Period images to relieve some of the stress

[nzcarnerd]

5 hours ago, LCK81403 said:

Correct, this American has not known about a '57 Chrysler Royal AP-1.  Interesting photo and thank you for sharing.  Do you have more photos of the car?  From seeing the single view it is difficult to speculate about the styling basis for the car.  Reviewing photos of U.S. Chrysler models dating from 1957 and earlier, the 57 Chrysler Royal AP-1 looks nothing like the U.S. Chrysler.  The front end appears to suggest styling by Holden of England.  The 1961-62 Holden EK model has somewhat of the frontal design of the '57 Chrysler Royal AP-1.

If you read the wiki article about the Chrysler Royal that I linked there you will see the reason why it came about. One positive from it was that being a full chassis car at a time when makers were going to uni-body construction it provided the basis for a generation of ambulances and hearses.

 

Holden was not English, it was Australian. It had connections to GM from as early as the late teens (it became part of GM in 1931), and even though their cars are regarded as 'purely' Australian they always had connections to Detroit (and in later years to GM Europe). The styling influences for EK and its immediate predecessors can be seen in the '55 Chev.

 

Point taken from Walt about the photo being 'out of period'. I don't often look at the post WW2 page.

[nzcarnerd]

5 hours ago, Walt G said:

Great photos of the Australian Chrysler Royal but we are starting to stray a bit beyond the era that this thread is located under - Pre WWII era vehicles.  If it would be possible perhaps someone could start a post WII era period photos of the era thread ? Not a complaint , just trying to continue to stay on focus of the era after 2 years of contributions.  I can well understand and appreciate the enthusiasm to want to contribute but please try to stay with what the intention was when it started. Thank you.

Point taken. There is already a Post WW2 page, it is just that I spend more time on the Pre WW2 one.

[nzcarnerd]

On 4/15/2022 at 5:07 AM, twin6 said:

Marmon?

[A Woolf]

 

1912 American Underslung Type 56 Touring 

[twin6]

NY governor's limo?  Third series twin six with so-called "special" package - drum headlamps and cowl lamps.

[nzcarnerd]

[Terry Harper]

4 hours ago, nzcarnerd said:

Very nice! I have no idea in regards to the truck manufacturer however a close look (it gets a bit grainy) indicated that the load might be a horizontal boring machine produced by the Universal Boring Machine Company of Hudson, Mass. They were founded in 1907 and operated until 1947 when they were purchased by the Bullard Machine Tool Company. (www.VintageMachinery.org)

 

 

What else can we tell from this photo? Well... the boring machine was (or was being) shipped via the Boston & Maine Railroad to Newport Vt. Then by the Canadian Pacific. The last carrier appears to have been the Wabash (C&NW) Whether the purchaser was the same Simmons Company that evolved from a humble cheese box factory to making Beauty Rest mattresses I do not know.

 

Edited April 18, 2022 by Terry Harper (see edit history)

[nzcarnerd]

1 hour ago, Terry Harper said:

Very nice! I have no idea in regards to the truck manufacturer however a close look (it gets a bit grainy) indicated that the load might be a horizontal boring machine produced by the Universal Boring Machine Company of Hudson, Mass. They were founded in 1907 and operated until 1947 when they were purchased by the Bullard Machine Tool Company. (www.VintageMachinery.org)

 

 

What else can we tell from this photo? Well... the boring machine was (or was being) shipped via the Boston & Maine Railroad to Newport Vt. Then by the Canadian Pacific. Unfortunately I can't make out the last carrier. Whether the purchaser was the same Simmons Company that evolved from a humble cheese box factory to making Beauty Rest mattresses I do not know.

 

The truck is a Packard as far as I can tell.  Not sure of the year or model but I reckon it is quite early - circa 1910.

[Terry Harper]

10 minutes ago, nzcarnerd said:

The truck is a Packard as far as I can tell.  Not sure of the year or model but I reckon it is quite early - circa 1910.

Yes, this photo was dated 1915 but I don’t know if that is correct. I have no idea when Packard switched completely to shaft drive.

[nzcarnerd]

On 4/16/2022 at 6:53 AM, twin6 said:

What ever this one is I think it is steam powered.

[1912Staver]

1915 and up Packard are shaft drive. Blaster Mike in New Zealand is working on one of the first . A Model D , one year only truck. Several differences from the more common Model E, shaft drive Packard.

[edinmass]

[edinmass]

[edinmass]

[George K]

4 hours ago, edinmass said:

Don’t know what the last picture car #34 is. But I can tell it’s English by whatever is leaking out under it.

