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  1. Beautiful GS you have there Phemsen! Well, these aren't economy cars, that's for sure! In 2014 we drove or '65 Gran Sport from Vancouver BC to Monterey, California about 2,200 miles total to attend the ROA Annual Meet. It was a great trip, but not without some 'events'. On the way down I ran her out of gas along a long stretch of I-5 in Oregon where there are no gas stations for a long stretch. Wife was NOT happy, as I had told her we'd have enough fuel as we passed the "Next gas 72 miles" sign! 🤬. The next day the starter crapped out near Ashland... Ordered a new starter from NAPA, which arrived the next day. The mechanic removed the old starter and when he went to install the new one he discovered it was the WRONG part! NAPA gladly exchanged the starter because the part was wrongly cataloged in their system. But, I had to eat the labor cost to install the starter twice! The rest of the trip went without a hitch. Anyhow, because I had wrongly calculated how far the car would go when I ran out of gas, I decided to track its fuel mileage for the rest of the trip. The very best I got was 16 MPG. Now that is a 'cheater' figure because I deliberately popped the transmission into Neutral on hills, etc. to maximize the mileage. Driving 'normally' (no neutral coasting or other tricks) got me about 12-13 MPG highway, and 10-11 MPG in city driving. Having a 3:42 rear ratio isn't exactly conducive to great mileage. But it sure is fun when you want to go fast! 😃
  2. Thanks Gabriel for posting this. Good to see the first-gen Riviera getting appreciation from enthusiasts in Europe. I'm sure that Riv can be a handful to drive on the narrower streets of Switzerland! The featured car has quite a few less common options, including rear defroster and KX dual-quad engine (rarer than a Gran Sport). The video quotes HP and torque figures for this engine wrongly - these should be 360hp and 465 ft.lb. A couple of curiosities: The stainless steel molding at the top of the windshield is missing from the car in the drone shots. In addition to the misaligned clamshells, the car develops a burned-out tailight towards the end of the video. And, the VIN plate on the driver's door pillar is missing! Look at 4:58 of the video. I'm wondering if the exterior color is the original Turquoise Mist. The featured car looks to be a darker shade of blue to me. In all a pretty car. It surely gets a lot of attention in Europe! Adding to the video's appeal is the lovely Swiss scenery and our engaging commentator Mr. Boersma with his James Bond (Sean Connery) like accent!
  3. Looking good Art! The color of the wheel at the top looks closest to the original. The rest of the wheel looks a bit darker than it should be, but fairly close. Post a pic of the finished product, and once it's installed in your car.
  4. See here for full instructions on how to repair your cracked wood wheel: http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/475.cfm This focuses on repairing the wood-grained steering wheels offered in 1964-67 Corvettes, which were of similar construction to the Buick wood wheel. Note the Buick wheels are a lighter shade of brown compared to the Corvette wheels, so you'll need to adjust the paint mix to achieve the best match. If you take on this project, take before and after pictures and let us know how it goes. Good luck!.
  5. Great info - thanks for confirming the 15" blades are the way to go. The longer ones also scratched the windshield trim on my car and I wondered why Buick would use loo-long blades on their premier car.
  6. Nicely done. Yes, Mr. Phoenix sounds like a carnival barker but does wax poetic about a beautiful car!
  7. Ok, I'll play. Here's a few other things I saw that aren't quite right on this car: Carpeted floor mats wrong Pass seat bottom trim missing? Seats look too puffy Grille top polished vs. painted argent silver Rust on bolt heads and clips for wiring on rad support, rusty A/C piping, rust on valve cover hold down bolts, and rusty horn relay Dirt on PS pump cap Air cleaner lid chrome peeling? Trunk light wire flopping out Remote side mirror inside control estucheon oriented the wrong way (should be diamond not square) Package tray wrong (vinyl vs cardboard) Accessory switches under dash - black paint missing Dash appears recovered in vinyl – too thick? Weather-stripping black blob on driver door opening above striker I'm a bit surprised by the rusty fasteners in the engine bay. Not really in keeping with a fully restored car. I wonder where the car has been stored? It is certainly an impressive car at first glance. If you can afford to pay $135k for the car, these small items could be readily attended for a fraction of that amount.
