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Thanks for posting photos Larry. I was anxious to see your find. It does look as if there is a good bit of value with what is there. Even the spark plug cover! The battery box looks to be in better shape than what is on my 1925 Master. It does appear that the tire carrier is set up for double spare attachment. The 1928 headlights do make an interesting statement. Maybe Brian wants the yellow rim for his car...... Good luck with its disposal. The other Larry

Delivered the engine to Reeve Enterprises in Cazinovia NY. About a 625 mile round trip. Left at 8 AM and returned at 9:30 PM. We are pooped. Stay tuned for further developments.

This is what the Sport model wheels look like. The red car is a 1924-55 and the sage green car is a 1925-55.

Larry: Tomorrow it will be going to Reeve Enterprises in Cazanovia NY. "Midman" is having his 1931 90 series engine done there and they come highly recommended. Travel to Hart's would be around 8 hours for me. I did not realize Cecil Ohio was nearly to Indiana. Reeve is around 4 1/2 hours straight up route 81. We can go up and back in the same day. The other Larry:

We have lift off! The engine that is. I decided to drive 15 minutes down the road an buy a 2 ton hoist from Harbor Freight. Checking locally nothing appeared on craigslist. It took Joan and I an hour to assemble last night. And when I am done with my engine jobs it can be sold. I may have to do this again with the Master and my 1937 is no spring chicken either engine wise. I did have to remove the front bumper to get enough reach. I was able to arrange the lifting straps to be able to roll the engine to clear the right side frame rail. Notice the hardwood block at the starter gear box to keep the strap from slipping which gave me enough of a few degree roll to clear the frame. Joan is in on the engine dance act. My best helper ever!! The engine was at the correct attitude for twisting toward the left front fender to be able to clear the steering box at the rear engine mount casting. It did take several adjustments. Also using a floor jack under the flywheel for added stability. I used a piece of 2X3 across the floor board recess and a ratchet strap to support the transmission. And it fit the cradle I made for it perfectly! All told it probably took us 45 minutes with having to stop and re adjust.

Thanks Mark and Larry I will check with ours. I worked up a cradle for the engine's transport to Hart's Machine shop. Today I will try to get a rental engine hoist. The tugging and twisting begin...

As Leif has noted not in the master parts book. Somewhere there has to be someone with a period Fisher body book as they did the closed body cars. Possibly same as Chevrolet. Larry

King: We visited the school over 3 years ago and spoke with the instructor about the car. He outlined all the issues you stated. It was supposed to be ready for the great race the next year. I believe that we gave him all 1932 Buick contact information we had. I think Derek's suggestion is worth pursuing. Larry

Jim: Just saying that the original1925-28 I sent the photos of has the loop handles. Larry

Here is what a very original, low mileage1927-54 sport roadster looks like.

Looks to be a 1927 Buick Master, Country Club coupe. The duct tape holding things together looks rather ominous. Hundreds of hours of wood fabrication....With what needs to be done it should be almost at a giveaway price to be considered. IMO. Larry

My Beulah is not going anywhere soon. I have been trying to systematically remove as much as possible on the engine to make it more manageable. The water pump was removed just as the shop manual outlined. It helps if the unit was kept clean and had been in use. Yesterday with my son's help we removed the S/G very easy, but awkward. We tapped apart the leaky exhaust pipe from the muffler. It will need replaced with as the pipe was a welded up fabrication and the muffler was an oval shaped, mangled, make do unit. (another cobble job) I should have gotten this apart before trying to remove the splash shield. The shield even with the exhaust pipe filler plate removed is tough to remove without bending and distorting it. I guess that is why I never installed my new one. (The S/G side splash pan was missing and I secured a set on Ebay and had them powder coated.) I will clean this up and send along if someone is in need as I have the powder coated one. I will disconnect the engine at the clutch to flywheel and make a support for the transmission across the frame. If they are going to balance the crank as a unit then the flywheel should be left on. I will also make a wooden cradle to transport the engine to the shop. I will have to rent an engine crane. I am attempting to remove the steering box since that needs new seals anyway. 3 Buicks and 3 leaking steering boxes! Anyone have suggestions or experience with these? Then the engine with the rear flywheel housing should be less of a problem in removal. Larry

