPTON GRAY.....

3Gary: I agree Terry had a fabulous job done. This is the set up one the other 1913-31s had that Larry Schramm and I had looked at. The one I offered on in PA (now in England) had a 2 short sections fitted between the cast ends with sheet metal screws and was loose. Of course I never heard the car run. It was to be running and drive-able when we came to inspect it. Notice lower radiator hose disconnected. Also he said that 2nd gear was "touchy". The next owner found out why.... As the gear went out the first day he drove it. The car went to 2 owners after I looked at it in June 2015. Was sold at Hershey 2016 to England.

On our drive back to PA from the Buick nationals I found this Mobile Station in Indiana along Route 30. A shame someone broke 0ne of the Mobilgas pump globe.

The car John posted photos of was fabulous! It was also on display at the BCA 50th anniversary at Allentown. There is also a green Marquette Phaeton near me in Greencastle PA.

Steve : There is a 1916 D45 that has been in the same family since new. The current family member /owner is Larry Beatty in Iowa. I can send his contact information if you wish. He has a complete photographic record of the first generation's drive to (I believe) California. It was at the BCA national meets in Springfield MO. in 2015. The BCA 50th anniversary at Allentown PA. 2016. and at the 2017 Brookfield WI. Buick nationals in July. A wonderful time capsule!!!!

Thank you Jim. I will keep you in mind as I start exploring.

Jim: I found the photos of the survivor I mentioned. Unfortunately, nothing to show the interior. Larry

Thanks all for your input. Terry and I have discussed at length and I have also shared on the forum all the work I have done to get around the "Cobble Jobs" done by the previous owner. Our other project the 1925 Master has been our go to fun car as of late since it had run so much stronger and reliably. That is up until this morning. 1/2 mile into our 1 mile drive to church the car started to die and finally quit when I tried to restart nasty sounds were coming from the crankcase. I think it may have thrown a rod. No Buick Bliss today.....

Chuck: Thanks for your words of encouragement. I need them. I had originally hoped to get a bit more use from this car before diving this deep. Since we bought it in 2012 it has all been more fits than starts. I still wanted to get the car running a bit better and then sell it to put my efforts into the Master project. I would rather have put any rebuild money into the Master.

As I was hoping for a quick fix to the oil leak (flow) out of the back of the engine, it did not happen. The repaired fitting is not leaking. The oil is coming from up above the fitting. Next I thought how simple... the valve cover gasket. Not! Apparently the head gasket is leaking at the thru hole for the feed to the rocker shaft. It seems that something may have caused the feed pipe on the top of the head to get pushed up and kinked, causing a restriction. The oil found the path of least resistance thru the gasket. I will have to remove the rocker arm assembly to at least repair the fitting. The 2 opposite end head bolts are totally inaccessible unless one has a special wrench to torque them. That engine rebuild seems to be getting closer. Back to the drawing board. Larry

I finally got around to adding the missing wire cover on my 25-25. I copied the one on my 1925-45 as it is the same part # and it fit perfectly. I seems that each time I do something to complete the car or to improve her appearance there is a price to pay . This was the first start up since the first of July. When I ran it for about 15 minutes. Prior to that was when we fought to get her to our car show on the 1st of June. When we finally got her back in the garage from our aborted trip I shut her off, shut off the fuel and walked away in disgust. Several days later one of the fellows with the plumbing business that stores their trucks in the same building called to say coolant was running out of the car. So I went over and tightened up the packing nut on the water pump shaft and cleaned up the mess. I put in fresh coolant on July 1st and started up and ran for 15 minutes and all seemed well. Yesterday I opened the hood, turned on the fuel and checked the water pump shaft. All seemed nice and clean. Puled out the choke .. she started instantly. Revved up a little and as she settled down, closed the choke and all is running smooth. I pulled her out of the building. I adjusted the low speed screw and proceeded the 3 blocks to my home garage. Still not running right... I will adjust again when I get her home. As I pull in front of my garage smoke is rolling out of the hood and things are not sounding happy. Oil running down onto the exhaust pipe. When I lift the hood there is a line of oil flowing out from the back of the block down both sides of the engine. Shut down the engine to investigate. Total running time about 15 minutes. It looked like the oil line going into the block had split or the solder joint had failed and or the gasket. I took the next 1/2 hour to remove the floor boards to get at the oil line fitting from the Y pipe from the crankcase to the back of the block that feeds the upper section of the rocker shaft. I have to remove the oil line to the gage to get to the 1/2" fitting. The bolts holding the brass fitting seemed tight when I removed them. The gasket looked like it had been removed and re-used several times. I have never had this off. Then I cleaned the pipe/fitting assembly and did indeed find that the solder joint had failed. Before disassembly I used a small prick punch to mark the tube and fitting for alignment. I cleaned the parts with acetone, flattened the face of the fitting as it was dished a good bit, reamed out the solder from the fitting, re-soldered. I made some new gaskets as the original copper/asbestos one was shot. Today I will put things back together and hope for the best. I hope that I did not loose the rocker shaft bearings! As I have said before this car has fought me at every turn. Stay tuned.