  8. Some may wish to hear how I redid the door panels on my '65, many, many moons ago. Around 1984 I redid the wood veneer on my '65 Deluxe interior. Back then there were pre-cut NO veneer kits available. First I tried real walnut veneer, but that became a hopeless and frustrating job to cut the veneer accurately, esp. around the console pieces. Another issue was I could not get foil-backed veneer, like GM originally used. This is important because if you just glue the raw wood onto metal it will warp much sooner unless there is an intermediate foil layer behind the veneer. So, I used what I though would be the next best alternative - Formica laminate! Okay, purists are cringing, but the results were outstanding IMO. I found the closest match to the original veneer was a Formica pattern named "Teak". Because this was a custom order, I had to buy an entire 4 x 8 foot sheet of the laminate. This was way more than I needed, but the extra laminate gave me lots of spare material to play with in case I screwed up some of the panels. It wasn't expensive. Cutting and trimming the panels was easy, and this helped especially on the console pieces because I wanted the woodgrain to flow through all 4 pieces that cover the center console. I did the door veneer pinstriping with 1/16" black "fuel proof" pinstriping tape, available at any hobby store. I still have the roll: The pinstriping has held up extremely well, and I've never had to re-do it! The last step was to affix the -R- chrome emblems to the front panels. I then installed the new panels into the stainless steel frames for the 4 door panels, and used contact cement to glue the console pieces down onto the console, after ensuring all traces of old glue had been removed with acetone. Well, 37 years later, this is what it looks like: Although not 'correct', using a high-quality laminate has the advantage of extreme durability and imperviousness to stains and water. This car was my daily driver until the early 90's, so it wasn't like it lived in a garage all the time, protected from sun. Nobody has noticed that the veneer isn't real wood and it still looks as good today as when I put the panels in.
  9. Take a plastic piece with the color you desire to an automotive paint store and/or auto parts jobber that sells car paint and have them mix you a spray can of exact match paint. They use a device that scans your painted piece to match the paint. I did this when wanting to repaint some scuffed dark green pieces in my '65 and the results were extremely good. Note the paint shouldn't be glossy, but a satin finish to match the originals.
  10. Nice hybrid of standard and deluxe interior pieces. Looking good!
  11. Please note Tom Mooney is alive and well. As you may know, Tom is the current ROA technical advisor for '63-65 Rivieras. Leonard Scott and DIck Sweeny were former ROA technical advisors that have both passed away. I met Leonard Scott back in 1984 when I drove my recently acquired Riv from Vancouver to Southern California. Leonard worked at Classic Buicks in Chino, CA, and I had stopped there to inquire about some parts. Leonard saw my car parked outside the shop and came looking for me because he also owned a Verde Green '65 Gran Sport which he had bought brand new in 1965. Leonard was a wealth of information about these cars and we quickly became friends. He told me about the new Riviera Owners Association that had been started by Ray Knott. I joined the ROA as soon as I could, and have been a member ever since.
  12. Thanks everyone who commented on the YouTube video about my '65 Gran Sport. It was fun doing it. About 4 hours of filming got boiled down into the 12 minutes you see in the posted video. The videographer captured my story about the car quite well and I'm glad he edited out anything I may have said that wasn't politically correct! 😅. During the filming I made specific mention of the ROA as the organization that has long supported our interest in Rivieras. I also acknowledged the assistance and expertise of the ROA Technical Advisors who have been of great help to me over the years, including Tom Mooney, and also Leonard Scott, and Dick Sweeny who are no longer with us, regrettably. Alas, those remarks didn't make it into the video. 71GS asked how much I paid for the car back in '83. The seller wanted $2,200, and I wound up getting the car for an even two grand. A rather good buy, in retrospect. Cheers,
  13. I was approached by a local videographer to feature my '65 Gran Sport in the latest episode of the "Center Lane" YouTube Channel series. This feature was filmed in Queen Elizabeth Park, in Vancouver, BC. Enjoy!
  14. Hi Bob, Do you have '65 Buick Color-Trim books for sale?
  15. What's the maximum tire size for a '65 with factory chrome wheels? I see Ed quotes a size for original steel wheels. Would the chrome Formula V wheels take the same maximum tire size?
