Gary_Ash Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 HUM3D, a supplier of very detailed CAD files of cars and other things, has just released files for a 1931 Duesenberg Model J Willoughby limousine. The cost for a complete set of files is $95, includes several formats. Of course, you can't drive it or park it in your garage, but you can see it from any angle on your computer screen. The files should be accurate enough to build your own Duesenberg, should you so choose. They also have other Duesenberg models. You do need a good CAD program to view the files. I'm sure someone here will tell us who this particular car belongs to. Ed...? https://hum3d.com/3d-models/vehicles/duesenberg/ I had HUM3D create a CAD model of my 1932 Studebaker Indy car replica as I was constructing it. They even included all the rivet heads in the model. If you have enough photos of your car from various angles, maybe 100 or more shots, and supply basic dimensions, they can create a CAD model for you - at a price. Here is the red Model J. If you don't like red, you can change the colors in a CAD program. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I recently completed a story on the history of the Willoughby Company and had access to some of their factory files. They never ever painted a car that color. Yet another part of automotive heritage with inappropriate "bling" added to sell the product added . If this car were real it would be at one of the major concours here in the USA in a extra special class titled OTTB ( Over The Top Blingness) . 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 How many golf clubs can one stuff in that thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 It's maximally close to the original dimensions. "Maximally close", literally, what could be better? I'm going to use that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 No disrespect meant, but I dont understand the concept. Is it so one can have a picture of a car on their computer? Cannot one be found of a real car you could look at? I took a couple of really good pictures of a model A roadster at a show a few years ago that I use as a screen saver that did not cost a penny. The Duesenburg above looks a bit clunky. I am not a computer person and learned drafting with a board, t square and pencil. Still do it that way, I suppose if I stepped into the 21st century I would get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 When creating an image of a well-known subject, even minor variations are glaringly obvious. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 The car in the original post looks as though it's trying to emulate J-350, right down to the recently added grille guard. My father owned that car before it attained the ridiculous color scheme. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Oh joy. Virtual scale plastic models. Actually, there is a lot of real potential here for being able to study cars or concepts. But only if the people creating the programs do the job right, and make it accurately. Otherwise, it is just another fantasy plastic model. Sorry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 All being said and done, my thanks to Gary for letting us know that this is even being done. I didn't know it and this is the first I have seen/read about it. I am very basic in my computer knowledge - have learned enough to be able to submit clear high dpi scans to publishers/editors of period material and how to crop the same if needed . Yes, I am a bit of a dinosaur . I still like to hold a print publication and view a page then have to look at a screen . One foot in the first half of the 20th century and the other slipping and sliding around in the second half. I prefer things made from wood, brass, bronze, steel and type writers - like their keyboards better and they make a neat clackaty clack noise too. I do appreciate modern technology , am thankful for it too . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Harper Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Thanks Gary, 3D models such as these do have an important use. I have used quite a few 3D vehicles for architectural renderings in REVIT and also Infraworks. Here is an example I put together a few years ago. This was produced in REVIT for a presentation. The sleds, log hauler and wagon are 3D models imported to populate the scene. I still prefer the relaxing work of hand renderings but I do love the flexibility and value added aspects of the 3D renderings. And just for fun the completed structure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 We discussed 3-D modelling real automotive parts for practical use here: Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Ash Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 It looks like West identified the car used for modeling as J-350, formerly owned by his father in a different color scheme. HUM3D did a better job on my Indy car project. Here is a photo and a CAD rendering for comparison. Accuracy depends highly on the quality of the inputs, and I supplied hundreds of photos and many CAD files of parts I had drawn in my CAD program. And, yes, there are a few details different. A particular use of the CAD models is to recreate damaged or missing parts from cars, or as in my case, an entire car. Sections can be taken from the 3D models to make body bucks. There are also 3D scanning services that can scan an entire car with sub-millimeter accuracy and provide a CAD file. I've been scanned and 3D printed, and it didn't hurt a bit! CAD rendering of 1932 Studebaker Indy car from HUM3D files. The car finished. A 3D print of me and my wife. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 You can scan an early 30’s CCCA classic for less than 1700 dollars. It’s accurate less than a single millimeter. Scan two identical coach built cars………and they are much closer to each other than you would think………we actually did it earlier this year. It was a fun exercise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Ash Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 Build, in the context of this forum, means (to me) putting together a car that represents the period, not a street rod or rat rod. The chassis, engine, basic mechanical parts should be consistent. The body? An original if available, or make as much of it as needed. There are many show cars that were reconstructed from very few original parts, e.g. a chassis and an engine block. The danger, of course, is that someone claims it is a fully original car. But, it's OK to enjoy what you have. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 On 11/8/2022 at 1:08 PM, Walt G said: I recently completed a story on the history of the Willoughby Company and had access to some of their factory files. They never ever painted a car that color. Walt's testimony above shows how important it is to preserve historical records, and research them thoroughly. West's account of his father's ownership further helps to define history. Thank you, both. On 11/8/2022 at 4:16 PM, West Peterson said: ...My father owned that car before it attained the ridiculous color scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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