Guest Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Gale Automobile about 1905. The Gale was manufactured in Galesburg, Knox County, Illinois. The question is have any Gale's survived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Don't think the picture is a Gale. Here is an ad from 1905 for the Gale - it's a different car. Could the photo be an 05 Ford C? Terry 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Henderson Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 17 hours ago, Terry Bond said: Don't think the picture is a Gale. Here is an ad from 1905 for the Gale - it's a different car. Could the photo be an 05 Ford C? Terry The Gale is listed in the Standard Catalog as being produced '05-'07. Georgiano says '04-'10. in any event there is sufficient time spread for minor changes to have occurred. I believe it probably is a Gale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 I think it is a 1-cylinder Cadillac, about 1905. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46 woodie Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Terry, I don't believe that it is a 1905 Ford, C. The grill shell is different and the dashboard is curved along the top on the Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 I think the crank hole location will determine if the OP photo is Cadillac or Ford. Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3macboys Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 23 hours ago, Tinindian said: The question is have any Gale's survived? Looking at the fenders and the passenger side latch for the top opening in the hood they are quite similar, all be it the hood sides and rad are different but is their a Gale still blowing exhaust smoke out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Fenders are typical of many cars of that era and as Bob mentioned, Ford crank holes in the side were positioned differently than for Cadillac. Very little outward difference between Ford and Cad in the first couple of seasons except for that. It's the combination of hood/rad that makes me question the identity of the old car in the original photo supplied. Perhaps there is some original Gale literature out there that will show one and confirm a positive Id on the photo. Wonder if the AACA Library has something in their files? Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Henderson Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 1/26/2020 at 11:27 AM, 1937hd45 said: I think the crank hole location will determine if the OP photo is Cadillac or Ford. Bob Bob, I'm skeptical that it's either Ford or Cadillac. The crank holes of both of them don't seem to be in the same place as what I see on the Gale. The Cadillac's front fenders slope inward while the Gale's are horizontal viewed from the front. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Dave Henderson said: Bob, I'm skeptical that it's either Ford or Cadillac. The crank holes of both of them don't seem to be in the same place as what I see on the Gale. The Cadillac's front fenders slope inward while the Gale's are horizontal viewed from the front. Who knows, maybe it is a Gale photo after all. Just noticed the wheel lugs match the Ford illustration. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Henderson Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 10:37 AM, Terry Bond said: Fenders are typical of many cars of that era and as Bob mentioned, Ford crank holes in the side were positioned differently than for Cadillac. Very little outward difference between Ford and Cad in the first couple of seasons except for that. It's the combination of hood/rad that makes me question the identity of the old car in the original photo supplied. Perhaps there is some original Gale literature out there that will show one and confirm a positive Id on the photo. Wonder if the AACA Library has something in their files? Terry This fuzzy picture is of a 1907 Gale from the Standard Catalog of American Cars. It shows the car having louvers on the hood side, further indicating that the mystery car may be a Gale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustycrusty Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) There was an old photograph posted containing a "Mystery car" on the MTFCA board a while ago- after some spirited back and forth the general consensus was that it was a Gale. That discussion turned up at least one Gale (and possibly two more) still in existence, with pictures! http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/822076/869692.html?1528068680 Edited January 29, 2020 by dustycrusty add photographic examples (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brasscarguy Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 There is a undetermined (1905?)year Gale in a small town in Eastern Washington. A couple of years ago my nephew rebuilt the motor and got it running for relatives of the original owner. It still needs a radiator and lots of small details to make it drivable. Quite an interesting car that no ne even knew it existed. Once again the barns and old buildings are still hiding interesting old cars. just sayin' brasscarguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Yes, the OP supplied photo is starting to look more like a "Gale" and the Model T Forum discussion is most enlightening. Still, I've enlarged that photo to 800% in MS Word and that logo on the side looks more like Oldsmobile the larger it gets. Unfortunately, it gets pretty blurry in the process. That said, it was not uncommon to have car owners actually put their own monograms on cars. Some of my early catalogs show decals that could be printed and purchased just for that purpose. So, what looks like the Oldsmobile, could actually be either a Gale logo, or the owner's personal monogram. I'll see if somewhere I can uncover a Gale logo for comparison. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murrayjohn Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Terry, you asked if I knew about a Gale logo or emblem. I have never seen a Gale emblem and I doubt there was one, apart from the possibility of a decal on the side. I also can't help with a logo, maybe someone has a brochure that shows one. I attach a photo of a brass script for a Gale. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docswanny Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 I am one the grandsons of DW Cook. My mom told me about her dad and how close he came to mass producing the Gale automobile. He wanted to, but his partners did not go for it! Henry Ford copied some of his ideas...and the rest is history! I only wish that I would have had one of the Gale mobiles passed down to me! Oh well... Thomas R Swanson (Cook) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLynskey Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 From the Galesburg Public Library Gale automobile - Galesburg Public Library - Upper Mississippi Valley Digital Image Archive (umvphotoarchive.org) Don 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonDup Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) Don Krull from Galesburg restored a Gale several years ago. The restoration was beautiful Don passed in the fall of 2021 and his sons did not have any interest in his auto collection. The cars were consigned to the Sullivan Auctioneers Collector Car Auction in Hamilton, Il. that was held on Feb 7, 2022. I was interested in the Gale and went to the auction site to look it over. The workmanship on the restoration was excellent, and the car had some supporting literature with it. The only flaw that I really noticed was that the original Gale body was supposed to be able to be tipped up for easier motor service. I could not see how the body on the current restoration could be tipped for service. I put in an early bid on the car, but bidding got crazy before the final sale. The car sold for slightly less than $50k. It is currently in the hands of an antique car dealer in Davenport, Iowa. Ron Dupree Edited January 17, 2023 by RonDup (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ehook Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 My dad actually has a Gail. It’s all original and has sat for at least 50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) I noticed, from an internet ad, that there is currently a 1904 Gale Model B for sale at a dealer in Davenport, Iowa: Klemme Klassic Kars, phone (563) 334-1536. https://www.carsforsale.com/used-car-dealer/klemme-klassic-kars-davenport-ia-d169886/inventory/details/92046609 Their asking price is $69,900. For the forum record, here is a picture from their listing: Edited October 14, 2023 by John_S_in_Penna (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonDup Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 That is the car that Don Krull had restored that I referred to above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 On 1/17/2023 at 2:28 PM, RonDup said: Don Krull from Galesburg restored a Gale several years ago.... Don passed in the fall of 2021 and his sons did not have any interest in his auto collection. The cars were consigned to the Sullivan Auctioneers Collector Car Auction in Hamilton, Il. that was held on Feb 7, 2022.... The car sold for slightly less than $50k. I wonder what happened in the year between 2022 and 2023. Did the Gale not find an appreciative home with a family to enjoy it? I wonder whether Mr. Krull (estate) made any money on the car from years of ownership and enjoyment. It sounds like the dealer is trying to make $20,000: 18 hours ago, John_S_in_Penna said: Their asking price is $69,900. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonDup Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 The Gale was one of several cars that the dealer has purchased strictly for resale. Another car they have is a Sears that I was interested in. I believe it sold at the auction for about $22k and is listed on the dealers web site for $34k. I doubt that Don's estate made any money on the car. I didn't see it when he first got the Gale, but I know that he virtually remanufactured the car and did not drive it a lot after he was done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gariepy Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/14/2023 at 2:39 AM, Ehook said: My dad actually has a Gail. It’s all original and has sat for at least 50 years. Photos? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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