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nzcarnerd Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 On 7/2/2022 at 2:01 AM, 58L-Y8 said: Ed: Any identification of the European coachbuilder? Very Teutonic in design ethic. Does the coachbuilder plate give any clue? Definitely a 1934 Nash Ambassador Eight Series 1290, either a 133" or 142" wheelbase. Steve I had hoped some thing about this car might turn up on this website. So far drawn a blank. I might have to trawl through the various Euro coachbuilders - there were lots of them - to find that badge. COACHBUILD.COM - Search 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) Edited July 3, 2022 by edinmass (see edit history) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hanski Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 9 hours ago, edinmass said: Walter Royal V12 (body by Th. Petera). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanski Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 9 hours ago, edinmass said: Walter Super (above) and Walter Regent (below). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Hanski: In what country was the Walter built? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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edinmass Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 1 hour ago, 58L-Y8 said: Hanski: In what country was the Walter built? Steve Czechoslovakia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Elegant, flamboyant...but that chromed bull's eye really disrupts the visual flow of that design... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_a Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 On 6/22/2022 at 2:21 PM, 58L-Y8 said: Here's a better look at that ambulance: Yes, a Peerless from about 1910-12. Looks a little like a '12 Model 29. There were lots of them made into ambulances, hearses, and fire trucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Stolen from the old photo thread on the HAMB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG57Roadmaster Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) On 4/30/2020 at 6:35 PM, John_Mereness said: Al Jolson 1930 The Minerva sport phaeton by Murphy appeared in the April 1930 issue of SOCIAL magazine, published in La Habana. The Castagna Mercedes-Benz was owned by Al Jolson. “This latest model, from one of the most important European factories - Belgium - is one of the highest exponents of modern automobile engineering. Its smooth suspension makes it one of the most comfortable in the world. The almost absolute absence of engine noise has been the standard with which it has achieved worldwide popularity. The bodywork of this model is manufactured by Murphy, of California. (Courtesy of “Minerva Autos Inc.”, N.Y.)” The caption for the Mercedes-Benz… “This formidable German factory introduces us to its famous model "SS", of 250 HP with which they can obtain effortlessly 107 MPH. Bodied by the most notable of Italian designers : Castagna. This extraordinary model is a cabriolet convertible, sport, for 4 passengers. Its speed records on European tracks are currently the most remarkable. (Courtesy of "Mercedes-Benz Cg." Inc., N.Y.)” TG Edited July 3, 2022 by TG57Roadmaster (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Another from the HAMB, Walt is this a Cantrell body? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Think this photo is from England, Happy 4th of July!. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 35 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said: Another from the HAMB, Walt is this a Cantrell body? Source: The Plymouth and DeSoto Story by Don Butler, page 84, photo caption: "Added to the Business Line in April was the Westchester Suburban. The U.S. Body & Forging Co. of Tell City, Ind., builders of the body, listed it as a Semi-Sedan Suburban. Plymouth said it was an informal country car for a wide variety of uses. For the title and license registration, it was called a commercial car or truck. By whatever name, the 4-door vehicle had room for up to eight passengers. the center seat was not as wide as the other, allowing eight inches on the curb side for access aisle to the rear seat. Center and rear seats could be removed to provide cargo space. The forward-mounted spare wheel and safety glass in the windshield and front doors were standard equipment. The detachable weather curtains were also standard. A rear bumper was not available. 309 of these utility cars were built. The body cost $350, chassis with standard 17-inch wheels was $415, adding up to a total of $765. The 113-inch chassis was especially adapted for the Suburban." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Walt G Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 Looks like that motor coach could accommodate the entire membership of a fairly substantial AACA region and then some........................... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG57Roadmaster Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 6 hours ago, 1937hd45 said: Another from the HAMB, Walt is this a Cantrell body? 1937 Dodge Westchester Suburban station wagon at the 2022 AACA Grand National in Virginia Beach, VA. TG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 8 hours ago, 1937hd45 said: Stolen from the old photo thread on the HAMB I worked out how to tell which was which of the early Fords. The Model R has Running boards. The Model N has No running boards. The Model S has Short running boards "The Ford Model S was a composite of the Models N and R. The Model R had used the engine and chassis of the hot-selling Model N, but added running boards, a wider body, and larger wheels. When Ford ran out of Model R bodies and wheels the company put the new running boards on the Model N and called it the Model S." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, MetroPetro said: 1937 Packard twelve - not often seen with no side mounts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG57Roadmaster Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 In the September 25, 1930 Heraldo Deportiva, a Spanish sports magazine, Kissel billed itself as “The American High Quality Car”. TG 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Warrants a better look: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCK81403 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 This is an interesting photo because it (IMHO) appears to be a modern photo presented in black-n-white to look authentically old. The perambulator in the background at the right and the stripped awning appears to be authentic to the time, as does the rocking chair. The male driver parts his hair in the center and that is authentic to the time but no longer a hair fashion for men. Two doors in the building appear to be open for ventilation that suggests warm weather, but the driver and passenger appear to wear outer clothing too warm for the weather conditions (sunny, leaves on bushes and trees). There appears to be a ghostly and undefined form behind his right shoulder. IMHO, the photo is not convincing as to it's real age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 The photo appears to be taken in a metropolitan setting but the street isn't paved so the early 1900's is probably correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Model S? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCK81403 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Hmmm. A Ford expert is needed on this photo. The photo of the car that kicked off this sidebar has front fenders with a small curve. The photo posted of the "Ford S ?" has front fenders flat on top. My small collection of early Fords shows a Model N with curved front fenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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twin6 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Hendersons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 This photograph was in the periodical Motor Italia in September 1939. It is of a Lancia "Astura" and the body is by Pinin Farina. It was from a promotion advertisement by that body builder to advertise its abilities. Obviously painted a single solid conservative color with very minimum plated or polished trim . Can you imagine how flawless the curved panels had to be not to look distorted when light was reflected on them? All the hand labor of skilled craftsman. The coach builder wanted you to see their work, not a flashy in your face color which would be so distracting , yet today we see so many cars painted bright day glo colors because the current owners have no respect for the heritage of what they own. Can't you see this show up at a elite posh "concours" that had a single word name ( or tries to) painted monkey vomit green with Succotash yellow roof color? Yeah I have to much stuff, and much of it is on European cars as well as the domestic American makes. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldford Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, LCK81403 said: Hmmm. A Ford expert is needed on this photo. The photo of the car that kicked off this sidebar has front fenders with a small curve. The photo posted of the "Ford S ?" has front fenders flat on top. My small collection of early Fords shows a Model N with curved front fenders. Top photo: Model R. Second: Model S Frank Edited July 5, 2022 by oldford (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 7 hours ago, LCK81403 said: Hmmm. A Ford expert is needed on this photo. The photo of the car that kicked off this sidebar has front fenders with a small curve. The photo posted of the "Ford S ?" has front fenders flat on top. My small collection of early Fords shows a Model N with curved front fenders. R is for Running boards - S is for Short running boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 7 hours ago, twin6 said: Stutz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 9 hours ago, twin6 said: Hendersons The Henderson car article in The Standard Catalog says the "Henderson family later became famous in the motorcycle field." I actually think there was no connection at all between the Henderson motorcycle, founded in Detroit Michigan in 1911 and the Henderson car business (1912-14 only) of Indianapolis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFindlay Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, nzcarnerd said: The Henderson car article in The Standard Catalog says the "Henderson family later became famous in the motorcycle field. I actually think there was no connection at all between the Henderson motorcycle, founded in Detroit Michigan in 1911 and the Henderson car business (1912-14 only) of Indianapolis. You are correct, there's no connection. The motorcycle Henderson Brothers, Tom & William, were grandsons of Alexander Winton and their father was a Winton President of some sort. One brother trained at Winton, but I'm sure both had much experience and many skills passed down the family line. The Henderson car family was out of St. Louis. Here are two of my favourite Henderson photos, one from 1912, the other from 104 years later. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Walt G said: This photograph was in the periodical Motor Italia in September 1939. It is of a Lancia "Astura" and the body is by Pinin Farina. It was from a promotion advertisement by that body builder to advertise its abilities. Obviously painted a single solid conservative color with very minimum plated or polished trim . Can you imagine how flawless the curved panels had to be not to look distorted when light was reflected on them? All the hand labor of skilled craftsman. The coach builder wanted you to see their work, not a flashy in your face color which would be so distracting , yet today we see so many cars painted bright day glo colors because the current owners have no respect for the heritage of what they own. Can't you see this show up at a elite posh "concours" that had a single word name ( or tries to) painted monkey vomit green with Succotash yellow roof color? Yeah I have to much stuff, and much of it is on European cars as well as the domestic American makes. Walt, this 1936 Lancia with Pinin Firina coachwork won Best in Show back in 2016 at Pebble Beach, solid maroon. Bob 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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