West Peterson Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinVirginia Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 Good stuff! Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 The Abernathy boys were featured on this front-page, which also features the Olds Limited. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Sinclair Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Definitely two very different classes of cars on that front page! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Woolf Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 12 hours ago, Steve Moskowitz said: Just found this among my "stuff"! The 90 hp roadster advertised has 29 inch wheels (38X4-1/2). Wouldn't that make it an Autocrat not a Limited? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinVirginia Posted May 5 Author Share Posted May 5 Most impressive vehicle I’ve ever seen. What a great day I had viewing the Limited and talking to @dpeeler Without him letting me know about this event I would’ve missed out. My first Concours event was a great impression thanks to him and his wife. …The car too! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinVirginia Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 Every angle and detail is interesting 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinVirginia Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 Earned 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stude Light Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Do I see an electric light bulb inside that brass lamp? Beautiful car but one may ask why bother to electrify a car of this quality unless it was driven on the road a lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raybelf Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 The Oldsmobile Limited had side lamps that were both Kerosene and Electric from the factory. Ray Belf 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Word now has it that we will see another Limited being shown for the first time soon at an AACA show...it is registered right now. So happy this great car is being recognized so much. Today we got a title for our 1908 Limited Prototype that was signed by Barney Pollard!! It is a treasure to have his signature and to know that at one time he owned it. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 56 minutes ago, Steve Moskowitz said: Word now has it that we will see another Limited being shown for the first time soon at an AACA show...it is registered right now. So happy this great car is being recognized so much. Today we got a title for our 1908 Limited Prototype that was signed by Barney Pollard!! It is a treasure to have his signature and to know that at one time he owned it. Wow, what a significant piece of history. I hope that will be displayed with the car. I'll never forget the first time I saw Barney's cars all hung up by the back axles. Was the Olds one of them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stude Light Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 5 hours ago, raybelf said: The Oldsmobile Limited had side lamps that were both Kerosene and Electric from the factory. Ray Belf Really! Learned something new today. Thanks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Ray and his family probably have more seat time in a Limited than anyone else on the planet! Their Limited has been on countless tours over the years so yes he is correct about the combination lights. Terry, we know that Barney had several Olds including another 1908 Touring and a Curved Dash (I bought it from his daughter). When I first heard about our car it was apart in Texas. Not sure what the condition was when it was sold to Glenn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 15 hours ago, Steve Moskowitz said: Today we got a title for our 1908 Limited Prototype that was signed by Barney Pollard!! It is a treasure to have his signature and to know that at one time he owned it. What is interesting about this car is there is no fixed glass windshield, or 'A'-pillars to support the front section of the top. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Woolf Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 On 5/5/2024 at 8:03 PM, BobinVirginia said: Earned It is nice to see a brass era car getting top honors at a Concours. I had the opportunity to see the car at Charlotte. To see the car in person really underscores the level of detail and outstanding workmanship that produced this restoration. Congratulations to David for a well-deserved Best of Show win! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinVirginia Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 (edited) @kfle Shared some fantastic pics of four Limited cars. Could anyone elaborate on anything known about them? I had no idea there was a full roadster bodied car. Stunning in black with the brass! Edited July 22 by BobinVirginia (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinVirginia Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 I’m guessing the Black car is a roadster? Was the prototype considered a runabout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Prototype is a touring car... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinVirginia Posted July 24 Author Share Posted July 24 I’m really a fan of the Limited cars. Really cool stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpeeler Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Here's a photo of the 1908 Limited prototype in the AACA Headquarters lobby. A beautiful restoration of a significant car - worth going by and seeing it in person when in Hershey! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinVirginia Posted July 24 Author Share Posted July 24 @dpeeler I really need to do that! I’m really a greenhorn with big brass cars. Now that I’ve discovered the big cubic inch tall tire cars, I’m hooked!! I’ve always liked the 59-64 era super stock big cubic inch full size cars. Now I realize this very interesting concept happened in the brass era. They’re very interesting cars. There’s so much automotive history that folks my age don’t know about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Goist Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 It is true, this years Celebration of Brass IV saw 4 Oldsmobile Limiteds in attendance! We also had three Brass Era Simplexes! I am the President of the Museum of the Horseless Carriage who hosted, we are very happy with how our event came together this year. 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Matt G, Oh boy, ya done good! I sure wish I could have been closer and able to attend. Just looking at the photos it looks to rival some of the best I have ever seen! And years ago, I saw a lot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Matt, I agree "you done good"...been busy but the project we were working on is still viable. Sometime in September I will make a visit. I will have to post a picture we took in front to Meadowbrook Hall with about a half dozen or more Limiteds . I'll try to do that this week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHa Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 These cars have a tendency to go into private museums so to see four of them at a show is amazing. I had no idea four of the cars existed and now it is suggested there are more? It would be really neat if some history of the existing cars could be shared. I understand the history of the ones Barney Pollard had is probably not available. How is it known the 1908 is a prototype? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 So here is another grouping of Limiteds at the old Meadowbrook Concours. From left to right: Eby race car, Belf car, Nethercutt limousine, ??brain cramp, National Automobile Museum, Oldsmobile Division Barney is believed to have owned at the very least the 1911 Oldsmobile that Olds Division owned and also the 1908 prototype. We are very fortunate that the title bearing his name for the 1908 is now in our possession. The 1908 was in a collection in Texas at one time and included a manufacturers license plate from NJ where Olds Motor Works did their testing. The license plate jives with other ads and material from Olds history and of course it has a unique serial number. Yes there are even more Limiteds out there not included in the two composites on this thread. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill witmer Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 What a line up! Very impressive to say the least. Thank you for posting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kblake Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Matt failed to mention that the Blue Oldsmobile Limited Roadster is on loan to the Museum of the Horseless Carriage and can be seen in our space at the Steam Barn at the Gilmore Car Museum until next July! So plan your road trip now! It was quite a treat to have these four Limiteds together at the MHC's Celebration of Brass! Keep in mind next year's Celebration will be held July 17th-19th with the HCCA National Tour July 15th-17th. Celebration of Brass V's feature vehicles are Steam Vehicles and we are expecting 25-30 steam vehicles to be on display along with the 100+ other pre-1916 vehicles. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kblake Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Just now, Kblake said: Matt failed to mention that the Blue Oldsmobile Limited Roadster is on loan to the Museum of the Horseless Carriage and can be seen in our space at the Steam Barn at the Gilmore Car Museum until next July! So plan your road trip now! It was quite a treat to have these four Limiteds together at the MHC's Celebration of Brass! Keep in mind next year's Celebration will be held July 17th-19th with the HCCA National Tour July 15th-17th. Celebration of Brass V's feature vehicles are Steam Vehicles and we are expecting 25-30 steam vehicles to be on display along with the 100+ other pre-1916 vehicles. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpeeler Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 11 hours ago, Steve Moskowitz said: So here is another grouping of Limiteds at the old Meadowbrook Concours. From left to right: Eby race car, Belf car, Nethercutt limousine, ??brain cramp, National Automobile Museum, Oldsmobile Division Barney is believed to have owned at the very least the 1911 Oldsmobile that Olds Division owned and also the 1908 prototype. We are very fortunate that the title bearing his name for the 1908 is now in our possession. The 1908 was in a collection in Texas at one time and included a manufacturers license plate from NJ where Olds Motor Works did their testing. The license plate jives with other ads and material from Olds history and of course it has a unique serial number. Yes there are even more Limiteds out there not included in the two composites on this thread. Steve - I believe the touring car you weren't sure of belongs to Stan Lucas. What an elegant setting for the six! What was the date of the photo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 David, I think you are right, I suggested that to Tim but he did not think so but something rings a bell in that regard. That was circa 1997. Could be a year before or after but definitely that era as they celebrated Olds 100th Anniversary. Meadowbrook was a great venue except when they asked me to drive the GM Limited and I had to navigate the crowds for the style show. It was a work out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Apparently, only the Belfs know how to clean tires on a Limited. Oh... and I believe the AACA car has clean tires, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpeeler Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Here's an undated photo of the Lucas car (an early 1911 Touring) at Pebble. I believe that Stan became the lucky new owner in August, 2000 (Christie's auction) so not sure who might have owned it when the Meadowbrook photo was taken. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpeeler Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 37 minutes ago, West Peterson said: Apparently, only the Belfs know how to clean tires on a Limited. Oh... and I believe the AACA car has clean tires, too. West - We're told the "white powder" is a mold release compound used in the manufacturing process and seems to be a common problem with the last run of tires from Universal. You can clean it and it looks great for a short while then reappears... no magic solution yet! The Belf car, AACA car and a few others are lucky to have the previous Firestone tires that not only look so much better but don't get that dirty look. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 As long as Mr. Peterson is opining on tires. I'll share this tidbit. The tires on the white 1911 Olds Limited owned by GM are now at least 74 years old!!! When I worked for Olds in the early 1970's I had an occasion to go to the Exhibit & Display building. It is where they did the displays for auto shows, etc. but also where the small collection of Division antique cars were unceremoniously stored. There was a pile of wood there and I noticed some tires in wrapping peaking out so I checked one and it had shipping label from Joe Loecy in Ohio in 1950! In the early 1990's we went to inspect this car which they called a 1910 after it was heavily damaged at a theme park. Story for another day! We got filthy but lo and behold those same tires had never left the spot I found them many years ago. They were useable and of course being the Firestones added to the car. Yep, there is some checking on the tires but they have held up remarkably since the restoration was finished in 1996. Oh and David, do not take offense to West's comments...he has his own unique sense of humor! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 35 minutes ago, dpeeler said: West - We're told the "white powder" is a mold release compound used in the manufacturing process and seems to be a common problem with the last run of tires from Universal. You can clean it and it looks great for a short while then reappears... no magic solution yet! The Belf car, AACA car and a few others are lucky to have the previous Firestone tires that not only look so much better but don't get that dirty look. I understand, and I apologize if I offended. I just put a set of new tires on my Avalanche and they had the same problem (also Firestone). Here's what I've found to make them look really good. Leaves a really nice sheen, and it doesn't wash off. Don't get it on paint. It'll come off, but it's a lot of extra work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpeeler Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 (edited) West - No offense taken nor apologies needed! The problem is apparently more common than I would have thought and the only suggestion we've had made up til now is to clean the tires with kerosene! I like you're approach better - will let you know how it works! Thanks Edited July 31 by dpeeler (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 For a cars that have wide-open front ends, such as brass cars and early Classics, I highly suggest doing this to both front and back sides of the tires. Now... back to our regular scheduled Olds Limited programming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinVirginia Posted July 31 Author Share Posted July 31 Great stuff! Thank you all for the discussion! Unbelievable cars! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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