Don: Thanks for this information and how you presented it. I was just starting to turn up a puller similar to the one I did for my 1925-25. I was going to share it with Tom D. You saved me making a lot of chips. Thank You : Larry

That model information should be stamped on the ID plate on the engine side of the cowl. ie. 27-47, 27-26, 27-40. Mine is stamped 25-25 which makes my car a 1925 Model 25 Standard 6 Touring car. Larry

Sorry to take so long but I tried to get as good a resolution as possible. Some of the page files were over 19 mb. When I resized the images the photographs showed up with a screen effect similar to a bad halftone. The larger files have the photos crisp. Here goes... Pages 2 and 24 are blank.

Due to turn 62 in September. 15 cars and 4 trucks so far. 6 Buicks 1938 md 41,1969 LeSaber Convert, 1973 Century and the 3 I have now the 1925-25, 1925-45 and the 1937-41 that got us to and from the Brookfield nationals. 1,915 miles.

Matt is correct. It is in a sealed box. I have the original installation manual with the circuit schematic, photo layout and service information. I can scan the info for you. Larry

J.H. Congratulations on your Standard Coupe. I have a model 25 touring. Our "Go To" guy has been Leif Holmberg in Sweden who also has done several model 25 touring cars. There seems to be some debate as to what the running board covering was. Ribbed rubber as Brad has noted or Linoleum. I chose linoleum based on a period photo of a 1925-55 Sport Touring. Factory or other period photos being of no help. If the car was well used out in the weather the linoleum quickly gave out. By the late 1920s the rubber mat was the new replacement material. Your enclosed car would have carpeting as our open cars have linoleum for the front floor surface. I may also have some photos of a survivor Standard Coupe.

We considered stopping on our way back from the Buick Brookfield Nationals. When we did the South Bend Nationals we toured it twice on a regular bus tour and on the Pre-War after tour. I could have goon again. It is great. Larry

Returned from the nationals on Saturday. 1,915.5 miles door to door. The 37 gave us a few bouts of vapor lock trying to cross the central PA mountains. Photo of my "dirty thirties" car at my daughters home in Indiana PA. after a day of Ohio storms. The last hot mountain climb did in the manifold gasket for #s 1, 2and 3.

Yes Dave: The penalty of doing an auction. Anything I would like goes way over my limit for "big money. Any thing I try to sell goes for "no money". Our local auction houses have all gone to the hated buyers premiums. Then the sliding scale for "outside items". My one friend bought a lot of good stuff at this particular auction for many years. When he had them sell his accumulation they put it all in outside box lots. He ended up paying them to sell. No profit at all. Could have just thrown all in a dumpster. Larry

Brian: Thank you so much for a great tour. We got back to Chambersburg Saturday evening after 5 PM. Good that we got on the road Tuesday and stayed ahead of the storms. On the way back I presented Paul Ford from Mars PA. with his gold award for his 1933 Victoria Sedan I accepted for him at the banquet. We spent 2 days with our daughter in Indiana PA. Showing what a "Dirty Thirties" car looks like after a day in Ohio rain. Total for our trip was 1,915.5 miles. The 37 was tired as we are.

Gary: Just to let you know we have made nearly 900 miles on our trip to the Buick nationals with the BD-1 Marvel Carb and Delco Choke set up. Other than a bout of vapor lock coming over the central PA mountains on last Monday all is running fine. I have averaged around 15 mpg.. Best Regards: Larry