STAYGOLD Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Any ideas as to what this "MW" Hubcap was originally used on? It is 7 1/4" diameter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Woods Mobilette, Martin Wasp, Montgomery Ward, Welch Marquette????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Motor Wheel ??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 What does the other side look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave@Moon Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 In the early part of the 20th century there were a lot of homes converted from using coal stoves to gas or electric. The house I lived in until age 7 (built 1865) had similar appearing discs mounted over the round 5-6" holes in the wall where the old coal stove vent pipe had been. These were commonly sold by many stores, sometimes with one side (meant for the interior) being quite decorative while the other was mundane. My first impression of this disc, given it's size and design, is that it could be one of these sold by Montgomery Wards, who used many similar trademarks during that period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 That's why I was curious what the other side looks like. Also what material is it made of, is it cast or stamped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 It does not look like the old tin stovepipe hole cover to me. It is definitely a hubcap....in the 1929 or so style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I tried looking up every make starting with an M or W in the late 20's through 30's and the closest was Willys but no match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Layden may be correct, but I cannot find an early Motor Wheel logo that matches. I know that other jumbo wheels had their own caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F&J Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I don't know what it is from.If it was a Motor Wheel jumbo type wheel, wouldn't it have more words on it like the other brands, for advertising?I first thought of Montgomery Wards camping trailer or utility trailer, but I can't locate a similar MW logo. the cap looks too fancy for a utility type trailer, but ok for a camping trailer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Henderson Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I'm going with it being from a jumbo MW wheel, ca. early '30's. Whether or not that is correct, the cap, assuming it is in fact a hub cap, is a rare artifact indeed. Jumbo wheel conversions weren't cheap in the depression years. Their use meant more expensive tires had to be obtained, and the change-over wasn't a common one. The logo seems to have faded into obscurity. Motor Wheel Corp. (or its successor?) could be queried to confirm it was theirs. The brand still exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I'm going with it being from a jumbo MW wheel, ca. early '30's. Whether or not that is correct, the cap, assuming it is in fact a hub cap, is a rare artifact indeed. Jumbo wheel conversions weren't cheap in the depression years. Their use meant more expensive tires had to be obtained, and the change-over wasn't a common one. The logo seems to have faded into obscurity. Motor Wheel Corp. (or its successor?) could be queried to confirm it was theirs. The brand still exists.It seems like without a doubt to me that this was a logo from Motor Wheel. Here is a link to the trademark: MW - Reviews & Brand Information - MOTOR WHEEL CORPORATION LANSING, MI - Serial Number: 71556646 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F&J Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 yes, that must be what it is.Good grief, it must be super rare if none of members have ever seen/heard of an MW airwheel, or perhaps a special sized wheel for aftermarket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I have been researching old cars since I was 9 years old and can honestly say that I have never seen one. Now all you need is four more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 When "Motor Wheel was first mentioned I was thinking of Smith motor wheel. A power unit for bikes and "buckboard" type open buggies. I wondered how could this be a hubcap for that? Nice going, Bleach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STAYGOLD Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 Thanks for everyone's information...I would have never figured it out on my own.Here is a picture of the back as was requested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Yep.....made just like a lot of other caps from 1928-1932 with a steel buck and a skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F&J Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Yep.....made just like a lot of other caps from 1928-1932 with a steel buck and a skin...and 7-1/4" diameter, just like the ones I made for my nash. I'd bet they fit the same 6-5/8" hole.I think it is for an adjustable spoke wire wheel, mainly due to the flat shape of the cap. Seems like it would look odd if mounted on a artillery spoked Jumbo type wheel.?I'd like to try making some of those, as I would only need to change out one die plate in my tooling set-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete K. Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 This IS a long shot, but did any '30's aircraft have hubcaps? Maybe Wright-Martin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 This IS a long shot, but did any '30's aircraft have hubcaps? Maybe Wright-Martin?Not sure about caps on airplanes....probably not, but with the "M" being the prominent letter, I would guess it's going to be "MW"...not "WM". Just a thought. And yes, I would also say not for a jumbo style wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Motor Wheel was one of the suppiers of disc wheels for the 1926-7 Pontiac (Baker was the other). Mine has the Motor Wheel discs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 My thought was this. Marmon-Herrington built 4 wheel drive units. I believe they were bought out by or merged with Worthington. Could this possibly be a cap from a short lived Marmon Worthington attempt ? Long shot I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drwatson Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I agree with "Motor Wheel" as ans. Note similarity of the hubcaps "MW" to the logo in the below graphic, which comes from a "Motor Wheel" products catalog. I thought I'd see our hub cap in there but no! Here's catalog link if you'd like a look: http://jholst.net/tires-wheels/MotorWheelCat_1964a.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F&J Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 that is positive on the ID as far as what company. I wonder if the cap is for sale? I would like to copy it and make a set for my car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Here's another Motor Wheel hub cap I found from an eBay listing that ended recently. It's completely different but the logo is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Yes.....that one is for a wood spoked wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Copeland Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 STAYGOLD I realize this is a very old topic but I have a photo of a 1931 model A Ford roadster equipped with "Motor Wheels" with the same hubcaps as yours. These are very rare aftermarket wheels. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Nice update to an old thread! Thank you. Love that old photo of the model A! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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