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1926 ROLLS ROYCE SILVER GHOST SPORT SEDAN (LYONS , IL)

1926 ROLLS ROYCE SILVER GHOST SPORT SEDAN - cars & trucks - by owner... (craigslist.org)
UP FOR SALE FROM A PRIVATE COLLECTOR THIS RARE AND VERY IMPORTANT ROLLS ROYCE , ONE OF ONLY FOUR EVER MADE BY BREWSTER COACH BUILDER ( CALLED THE SPECIAL NEWMARKET PERMANENT SPORT SEDAN ). FOR MORE INFORMATION ,YOU CAN REACH ME AT (number below).   ONLY SERIOUS BUYERS PLEASE . THANKS

Contact:  JIM  call:  (708) two-8-8-two-five-8-8

Copy and paste in your email: 5b7eaf39105f34a19e5223a69ac78db6@sale.craigslist.org

 

This can't be for real????

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That is the best looking 4 dr i think Ive seen, ever. Hell, I didnt realize it was a 4 dr until I saw the interior shots. So its a RR but not a 26? Different year or what?

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So is this likely a bogus ad, then? Certainly the legit owner of a car like this would know what it is. The implications of this are not very clear. Very pretty car.

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5 hours ago, deaddds said:

That is the best looking 4 dr i think Ive seen, ever. Hell, I didnt realize it was a 4 dr until I saw the interior shots. So its a RR but not a 26? Different year or what?


It’s a 1933 PII, Body by Brewster. The hood extends from the radiator to the windshield frame........thr longest hood of any car I have ever felt with. It’s has perfect proportions. 
 

After looking over the photos for a second time, it’s a 1933 PII body on a Ghost chassis. It’s probably done in the era. I’m a big Ghost fan, but having that body on the earlier chassis will drastically affect price. Still a fantastic and beautiful car. I have worked on one of the three on the PII chassis.

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I remember the one that rm sold 10 years ago or so.   auctioneer asked where do we want to start it?
 

one bidder yelled out a high bid within the estimate and everyone else sat down.  Only time I have seen that. 

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2 hours ago, edinmass said:

It’s a 1933 PII, Body by Brewster....having that body on the earlier chassis will drastically affect price. 

 

So, it must be a 1933 body on a 1926 chassis?

I know that Rolls-Royce owners often updated

their cars by having them rebodied by Rolls.

 

Were Rollses in this era as unnecessarily complex

as the later ones?  I hope not.  Admirable engineering

builds things to last, but keeps the engineering

foundationally simple.

 

It does have nice lines.

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It is a 26 Silver Ghost that was rebodied in period by Brewster with a  Special Newmarket body typically found on the PII.    Ed and I were debating the numbers this morning,  and I can't find the list right now but I'm going to say there was single Special Newmarket placed on the Silver Ghost chassis,  this car,   another placed on the Phantom I (car is in Texas)  and then 3 or 4 placed on the Phantom II chassis.

 

This is a GREAT car but I have no idea why the owner marketed it for years on a dealer website in England and then decided to put it on Craig's List.    If we are devaluing the car,  why not just throw it on eBay?


The last Phantom II Newmarket sold for 1.2 million,   I would expect this one to be worth somewhere under 1/2 of the PII.

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Why do Rolls-Royce coachbuilders in particular always insist on making the trunk lids open backwards and awkwardly? It looks like a rumble seat. Would it really have hurt anything functionally or aesthetically to have it hinged at the top?

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1 minute ago, Matt Harwood said:

Why do Rolls-Royce coachbuilders in particular always insist on making the trunk lids open backwards and awkwardly? It looks like a rumble seat. Would it really have hurt anything functionally or aesthetically to have it hinged at the top?

 

The tool kit goes in the lid which wouldn't work if it was hinged the other way.

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Ok...disclosure. I know for a fact the tool kit will not fit in the back trunk of one of these cars. I have extensive experience with one of the PII cars with this body on it.  The tool kit is HUGE and probably weighs in at forty pounds. The kit goes in a very large box under the rear seat. You remove the lower cushion and the entire seat lower frame flips up for access to the tool kit. 

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24 minutes ago, alsancle said:

 

The tool kit goes in the lid which wouldn't work if it was hinged the other way.

