Fossil Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Another transmission description that baffles the heck out of me. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1105502276758856/?hoisted=false&ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A308027b8-a151-4841-9109-d417e4132346 Driven 47,125 miles Manual transmission Exterior color: Green · Interior color: Green Fuel type: Gasoline Very good condition Clean title This vehicle has no significant damage or problems. Seller's Description 1957 DESOTO FIRESWEEP SPORTSMAN 2 DOOR HARDTOP (NOT A DODGE CHARGER) VERY VERY RARE ORIGINAL SINGLE COLOR PAINT AND STAINLESS SIDE TRIM COMBO ON THIS SPORTSMAN FIRESWEEP! NO 2 TONE PAINT SCHEME ON THIS SCARCE AND EXTRAORDINARY SEXY RIDE! THIS TAMARACK GREEN AND STAINLESS TRIM LOOK EXTREMELY HOT COMPARABLY. THIS HUGE TAIL FINNED SMOOTH CRUISER RUNS GREAT AND RIDES LIKE A DREAM. THIS FIRESWEEP SPORTSMAN ONLY HAS 47,125 MILES ON IT & WAS BUILT IN DETROIT. IT SPENT MOST OF IT’S LIFE IN CALIFORNIA. IT’S ALWAYS BEEN GARAGE KEPT. IT COMES EQUIPPED WITH A 325 C.I. MOTOR WITH HYDRAULIC LIFTERS, 2 BARREL CARB AND 245 HP. IT HAS A 3 ON THE TREE SHIFTER AND TRANNY AND PUSH BUTTON TRANNY DELETE ON THE DASH. IT’S GOT A 3.921 REAR AXLE. IT HAS TORSIONAIRE SUSPENSION AND A GREAT RIDE. IT HAS NO POWER BRAKES OR STEERING BUT THEY WORK GREAT. THE TIRES ARE GOOD. THE ORIGINAL EXHAUST CAME OUT THE PORT HOLES IN THE BUMPER. IT NOW COMES OUT THE REAR CORNERS UNDERNEATH & SOUNDS GREAT. THE FLOOR PANS & TRUNK PANS ARE EXCELLENT! THE BUMPERS, TRIM AND BODY LOOK GREAT. THE PAINT IS GETTING THIN BUT IS STILL PRESENTABLE. NO RUST ON THIS BODY! IT HAS SPECIAL ORDER HUB CAPS. THE REAR SEAT NEAR THE TOP HAS A SEAM STARTING TO COME APART BUT THE REST OF THE INTERIOR IS BEAUTIFUL! IT HAS THE SPECIAL HARDTOP TRIMMED HEADLINER WHICH IS IN GREAT SHAPE. ALL THE LIGHTS WORK. THE WINDOWS ALL WORK WELL. THE FLUID FILLED SPEEDOMETER DOESN’T CURRENTLY WORK GREAT. THE ODOMETER DOES WORK WELL. THE GAS TANK HAS BEEN UNPROFESSIONALLY REPAIRED WHERE THE FILLER NECK GOES INTO THE TANK. IT NEEDS REPAIRED OR REPLACED. THE UNDERSIDE OF THIS VEHICLE LOOKS GREAT! I’M SELLING THIS VERY RARE & NOSTALGIC BIG WINGED DESOTO FIRESWEEP SPORTSMAN FOR A GOOD FRIEND. IF YOU’D LIKE TO SPEAK WITH HIM PERSONALLY BEFORE PURCHASING I’LL GIVE YOU HIS CELL NUMBER. THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO BE CRUISING IN A SUPER COOL BIG WINGED RIDE THAT WILL GET THUMBS UP EVERYWHERE YOU GO. IT IS PURE FUN & ENJOYMENT! BUYER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR TRANSPORT. ONLY WIRE TRANSFER OR CASH ARE ACCEPTED AS PAYMENT. THE CAR IS IN WEST BRANCH, IOWA NEXT TO I-80. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Strong price but I like this car. I wish I had it back in HS instead of my 49 Special Deluxe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, Fossil said: Another transmission description that baffles the heck out of me. It's just a normal 3 on the tree. The mention of the pushbutton delete is because manual transmissions in Chrysler products of this era are like rocking horse poo. A car converted to manual after the fact would be missing the delete plate for sure. You would never, ever find one. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 The guy that wrote the ad gets an A+ in the use of embellishment. It’s a nice car and very unusual to have a manual trans. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearheadengineer Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Might need a pinion seal. 😀 Nice car. Unusual. Probably not a ton of interest in a column shift car these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthcranbrook Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Car is nice. He will be lucky to get half the asking price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillOutThere Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 The Firesweep is built on the Dodge chassis, not the Desoto (Chrysler) chassis. It has a Dodge drivetrain, suspension bits and brakes. It was still somewhat common for Dodge cars in '57 to have a manual 3 speed on the column. If, as in this case, you stepped up a couple hundred dollars into the DeSoto, the TorqueFlite automatic trans was not standard equipment. It could simply be a case of a sales manager or salesman forgetting to tick the box for the automatic. '57 DeSotos are broadly considered to be the best overall styling ever penned by Virgil Exner. The last time this same car was on the market approx 4-5 years ago it seemed like the car took about two years to sell until the price dropped.. We may watch that happen again considering the current asking price. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5219 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) Looks like it also has a radio delete and a rubber mat in front instead of carpeting. I'll bet that it started life with blackwall tires. The guy did go for a heater, at least, so he wasn't a total curmudgeon. I don't know why, but I am always attracted to bare bones versions of fancier cars. I like it. Edited December 18, 2022 by 5219 skipped a word (see edit history) 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 A total beauty, except I always find the transitional headlight situation confusing to the eye. I could live with that, though, easily. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingrudy Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Is a 3.92 rear end common for this car? Seems like it would go quickly from stop light to stop light with 245 HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillOutThere Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 3 hours ago, kingrudy said: Is a 3.92 rear end common for this car? Seems like it would go quickly from stop light to stop light with 245 HP. By '57 the US auto industry is still hanging on to the early '50s (and prior) when it was quite universally standard that an overdrive car came with a 4.56 rear gear and a straight stick came with a 4.11. For Chrysler cars in '57 there were eleven ring and pinion set choices available. '57 is the first year of Chrysler's new 8.75" tough rear axle assembly. The drop-out diffs will interchange up through '65 I believe. This being a Firesweep, having '57 Dodge front fenders, there was no availability in this year for Plymouth, Dodge or this Firesweep to have quad headlamps. Only the "full size" DeSotos, Chryslers and Imperials eventually all came with quads in the model year. And I too like them. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, kingrudy said: Seems like it would go quickly from stop light to stop light with 245 HP. Your right. I installed a 3.91 posi in my Barracuda and getting from one light to the next happened very quickly. Don't want to talk about fuel mileage though. 🥵 This car being larger and heavier I can't believe it was getting good mileage either. Edited December 19, 2022 by Fossil (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Jake Moran Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 The seller is a well known dealer in these parts. His cars sit at the top of a hill overlooking I80. Trust me, it’s way over priced. But if I remember, he is a nice guy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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