  16. They are hard to come by... You could make some up from sheet metal, form them to loop around the front seat brackets and paint them to match your interior. I managed to find a set of plastic ones but not the complete set with brackets, etc. I painted them to match and nobody except our experts would tell they weren't the proper pieces. I'll post pictures if you like.
  17. Thanks Tom for confirming the number of GS Rivieras sold for sale in California in 1966. May I ask where you gleaned this bit of statistical data? Ward Yearbook, or Buick factory data? We are fortunate indeed to have you on this board to share your depth of knowledge on these cars!.
  18. Here's a question for you 1966 experts. Every photo of a 425 engine in a '66 Gran Sport has a dimple in the driver's side aluminum valve cover. And, in every case, the A.I.R. pump is MISSING! It just looks weird, the dimple there for no apparent reason, like someone took a hammer to the valve cover. I know the A.I.R. systems were routinely removed back in the day to improve performance and do away with the pump, tubing, and hoses. A.I.R. cars had their ignition timing retarded, so removing the pump and re-tuning the car to 49 state specs would have improved performance and economy. Removing the smog equipment would have been illegal in California, but cars exported from that state could have had it done without consequence. Does anybody have a photo of a '66 (standard or G.S.) with an A.I.R. pump installed? I'm told the dimple was cast into the cover to accommodate the mandatory A.I.R. smog control pump installed in cars sold in California in 1966. I further understand that A.I.R. may have been 'optional' for all other 49 states, although I can't see anyone ticking the option box for this 'feature' if it wasn't required by law. So, my questions: How many '66 Gran Sports were sold new in California? Could you order A.I.R. if you lived outside California? How much did this 'option' cost? Did anyone actually order one with A.I.R. but who did not live in California? Could you order the Super Wildcat 425 (with aluminum valve covers) on ANY '66 Riviera? This was possible in previous years. Was the engine with aluminum "BUICK" valve covers only installed on cars with the A9 Gran Sport option? I know the 2x4 induction was an over the counter option at the beginning of the '66 model year, and later became a factory installed option. Did the dimpled aluminum valve cover get installed in cars intended for sale in states OTHER than California? Or, were Gran Sports sold in the other 49 states delivered with valve covers LACKING the dimple?
  19. Thanks Ed. I'll keep my fingers crossed/
  20. Good... but could we see the finished restored door panel?
  21. Wow - exciting to hear that progress is being made! Thanks Ed for keeping us informed, and for incenting your grandson to undertake this project. Can you post pics of the prototype?
  22. Nice tribute of the original chrome wheels! Dare I ask how much these wheels retail for?
  23. Hi Ed - I think in a recent post of mine Bill posted this photo showing that the plastic insulator sticks up 1" from the top of the fender bezel. The insulator is longer than 1" as it needs to fit down the mast inside the fender bezel. Perhaps someone will send you an original so it can be copied. I'll be one of your grandson's first customers! Let us know how this project evolves.
  24. Swede's post reminded me of the time I was a kid of about 8 when my parents stopped at a southern California restaurant for lunch. It was a sunny day on a family outing as we pulled into a restaurant for lunch. My stepdad parked his brand new '68 Tempest station wagon in the shade less parking lot, leaving our male Doberman "Tauro" in the back. The car was white, but the interior was black. Bad move leaving the dog in the car. As we walked back to the car after lunch we could see bits of white fluff inside the car. You guessed it, the dog decided to chew the inside of the car! He destroyed the back seat, chewed chunks out of the rear door panels, left tooth marks on the front seat backrest, basically ate the driver's headrest, and went after anything soft inside the car. My stepdad was FURIOUS!. I hate to report he gave that dog a good beating that day. My sister and I had to stuff loose foam over the rear seat springs for the ride back home. My stepdad had to order a new interior for his wagon from the Pontiac dealer. They parts counter man told him that was the first time anyone had ordered replacement upholstery for a car that was still brand new. Moral of the story - don't leave your black and tan Doberman in a black vinyl upholstered car when you go for lunch on a hot sunny day!
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