 

Nope........see above.....an unfair advantage!

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Just now, edinmass said:

Ok...disclosure. I know for a fact the tool kit will not fit in the back trunk of one of these cars. I have extensive experience with one of the PII cars with this body on it.  The tool kit is HUGE and probably weighs in at forty pounds. The kit goes in a very large box under the rear seat. You remove the lower cushion and the entire seat lower frame flips up for access to the tool kit. 

 

Since I can't find a picture of one in the trunk lid I'll retract my last statement.      A prewar Rolls Royce probably carries the most extensive tool kit of any prewar car.   Part of why they were 20k bucks and a Duesenberg was 12-14.

 

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1 hour ago, John_S_in_Penna said:

 

 

Were Rollses in this era as unnecessarily complex

as the later ones?  I hope not.  Admirable engineering

builds things to last, but keeps the engineering

foundationally simple.

 

It does have nice lines.

 

 

Nice Lines? John.......this is one the most beautiful four door cars ever designed...............and they have been mostly been in the great collections of the world. It's impolite to name where these cars have been , but trust me......they reside in collections similar to the Nethercutt Collection. Not just a good liking car......it's a masterpiece.

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2 hours ago, John_S_in_Penna said:

 

So, it must be a 1933 body on a 1926 chassis?

I know that Rolls-Royce owners often updated

their cars by having them rebodied by Rolls.

 

Were Rollses in this era as unnecessarily complex

as the later ones?  I hope not.  Admirable engineering

builds things to last, but keeps the engineering

foundationally simple.

 

It does have nice lines.

 

 

10 years ago Ed would lecture me about cars to avoid and always mentioned prewar Rolls.   Then he got his hands on a few cars and changed his tune.

 

On the plus side:

 

1.   Very strong club support.

2.  Almost all parts are available.

3.  Build quality is through the roof.

 

On the negative side:

 

1.   Complex systems

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The Silver Ghost listing in Rolls-Royce in America by John Webb di Campi, Copyright 1975, page 226: 

Chassis Number: S374RL

Body Style: Stratford convertible coupe

Builder & Number: B2839

First Owner: G.L. Waggoner

City: Fort Worth, Texas

Delivery Date: 5/14/27

Second Body & Comments: "Spec 4p conv sdn B7403 (1935); B2839 scrapped; 3rd body: limo."

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It's a very late, LHD Silver Ghost chassis (which has a 3-speed transmission and center shift) with a much later body - all of which is believable in period although if the body was changed during the working life of the car there will be a record of it...as we can see from the above, this chassis has had several bodies since new.

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1 hour ago, edinmass said:

 

Nice Lines? John.......this is one the most beautiful four door cars ever designed...............and they have been mostly been in the great collections of the world. It's impolite to name where these cars have been , but trust me......they reside in collections similar to the Nethercutt Collection. Not just a good liking car......it's a masterpiece.

Absolute!  Quoting one of the great lines from the M.A.S.H. television show, to say this Rolls-Royce Brewster has "Nice Lines" is like saying "Ava Gardner had nice features"!

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2 hours ago, alsancle said:

 

 

10 years ago Ed would lecture me about cars to avoid and always mentioned prewar Rolls.   Then he got his hands on a few cars and changed his tune.

 

 

 

 

To be fair.......I said you don't want one because you can't find a good one. And if you do, you can't afford it. I also said the only good ones I knew of back then were owned by George H. 

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On 2/5/2021 at 9:41 AM, Matt Harwood said:

It's a Rolls-Royce. Aren't tools supposed to be superfluous?

Ask to see a complete tool kit for a Ghost or RRPI - it's a LOT of tools.  

Good news though as most of cars have low mileage as they were mind blowing for most to work on. 

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On 2/5/2021 at 9:36 AM, Matt Harwood said:

Why do Rolls-Royce coachbuilders in particular always insist on making the trunk lids open backwards and awkwardly? It looks like a rumble seat. Would it really have hurt anything functionally or aesthetically to have it hinged at the top?

 

Remember I said it had to be hinged down for the tools so because they were heavy?  I'm still looking for that example,  but here is one that shows the opposite of what I'm saying.

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