[nzcarnerd]

 

1917 Pathfinder with the V12 Weidely engine?

[nzcarnerd]

 

The location of this one would appear to be France and I thought perhaps it was to do with the Le Mans 24 Hour event but I can't match any numbers with cars in the event around the late 1920s.

[nzcarnerd]

 

Circa 1910 Hotchkiss.

[twin6]

[edinmass]

[HK500]

Continuing on the quest for Fernandez et Darrin  with lots more pictures on this link:

https://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23027&forum=1

[twin6]

A couple express wagons or deliveries. I believe the Packard is a 1914 model 3-48, and the other (supposedly in Maine) is a mystery to me but I'm sure not to others following along.

[BobinVirginia]

4 hours ago, edinmass said:

Ed, what model Packard is that in the last picture? Appears all black and sinister looking. I like it a lot! 

[HK500]

Packard Hubbard Woods dealership in Chicago.  Parabolics and door accent trim, I'm guessing 6th series 1929.  Somebody put a high intensity light behind that chair, made a great shadow of the car on the wall.  And highlights the need for some new carpeting under that table full of brochures! 

Edited April 19, 2022 by HK500 (see edit history)

[George K]

7 hours ago, edinmass said:

Digging that step through roadster with the shark gill louvers. The pullout flip up jump seat is funky like the lack of wind screen. The passengers better hold on to those hats.

[twin6]

16 hours ago, BobinVirginia said:

Ed, what model Packard is that in the last picture? Appears all black and sinister looking. I like it a lot! 

Car on right is a 626 (1929).

[twin6]

[twin6]

[Varun Coutinho]

On 4/19/2022 at 3:21 AM, nzcarnerd said:

 

1917 Pathfinder with the V12 Weidely engine?

1916 Premier Clover-Leaf Roadster

[nzcarnerd]

 

The Mercedes team at the 1914 French Grand Prix. Car #28 (Lautenschlager) was first, car #40 (Wagner) was second and car #39 (Salzer) was third. The other two cars failed to finish. Apparently Belgian driver Theodore Pilette in #41 missed a gear change and over-revved his engine. In 1913 he was fifth in the Indy 500. Both Pilette's son and grandson also became racing drivers. I remember his grandson, also Theodore but known as Teddy, racing in the 1971 and 1972 Tasman Series, which in that era was for Formula 5000 (Formula A in the US). I think he liked to party, though as far as I know he is still with us.. 

[nzcarnerd]

The cars suggest a mid-teens date for the photo. Any idea what the fire truck is?

 

 

[Varun Coutinho]

7 hours ago, twin6 said:

1907 Cleveland 30-35Hp Type H 7-Passenger Touring

[Varun Coutinho]

On 3/31/2022 at 9:43 PM, twin6 said:

I don't see a Moxie label anywhere.

1906 Stoddard-Dayton 30-35Hp Model D Touring

[Captain Harley]

On 4/19/2022 at 6:53 PM, HK500 said:

Packard Hubbard Woods dealership in Chicago.  Parabolics and door accent trim, I'm guessing 6th series 1929.  Somebody put a high intensity light behind that chair, made a great shadow of the car on the wall.  And highlights the need for some new carpeting under that table full of brochures! 

At first I thought that was one of the 634 Speedsters, but didn't speeders come with a non-folding windshield?  Also, notice the hood door.  Optional 3-door hood for the 626 & 633?

 

Capt. Harley😉

[twin6]

I don't believe speedster bodies were fitted up with a golf bag compartment. 

[twin6]

Belated thanks to all who help identify the cars in photos.  I hope Walt's thread keeps on providing stress relief as well as an educational opportunity.  May we never tire of it....

[hook]

2 hours ago, twin6 said:

Belated thanks to all who help identify the cars in photos.  I hope Walt's thread keeps on providing stress relief as well as an educational opportunity.  May we never tire of it....

The girl in the second photo looks rather modern for the times with her jump suit and hair. Compare her to my 17 year old aunt in 1918.

[LCK81403]

Ah, the classic cheesecake pose with a tire.  Ajax tires had the lock on advertising like that.  Not only were the tire ads interesting, grandpa didn't need to avert his eyes from the ad when grandma was around.  Plus the tires were guaranteed for 5,000 miles.  What's not to love?

[keiser31]

3 hours ago, hook said:

The girl in the second photo looks rather modern for the times with her jump suit and hair. Compare her to my 17 year old aunt in 1918.

Cool American underslung!

 

Edited April 21, 2022 by keiser31 (see edit history)

[nzcarnerd]

Camping in Australia - in the 1930s I think. In both cases the cars are several years old. 1923(?) Essex and 1928(?) Packard.

 

First one from Queensland archives

 

Port Lincoln, South Australia. Any thoughts on the model of Packard? This photo may even be post WW2 - really nothing to reference it.