calcoupe Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Model A Ford is required to verify that there is no asbestos in brakes and clutch to ship to Australia. How can this be done without dismantling ? Any advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFranklin Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 sign an affidavit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1939_Buick Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, calcoupe said: Model A Ford is required to verify that there is no asbestos in brakes and clutch to ship to Australia. How can this be done without dismantling ? Any advice? This is know major issue when importing cars into Australia. Google "notice No. 2017/21 " Australian Border force will check and have been know to have cars "disassembled" to prove one way or other if suspicious Your buyer (or you) need to be in contact with a company/person/shipper who experience with importing old cars into Australia Sample from Google (links may/may not work) https%3A%2F%2Fkeysfreight.com.au%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F09%2FACN-201721.pdf Read this (a few years old now) --> https://ferraris-online.com/australia-asbestos-and-collector-cars/ -->https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/news/1802/usa-import-solution Other https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/news/1705/dock-drama-for-importers http://www.bosskraft.com/asbestos-testing.html https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2017/08/04/crackdown-on-asbestos-essentially-halts-collector-car-exports-to-australia https://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/motorclassica-robbed-of-star-cars-65424 https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/news/1803/global-maserati-gathering-soured-by-border-force? Edited January 10, 2021 by 1939_Buick (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesR Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 About 15 or more years ago I hired an asbestos abatement consultant to examine a material sample that I provided him from one of my old cars. At that time I was just learning which materials to be wary of and which were likely to be OK. The consultant worked out of his house, and - as I recall - charged me like 40 bucks to put the sample (which turned out to be negative for asbestos) under a microscope and test it. I would imagine there's something similar to this person in your area, though I should say that the guy I hired told me that he'd never done such a small job before. His specialty, of course, was testing remodel construction sites, and such. But I would guess that a document from someone like that would be sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MochetVelo Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 U.S. Customs can inspect or disassemble anything they find suspicious... for good reasons or no reason. I assume other countries are similar. Your best bet is to use a Customs Broker who can tell you what papers are necessary. Otherwise, get all the requirements from the Customs agency in your country. The correct papers will greatly reduce the hassles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1939_Buick Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Australia is extremely hard on asbestos in imported cars. They will know a Model A probably had asbestos when new or over the ~90 years 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borough Essex Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 10:04 AM, 1939_Buick said: Australia is extremely hard on asbestos in imported cars. They will know a Model A probably had asbestos when new or over the ~90 years You can assume quarantine will check the brake shoes. I know a bloke who imported his own car from South Africa and, evidently, the car (1940s Hudson) had had asbestos sprayed under it as a deadener. They quoted some ridiculous amount to remove it, so he cut the floor out and gave it to them and took his now clean car home. I had a parts car with an OK floor which we cut out and put in his. True story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Luddy Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I know a gentleman who imported a late 40's Buick in Australia. They tore it down completely, found asbestos in the brakes, clutch and head gasket. Made a total mess of the car and then had it sent back to Canada. He was fined as well. He also had a 1968 Buick Electra 225 convertible slated to be shipped also. He put it up for sale here in Canada instead of having the same problem again. My friend in Sweden bought it and sent it to Europe with no such problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcoupe Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 Thanks very much for your comments. We will be making sure that all precaution is done. Best Regards Calcoupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hidden_hunter Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Didn't have any problems importing my Cadillac from the US, but that said culturally asbestos is a pretty big deal here (it was heavily mined and there were a number of high profile court cases) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcoupe Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 Thanks Hidden Hunter I was wondering why Australia was so much sensitive to asbestos. Certainly a serious health issue. Calcoupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hidden_hunter Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 8 hours ago, calcoupe said: I was wondering why Australia was so much sensitive to asbestos. Certainly a serious health issue. There is a town that has literally been removed from maps in WA due to asbestos contamination and James Hardie who were total scumbags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFranklin Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 8 hours ago, hidden_hunter said: There is a town that has literally been removed from maps in WA due to asbestos contamination and James Hardie who were total scumbags Expand please, I couldn't find info online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hidden_hunter Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 38 minutes ago, JFranklin said: Expand please, I couldn't find info online. This is the town https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wittenoom,_Western_Australia this gives a bit of an overview https://www.australianasbestosnetwork.org.au/asbestos-history/battles-2/battling-james-hardie/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass is Best Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) Install a new Clutch and Brakes. Then sign off on it. Or remove the clutch and brake shoes and ship that way. Be sure to charge the buyer for your effort. Edited March 18, 2021 by Brass is Best (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Buyer's problem, not yours. If he wants the car, he can figure out a solution. No way would I sign an affidavit guaranteeing no asbestos in an old car and I would not do any extraordinary repairs or parts replacement unless he was paying for parts and labor--and I still wouldn't guarantee no asbestos. Buyer wants the car, buyer can solve the problem. Or you can just sell it to someone who isn't in Australia. This isn't your problem to solve, much as the buyer would like it to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hidden_hunter Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I’m not entirely sure why you would import a model A in the first place, there are plenty of local cars as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneybeauchamp Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 The importation of cars down under is a big issue for enthusiasts. From what I have gleaned. Apparently the issue came about due to asbestos being found in a product (possibly Chineseum) that was supposed to be asbestos free. The Australia Border Protection Forces then decided to look at all imported products including classic cars. There was a article or video showing an original desirable early Mustang that was almost torn apart in the quest to search and destroy. Guys in white suits with breathing apparatus in a sealed environment ripping into upholstery, engine, transmission on an original low mileage classic that had never been apart 😢😢😢😢😢 Currently the buyer has to ensure all asbestos is removed, which can be brake and clutch linings, gaskets, undercoating and the list goes on. Understand that there are companies set up in the US to do just that so vehicles can be imported. So what arrives is a car that needs immediate repairs to make it roadworthy. As stated the buyer can face significant fines and penalties if it is deemed they imported a vehicle that still contains asbestos. It literally stopped me from pursuing another Buick import this year and choose to buy a local car that was imported years ago. I understand it can still be done today, but not as straightforward and adds a significant cost. When importing items from overseas we have always had to sign a customs declaration about the items not containing asbestos. However, the current climate makes for a difficult road for the future imports. I understand some states have got their act together and have a proper process, whereas am told my state is still sorting it out. Interesting times we live in here just my two bobs worth. Rodney 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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