65VerdeGS Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Does anyone have a picture of a '65 Riviera window sticker they can post? I'm wondering what the original window stickers for these cars looked like. What were the dimension of the original window stickers? I've seen a '65 window sticker on the web, which was printed on pre-printed perforated stock, with BUICK in blue ink at the top, with the data about the individual car printed in black lettering, all surrounded by a blue zig-zag type border. Is this correct? I've seen an original 1966 Riviera Gran Sport window sticker. On this sticker, the pre-printed part was in green ink, with the car info and options in black type. Lastly, when the cars were new at the dealership, where were the window stickers placed on the car? Was this a standard placement, or did the dealer decide where to position the sticker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I have every scrap of paperwork on my car including the window sticker. Here is a pic of my original sticker....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68RIVGS Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) There is a member on v8buick who can reproduce your window sticker for any year, or model of Buick. Don't recall his contact info at the moment, but I will find it and post it later ! Edited November 27, 2017 by 68RIVGS (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj5794 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Randy, I believe you are referring to Mike Trom. As you indicated, he is a V-8 Buick member. Mike's e-mail is listed as mrtromm@yahoo.com. He has said that he does reproduction window stickers for 1959 and 1963-1974 Buicks. Mike did two window sticker reproductions for me. First-rate job, easy to deal with and fast turn-around. Jim Vesely BCA # 39477 ROA # 7437 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC1968Riviera Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) Mr. Trom created one for my 68, to include lamination, and it came out awesome! (FYI, they are not blue paper, my image was taken in the shade). Edited November 26, 2017 by NCRiviera (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68RIVGS Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) Thanks, that's him Jim ! The email address I have is mrtromm4@gmail.com He will also laminate your reproduction copy for a fee, and you can order multiple copies for additional cost. I'm sure other ROA/AACA members might be interested. Edited November 26, 2017 by 68RIVGS (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Seafoam65 said: I have every scrap of paperwork on my car including the window sticker. Here is a pic of my original sticker....... The info is kind of hard to read. Is there a chance that you can type out the codes, descriptions, and individual prices as well as the paragraph at the bottom? Thanks, Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dship Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 The sticker actually has a name: "The Monroney sticker (window sticker) is a label required in the United States to be displayed in all new automobiles and includes the listing of certain official information about the car. The window sticker was named after Almer Stillwell "Mike" Monroney, United States Senator from Oklahoma. Monroney sponsored the Automobile Information Disclosure Act of 1958, which mandated the disclosure of equipment and pricing information on new automobiles." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68RIVGS Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Never knew that, . . . thanks for that update Dave ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telriv Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 As I remember, IF correct, the window sticker was placed on the L/Rear qtr. window. IF installed on the L/frt. could get torn off when the vehicle was taken for a ride by a customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivdrivn Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 5 hours ago, telriv said: As I remember, IF correct, the window sticker was placed on the L/Rear qtr. window. IF installed on the L/frt. could get torn off when the vehicle was taken for a ride by a customer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) On 11/25/2017 at 8:41 PM, RivNut said: The info is kind of hard to read. Is there a chance that you can type out the codes, descriptions, and individual prices as well as the paragraph at the bottom? Thanks, Ed Yes Ed, I will type out the info and post it tomorrow. Two things on my sticker differ with the way the car is today......the chrome wheels were added in 1967 and the 4 note horns were removed to make room for an aftermarket cruise control in 1967.The aftermarket cruise from Perfect Circle still works great and doesn't vary one mile an hour. Edited November 27, 2017 by Seafoam65 (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jframe Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 How can I track down who the original selling dealer was? That is one piece of info I don't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) There is no way to determine that if you don't have the original sales invoice or Window sticker or protecto plate. My car was sold new at Ken Nelson Buick in Dixon, Illinois, and that dealer still exists under the same name today, still selling Buicks at the same address they were at in 1965. Edited November 27, 2017 by Seafoam65 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Jframe, did you get an owners manual with your car? If so, on the last page, or maybe next to last, is listed the selling dealer and a code for this dealer, if it was filled out. Do a search on the forum for dealer codes. We discussed this a few years ago. But this only works if you have the original manual and the dealer filled this out properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivdrivn Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 5 hours ago, Seafoam65 said: There is no way to determine that if you don't have the original sales invoice or Window sticker or protecto plate. My car was sold new at Ken Nelson Buick in Dixon, Illinois, and that dealer still exists under the same name today, still selling Buicks at the same address they were at in 1965. Ken Nelson sells just about everything now, but mostly trucks I think. I drive past it every time I work in Dixon. They also host a classic car show each summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 13 hours ago, Rivdrivn said: Ken Nelson sells just about everything now, but mostly trucks I think. I drive past it every time I work in Dixon. They also host a classic car show each summer. My car stayed in Dixon, Illinois until 2011, and the first two owners were dealership employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jframe Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 23 hours ago, steelman said: Jframe, did you get an owners manual with your car? If so, on the last page, or maybe next to last, is listed the selling dealer and a code for this dealer, if it was filled out. Do a search on the forum for dealer codes. We discussed this a few years ago. But this only works if you have the original manual and the dealer filled this out properly. I've got the original owner's manual tucked away with a replacement in the glovebox. The original has nothing like this on the last page, I don't THINK. I'd have to look tonight and make sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65VerdeGS Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 I have the original owners manual for my '65 and there are no notations or stamps in it which identify the dealer that sold the car when new. The selling dealer info does appear stamped in the "Buick 1965 Owner's Protection Plan" booklet, on the second to last page of the booklet. The Protect-o-Plate is glued to the back cover of this booklet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) On 11/25/2017 at 8:41 PM, RivNut said: The info is kind of hard to read. Is there a chance that you can type out the codes, descriptions, and individual prices as well as the paragraph at the bottom? Thanks, Ed As promised, here is what is written on my original 65 Riviera window sticker........ Dealer to whom delivered: Ken Nelson Buick-Pontiac 10-809-6301 Dixon Illinois Make: 1965 Buick Final Assembly Point: Flint, Michigan Vehicle Identification No. 494475H.......... Model: Riviera 2DR Sport Coupe Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price: (Includes Reimbursement for Federal Excise Tax and suggested Dealer Delivery and Handling Charge ) 4,408.00 Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Delivered Prices on Options and Accessories Installed on this Vehicle By the Manufacturer: (Includes Reimbursement for Federal Excise Tax) Body No. 088412 U64 D2 Sonomatic Radio with Electric Antenna 116.42 U80 E6 Rear Seat Speaker 17.20 P26 F1 White Wall Tires 8.45 x 15 43.32 G80 G4 Positive Traction Differential 48.38 C60 I6 Air Conditioner 430.00 A49 J1 Two Custom Front Seat Belts with Retractors 7.53 A01 E1 Soft-Ray Tinted Glass 43.00 U05 N2 Four - Note Horn 27.95 B93 O4 Door Guards 4.09 D33 O5 Remote Control Side View Mirror 11.93 Y54 P1 Carpet Savers and Handy Mats 12.93 D16 X7 Rear Seat Center Armrest 37.63 A50 ## Custom Trim Bucket Seats - Vinyl, And Rocker Panel Molding 166.63 The Following Items, Options or Accessories On Some Other Models, Are Standard Equipment On This .. 1965 Model # Riviera 2Dr. Sport Coupe------------------# Super Turbine Transmission ------- Wheel Covers ------- Electric Clock --- Custom Padded Cushions ----Trunk Light ---- Power Steering --- Power Brakes ----Windshield Washer And 2-Speed Wipers ---- Back Up Lights --- Glare Proof Mirror Parking Brake Signal Light ---- Instrument Panel Safety Pad, Upper ----Bright Exterior Mouldings, Body Side, Belt Reveal, Roof Drip, Front Wheel Opening, And Door Window Frame Destination Charge 79.00 Total Amount: (Does Not Include Dealer Installed Options or Accessories, State or Local Taxes or License Fees) 5454.01 This Label And The Information Thereon Has Been Affixed To This Motor Vehicle By Buick Motor Division, General Motors Corporation, Pursuant To The Requirements of Public Law 85-506 85th Congress, Which Prohibits the Removal or Alteration Of This Label Prior To The Time That Such Automobile Is Delivered To The Actual Custody And Possession Of The Ultimate Purchaser. BUICK MOTOR DIVISION GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION A couple of interesting things to note...... The word moldings is spelled first as moldings, and later on down the line as mouldings! Also note that the beginning of the VIN number is typed on the sticker (494475H) but the last 6 digits are haphazardly and crookedly added with a rubber stamp. Also, I had the prices on the right margin but when I submitted it they magically moved to the left side making it kind of confusing to read. Lastly, note that there is no mention of the tilt wheel being standard equipment on this model in the blurb regarding standard equipment, consequently the tilt wheel is never mentioned anywhere on the sticker. Edited November 29, 2017 by Seafoam65 (see edit history) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Winston, Thanks for taking the time to do this. I know it's time consuming and there's not much of an intrinsic reward for it, but thanks just the same. I wanted to compare the paragraph at the bottom to the paragraph on the bottom of the sticker for my '63. Here's how that same paragraph reads for my 63: THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, OPTIONAL ON SOME OTHER MODELS, ARE STANDARD EQUIPMENT ON THIS 1963 MODEL .................................... RIVIERA 2 DR. SPORT COUPE TURBINE DRIVE TRANSMISSION-RIVIERA WHEEL COVERS-LICENSE PLATE FRAME-ELECTRIC CLOCK-FOAM PADDED BUCKET SEATS, FRONT AND REAR-AUTOMATIC TRUNK LIGHT-DUAL EXHAUST-EASY POWER STEERING-POWER BRAKES-WINDSHIELD WASHER AND 2 SPEED WIPERS BACK-UP LIGHTS- GLARE PROOF MIRROR- PARKING BRAKE SIGNAL LIGHT. It's interesting that apparently that over the two year period of time, that Buick had apparently accepted that some items that were standard no longer needed to be mentioned but others were. I also learned that I have been using the words mold and mould incorrectly for the past umpteen decades. I always that the noun molding was the trim piece and verb mould was the act of shaping something. According to Merriam Webster, mould is the British spelling of the same. Mold is both the noun and verb in American English. Shame on Buick, shame on me. Ed 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC1968Riviera Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, RivNut said: mould is the British spelling of the same. Mold is both the noun and verb in American Engl I am guilty also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65VerdeGS Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 Here in Canada we like the "ou", so I can say: "Cars left outdoors get mouldy moldings!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 hours ago, 65VerdeGS said: Here in Canada we like the "ou", so I can say: "Cars left outdoors get mouldy moldings!" Sounds like you guys are a mix of old English and modern America. Best of both worlds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68RIVGS Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 10 hours ago, RivNut said: Sounds like you guys are a mix of old English and modern America. Best of both worlds? . . . yah got that right Ed !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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