Jim: The new running board cover looks fantastic! I got my linoleum from Tony also. A great guy to deal with. And that little Chevrolet truck is sure a honey! Larry

Jeff: Ken Burns did an absolutely fantastic program "Horatio's Drive" for PBS I believe in 2003. The detailed story of Horatio Nelson Jackson's 1903 drive from San Francisco to New York in a 2 cylinder, 20 HP, 1903 Winton. I have the DVD and the companion book. I re watch it every so often. Larry

Hugh: On that carb you sent me to try on my car it still had the collar and what was left of a packing. I thought I put back as I found it. Larry

John: Glad to see that you will be taking the 1928. Both of the 1925s are down at this time. I will be looking at getting major engine work done to both. Sigh........Check out my Buick Pre-War forum posts. "the 1925 Saga continues".... Larry

Roberta: I see that you are starting a dialog with the membership. I agree with Adam's comment above. I know as the Mason-Dixon Director the statement fits. We few all wear many hats within the local organization. At one time we had nearly 75 members on the roster. Presently at about 25 members. That was because of the reluctance of the former Director to remove members for non payment of dues. We had carried some for over 3 years without a payment. Still only $10. We do send out "miss you, wish you were here" type of emails to these former members and do a phone call every so often. Our former long time treasurer left after an unresolved rift with the BCA office. Luckily, a member stepped forward and is doing a fine job. But trying to get a person to step up to be assistant director is an ongoing trial. Larry

This weeks activity. I finally got the head to break free. It had a composition gasket. The photo shows where the leak was coming from. I took it to my local friend with an engine shop. He did a quick check of the combustion chambers with the valves at rest. Total vacuum drawn was 17.5 in. Consistent on all chambers. The gage goes up to 20 in. The chambers has some soft carbon (always runs rich anyway). He will do a regular valve job and clean the head. Yesterday I cleaned the tops of the pistons and block combustion chamber of carbon. Not any hard stuff very easy to remove. I "miked" the bores at about an inch below the ring ridge. The largest was +.012 over size. (3" bore.) Most .001 to .002 out of round when measuring at 90 degrees. The bottom of the cylinder bores ran a taper to about +.007 to + .0055. No nasty scores were noticed.

Rod: Thanks for the link. But I was able to access it directly from the BCA website. Under.... contact us.... then to links..... The person who inquired has a 1926-27. I invited him to join us on the forum. Larry

Good to know it is still available. Now, how does one get to it? As I have tried yahoo groups and have found dead ends.

Does any one know if the Yahoo 1927 group is still active? I had an inquiry from the BCA office from a member. I tried to search and all I get are ads from craigslist and such. Several years ago I had tried to maintain a connection to it but it would never remember my log in info so I could access and participate. This was the same with the Brass Buicks site. It would let me read the posts but not ask questions. Just seemed too much of a hassle to communicate. For me the Buick Club forums work much better. Larry

According to the directions it can be filtered and reused several times to the same effect. I have never tried to use the vinegar flushes.

Marty: I used mine full strength. Filtered it, and used it to clean my other car. Larry

John: It is the correct shell. If you look closely at that image it appears as if it is a rod with an eye bolt through the bottom. It does not look to be attached at the top, but could just be a shadow. There is a faint diamond pattern in red on the radiator core. So I do not have a clue as to what this may have been for. Holder for a winter front??

Carl: Congratulations! We will be waiting for your story to appear. To join us in the BCA just hit their web site and apply. Mark Shaw in Vancouver WA. is your contact man for the Pre-War Buicks. He is frequently on the Buick Pre-War forum. Larry